As a Gallente scout, I'd rather keep the 2nd high slot. It doesn't make sense that I can use 2 damage mods on a medium suit and only one on a proto.

I agree that I do find it inconsistent with the pattern. Gallente suits really aren't meant to deal maximum damage for a scout class as that is the job for the Minmatar suits in the same class. Gallente Scouts are best used for one of two things.

1. An all-seeing-eye as the extra low slots are suppose to give scouts the ability to fit the most amount of range amplifiers for their passive scanners. The built-in passive scanners of the suits, when fully trained up alongside precision enhancement skill plus the bonus from the suit, can potentially see up to 99 meters through man-made structures (but not through rocks).

2. A stealthy infiltrator as the extra low slots can also accommodate the most amount of profile dampeners for the class thus allowing the scout to evade even the most powerful active/passive scanners in the game.

If you want maximum damage, especially for sidearms and melee, the Minmatar scout is the way to go. But for light weapons, it's best to stick with the other classes.

[BUG/BY DESIGN] Gallante Light basic and scout frames slot progression - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1237271#post1237271
Status: By design

I wish they would fix this but they said recently it's like this by design, so I can't see them doing it. I said it in the scout thread earlier, that I love having 2 slots for damage mods but with the lack of CPU I have to use a CPU mod and effectively am left with just 1 low slot. Make it 2 lo 3 hi and proto 2 hi 4 lo and it works great for all concerned. Either that or give me at least enough CPU to not need a CPU mod and lvl 5 electronics.

Order of Suits. with Module Layout

Militia Gallente Light Frame
1 High
1 Low

Scout G - 1
1 High
2 Lows

Scout G/1 Series
2 High <--Problem
2 Lows

Scout g.k0
1 High
4 Lows

Do you see the issue here? Scout G/1 is a completely incompatible direction. It adds a high, when the pattern suggests a 3rd low slot. This is also an incompatible flavor. It's a gallente suit so the whole is oriented for more Low Slots than High Slots, but this is too balanced, it's like a minmatar but slower and more Armor heavy. There are actually a wider variety of low slots to fit compared to high slots, so adding high slots to the G/1 series isn't adding very much spice at all, especially when 2/3 the scanning modules are low slot oriented and so are armor modules (which the Gallente tank with).

If I wanted a balanced slot configuration I would have headed for the Minmatar scout but many of us Gallente Scouts would prefer it if the G/1 Series was consistent with the pattern and was Low Slot oriented.

Suggestion:
3 Lows
1 High

It's consistent & useful.

I would have to say i would also like it if they made the G/1 have 3 low but thinking the reason cpp did it the way they did is for one really good reason.

If the G/1 had 3 low slots then an advanced suit could be invisible to proto level scanners. only a proto suit or proto scanner would be able to be used to detect an advanced suit. that would not be balanced.

If this game was about being fair Forge Guns would not register on infantry. I can see how that does stop the 3L/1H, but ......it seems like a stretch of an excuse. One piece of equipment is holding back the G/1 series?

I foresee removing a module from a Suit, to be a big no-no, as it will break a lot of fits.

I foresee removing a module from a Suit, to be a big no-no, as it will break a lot of fits.

Why not add another high to the Proto scout?

CCP nerfed Callogi CPU

The point is that the G/1 is too alien, it breaks the sequence and flavor of gallente scouts. On top of that, it makes the shift from ADV to Proto all too messed up. You are gaining 2 low slots and losing a high. That's just weird. It would be better if you never lost anything and gained modules in a chronological order. The minmatar scouts don't have this problem, their suits move in a logical orderly fashion.

Also, I don't care if it breaks my fits.

Pretty much. The Gallente Suit was designed especially for scanning it would seem. The high slot is left open for a Precision enhancer probably (in design, not in practice). This also opens up better armor tanking, to follow Gallente idealism. Basically the G/1 series is barely better than the G -1 because the second high slot really detracts from suit.

Hmm maybe this was the original intention for the gall scout, but CCP removes this role nearly completely with 1.4. The removal of Teamview destroyed th scout role of the gal scout.

On a sidenote any suit is a better scout just by using an active scanner, and those who use tha sctive scanners will a) light up the enemies for the team and b) with 1.5 they will get WP for scanning. You get all of this for 932760 SP and one piece of equipment.

