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Severus Smith wrote:

There needs to be something that separates FW from Public battles. I posted some ideas here.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109295&find=unread

The 3 main points from my post (LP and standings aside):

1. Have us fight for planets in FW, not Districts. (So at the end of one match we automatically enter another match for a district on that planet - until it is lost, won, or we quit). This allows for a sense of accomplishment, takes time, and makes FW stand out more from Public matches when you see the planet you've been fighting for over the last 4 hours flip colors on the sov map.

2. There needs to be levels of FW contracts. Low level contracts for people new to FW to test the water with (on backwater planets no one really cares about). And high level contracts for key contested planets (where winning the planet means sov flips, or other big repercussions).

3. There needs to be "gear collateral" to ensure a certain level of gear is used. Summed up, you pay 100,000 ISK at the beginning of the match as collateral. At the end of the match your gear / vehicle losses are computed and if they are more than the 100,000 ISK collateral you get it all back. If they are less, you get the difference. (It ensures you lose at least 100,000 ISK in the match). This makes people use the correct gear. Would you rather lose 100K to the ether or in gear? You're going to lose it either way, might as well run a few Proto mods to make your fit more competitive.

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Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 463	Posted - 2013.09.23 17:25:00 - [31] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: FoxFour wants mercs to stay free to join either side to make it easy to join your friends. A valid concern. However, this breaks the commitment aspect and allows joining to help one side lose. Join PC or public matches for that. Faction warfare should be about joining a faction. I vote for commitment. I think we have a design that is getting closer and closer to satisfying both sides. Hopefully I will have something to post later this week. I would rather have an LP system put in place to have some actual incentive, but for the meantime, an increase oin SP for sticking to a particular side would be equally useful until such a system for LP or reputation takes place.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 464	Posted - 2013.09.23 17:29:00 - [32] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: So much anger in this thread; I love getting people riled up. It's as if they think the EVE lore actually has anything to do with this game. It's as if they think that your calling two of the empires in this game tyrannical should be accurate and make sense! And that the EVE lore, consequently, has anything to do with this game! Crazy, huh? Keep biting.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2240	Posted - 2013.09.23 17:47:00 - [33] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: So much anger in this thread; I love getting people riled up. It's as if they think the EVE lore actually has anything to do with this game. It's as if they think that your calling two of the empires in this game tyrannical should be accurate and make sense! And that the EVE lore, consequently, has anything to do with this game! Crazy, huh? Keep biting. It would still be nice if CCP gave people a reason not to remain ignorant.
Minstrum Ridcully KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 21	Posted - 2013.09.23 18:06:00 - [34] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: True Adamance wrote: But yeah I would say the Gallente are the most oppressive society behind closed doors. Yeah, all that voting, fine food, and education... I'm repressed right up the wazoo. Reg: All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return? Xerxes: The aqueduct. Reg: Oh yeah, yeah they gave us that. Yeah. That's true. Masked Activist: And the sanitation! Stan: Oh yes... sanitation, Reg, you remember what the city used to be like. Reg: All right, I'll grant you that the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done... Matthias: And the roads... Reg: (sharply) Well yes obviously the roads... the roads go without saying. But apart from the aqueduct, the sanitation and the roads... Another Masked Activist: Irrigation... Other Masked Voices: Medicine... Education... Health... Reg: Yes... all right, fair enough... Activist Near Front: And the wine... Omnes: Oh yes! True! Francis: Yeah. That's something we'd really miss if the Romans left, Reg. Masked Activist at Back: Public baths! Stan: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now. Francis: Yes, they certainly know how to keep order... (general nodding)... let's face it, they're the only ones who could in a place like this. (more general murmurs of agreement) Reg: All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us? Xerxes: Brought peace! Reg: (very angry, he's not having a good meeting at all) What!? Oh... (scornfully) Peace, yes... shut up!
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 1738	Posted - 2013.09.23 18:31:00 - [35] - Quote Minmatar scum... gonna teach them how to shine my shoes
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 305	Posted - 2013.09.23 18:41:00 - [36] - Quote As an EVE space capsuleer, I was born into Caldari. As a DUST mercenary , I was also born into Caldari. (When I started we had no choice) But MY SOUL IS MINMATAR! WINMATARRRRR! (Though Amarr has the best architecture by far, that golden quarters they get looks awesome. I cant wait to get some Amarr themed buildings and maps!!)
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2186	Posted - 2013.09.23 19:49:00 - [37] - Quote First Prophet wrote: America is still the best. Just to put this out there, another big difference between America and the Gallente Federation is America is not a democracy. I'll wait a second as everyone gasps . America is a republic. The difference being simple, we do not have a massive voting system where everyone has equal saying as everyone else but rather we are bunched up into 50 states which represent us. That said, America isn't exactly the same style of republic as the Minmatar Republic either, as I do not believe the Minmatar have a central head figure like a president.
Severus Smith Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 359	Posted - 2013.09.23 19:51:00 - [38] - Quote There needs to be something that separates FW from Public battles. I posted some ideas here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109295&find=unread The 3 main points from my post (LP and standings aside): 1. Have us fight for planets in FW, not Districts. (So at the end of one match we automatically enter another match for a district on that planet - until it is lost, won, or we quit). This allows for a sense of accomplishment, takes time, and makes FW stand out more from Public matches when you see the planet you've been fighting for over the last 4 hours flip colors on the sov map. 2. There needs to be levels of FW contracts. Low level contracts for people new to FW to test the water with (on backwater planets no one really cares about). And high level contracts for key contested planets (where winning the planet means sov flips, or other big repercussions). 3. There needs to be "gear collateral" to ensure a certain level of gear is used. Summed up, you pay 100,000 ISK at the beginning of the match as collateral. At the end of the match your gear / vehicle losses are computed and if they are more than the 100,000 ISK collateral you get it all back. If they are less, you get the difference. (It ensures you lose at least 100,000 ISK in the match). This makes people use the correct gear. Would you rather lose 100K to the ether or in gear? You're going to lose it either way, might as well run a few Proto mods to make your fit more competitive.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 799	Posted - 2013.09.23 21:39:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: lose for amarr Likewise. Whenever I go for either tyrannical empire (Amarr or Caldari), I usually order some food and sit back in my chair watching something on my computer. Makes getting SP easy, and AFKing a worthwhile battle asset (and you never have to pull the trigger even once). You seriously don't know anything about eve lore do you? Assuming the Caldari or the Amarr are tyrannical is somewhat ignorant of what they really are. What do you expect from people who go AFK in FW? Can't wait for FF being enabled there.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 469	Posted - 2013.09.23 22:45:00 - [40] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: So much anger in this thread; I love getting people riled up. It's as if they think the EVE lore actually has anything to do with this game. It's as if they think that your calling two of the empires in this game tyrannical should be accurate and make sense! And that the EVE lore, consequently, has anything to do with this game! Crazy, huh? Keep biting. It would still be nice if CCP gave people a reason not to remain ignorant. I really wish there was content in the game to entertain me, so I wouldn't have to get it on the forums.

Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 564	Posted - 2013.09.23 22:46:00 - [41] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: There needs to be something that separates FW from Public battles. I posted some ideas here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109295&find=unread The 3 main points from my post (LP and standings aside): 1. Have us fight for planets in FW, not Districts. (So at the end of one match we automatically enter another match for a district on that planet - until it is lost, won, or we quit). This allows for a sense of accomplishment, takes time, and makes FW stand out more from Public matches when you see the planet you've been fighting for over the last 4 hours flip colors on the sov map. 2. There needs to be levels of FW contracts. Low level contracts for people new to FW to test the water with (on backwater planets no one really cares about). And high level contracts for key contested planets (where winning the planet means sov flips, or other big repercussions). 3. There needs to be "gear collateral" to ensure a certain level of gear is used. Summed up, you pay 100,000 ISK at the beginning of the match as collateral. At the end of the match your gear / vehicle losses are computed and if they are more than the 100,000 ISK collateral you get it all back. If they are less, you get the difference. (It ensures you lose at least 100,000 ISK in the match). This makes people use the correct gear. Would you rather lose 100K to the ether or in gear? You're going to lose it either way, might as well run a few Proto mods to make your fit more competitive. Wow, trolling aside, you have some pretty nice ideas there. +1 mate
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 296	Posted - 2013.10.06 06:37:00 - [42] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Chumlee Chummington Red Star. EoN. 11	Posted - 2013.10.06 06:59:00 - [43] - Quote Epicsting pro wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE&feature=youtube_gdata_player You've been busy tonight epicsting.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1023	Posted - 2013.10.06 15:39:00 - [44] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Crash Monster wrote: True Adamance wrote: But yeah I would say the Gallente are the most oppressive society behind closed doors. Yeah, all that voting, fine food, and education... I'm repressed right up the wazoo. Hmm free elections... The Federation is corrupt don't be fooled by a facade of democracy, head out to 0.0 that's where freedom is. 0.0 can offer only serfdom i'm afraid. Things will remain that way until 0.0 becomes a real frontier, where a pilot or a merc can drop off the map completely. Or a place where a group of like-minded entrepreneurs can set up a hideout from which to advance their cause. It's one of the biggest failings of New Eden, tbh: no real frontier.
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 427	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:28:00 - [45] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: There needs to be something that separates FW from Public battles. I posted some ideas here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109295&find=unread The 3 main points from my post (LP and standings aside): 1. Have us fight for planets in FW, not Districts. (So at the end of one match we automatically enter another match for a district on that planet - until it is lost, won, or we quit). This allows for a sense of accomplishment, takes time, and makes FW stand out more from Public matches when you see the planet you've been fighting for over the last 4 hours flip colors on the sov map. 2. There needs to be levels of FW contracts. Low level contracts for people new to FW to test the water with (on backwater planets no one really cares about). And high level contracts for key contested planets (where winning the planet means sov flips, or other big repercussions). 3. There needs to be "gear collateral" to ensure a certain level of gear is used. Summed up, you pay 100,000 ISK at the beginning of the match as collateral. At the end of the match your gear / vehicle losses are computed and if they are more than the 100,000 ISK collateral you get it all back. If they are less, you get the difference. (It ensures you lose at least 100,000 ISK in the match). This makes people use the correct gear. Would you rather lose 100K to the ether or in gear? You're going to lose it either way, might as well run a few Proto mods to make your fit more competitive. I agree with this 100% +1


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