The Gal scout would need 4352880 SP in Skills an 4 Complexx Range Amplifiers and one Precision Enhancer and still with all this SP investment and equipment the gal scout is only able to barely beat and advanced scanner, there is no way the gal scout can beat the Protoscanner.

Thats quite an investment to be barely better than an Advanced scanner whithout the option to get WP for scanning and the ability to light up people for your team.

Of course this is would be only a therotical build thats pretty much useless on the battlefield.

The same is true for stealth in theory the gal scout can beat any scanner in profile dampening but the suit that can do this can't take any real advantage as you sacrifice nearly all of your low slots and lots of CPU. There is not much room to fit anything useful beside your stealth specialisation...

1 proto scanner at 15
a proto logi ck.0 with 5 complex precision 13.27
g/1 series scout with 3 complex dampeners 12.81

add in cloak or adaptive camouflage and an advanced scout with 3 lows could be invisible to everything.

Can you verify that Precision Enhancers apply to Active Scanners

I think that was referring to passive scan, not active. If precision enhancers affected scanners, I'm pretty sure 5 complex precision enhancers would get a 15db scanner quite a bit lower than 13.27.

I wouldn't mind going with a 2H/4L for Gallente proto, provided that the Minmitar suit also got an additional slot added to it. I would still favor a 1H/3L for the ADV suit, since they proto suits would provide a nice bump and really be special and justify their additional cost over the advanced suits.

I'm not sure why scouts only get 5 H/L slots in total while Assaults get 7. Scouts no longer have a passive scan range bonus like they did in Chromosome, the speed bonus is negligible and as it turns out, not useful give the lagging hitbox, better hit detection and auto-aim.

So - what 'benefits' do we have over medium suits to justify being docked 2 slots relative to their suits? I think we should have 6, and still a small buff to scan range and speed.

As a gal proto, I do not want another high mod, what are you gonna do with that? It's all about the low slots. That's where the scout mods are at. Damn it CCP HERE US OUT. We are in the pits.

As a gal proto, I do not want another high mod, what are you gonna do with that? It's all about the low slots. That's where the scout mods are at. Damn it CCP HERE US OUT. We are in the pits.

Shield, I know, blasphemy. I prefer the extra health with no speed drawback. Lets me save my low slots for the fiun stuff, as opposed to Ferroscale Plates. Or Precision Enhancer, make Gallente Scouts masters of E-War (Soon tm).

But the suits are so not built for shield extenders. I can tell because my CPU/PG goes in the hole.

But the suits are so not built for shield extenders. I can tell because my CPU/PG goes in the hole.

I would have to say i would also like it if they made the G/1 have 3 low but thinking the reason cpp did it the way they did is for one really good reason.

If the G/1 had 3 low slots then an advanced suit could be invisible to proto level scanners. only a proto suit or proto scanner would be able to be used to detect an advanced suit. that would not be balanced.

I, for one, appreciate the 2nd complex shield extender I can slap on the G/1.

I, for one, appreciate the 2nd complex shield extender I can slap on the G/1.

2/3 layout is not pushing it.

Here's the plan. I will lead the revolution for at least a 1H/3L scenario. Once in place, the people who were "not part of the revolution" will complain that they miss the second high slot but admit the 3rd low slot is a good addition to the G/1. Hopefully they will succeed and lead the scouts to 6 total slots.

go use a minmatar suit then.

Go be a Caldari elsewhere :P

I would prefer a third low slot because of the variety of low slots and the sense it makes.

But the suits are so not built for shield extenders. I can tell because my CPU/PG goes in the hole.

True, the Adv are limited. But I am able to fit my Proto with 100% Proto weapons and modules (with militia grenades and equipment).

A gal scout makes a suggestion thread about a new G/1 lay out and no one bats an eye...



...another gal scout comments that he appreciates the extra high slot and everybody loses their minds!!

It is your mistake to assume that by my 'appreciating' the 2nd shield extender, means I 'prefer' a 2nd high slot over a 3rd low slot. My appreciating what is currently there doesn't imply a preference for either but merely a statement offered regarding current state of the G/1. Appreciate =/= like; especially in this particular case wherein you have no choice since there is ,in fact, no third low slot.

Lawyered.