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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.22 15:09:00 -
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Its technically an exploit, more of a design overlook, 1 person should not be able to deploy so much equipment on the field simultaneously.
Equipment is designed to help complete an objective, its not to be spammed, we need more equipment to give us more variety and bonuses, so people consider more than just nanohives. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
608
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Posted - 2013.09.22 15:19:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its technically an exploit, more of a design overlook, 1 person should not be able to deploy so much equipment on the field simultaneously.
Equipment is designed to help complete an objective, its not to be spammed, we need more equipment to give us more variety and bonuses, so people consider more than just nanohives. I respectfully disagree. If CCP determines that it is an exploit, I will live with that decision, but given this mechanic has been in place for well over a year, this would mark a shift in the dev's approach. I watch with interest to see CCP's response.
Sorry I meant to say not an exploit!
Its an oversight I feel CCP should fix!
There is no problem with restocking equipment, I personally feel you shouldn't have to switch suits to do so. But being to be able to "over" spam uplinks, hives is potentially a problem!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
608
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Posted - 2013.09.22 15:38:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its technically an exploit, more of a design overlook, 1 person should not be able to deploy so much equipment on the field simultaneously.
Equipment is designed to help complete an objective, its not to be spammed, we need more equipment to give us more variety and bonuses, so people consider more than just nanohives. I respectfully disagree. If CCP determines that it is an exploit, I will live with that decision, but given this mechanic has been in place for well over a year, this would mark a shift in the dev's approach. I watch with interest to see CCP's response. Sorry I meant to say not an exploit! Its an oversight I feel CCP should fix! There is no problem with restocking equipment, I personally feel you shouldn't have to switch suits to do so. But being to be able to "over" spam uplinks, hives is potentially a problem!! Monkey - I have to say, I love your approach on the forums. You seldom troll. When you disagree you do so respectfully. Thank you for that. One day, we must squad together!
Something I learnt as a corporal in cadets, people are always more responsive when you are positive, besides I ALWAYS love a good, well balanced discussion. So much more fun than your mum jokes!!
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
609
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:12:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its technically an exploit, more of a design overlook, 1 person should not be able to deploy so much equipment on the field simultaneously.
Equipment is designed to help complete an objective, its not to be spammed, we need more equipment to give us more variety and bonuses, so people consider more than just nanohives. I respectfully disagree. If CCP determines that it is an exploit, I will live with that decision, but given this mechanic has been in place for well over a year, this would mark a shift in the dev's approach. I watch with interest to see CCP's response. Sorry I meant to say not an exploit! Its an oversight I feel CCP should fix! There is no problem with restocking equipment, I personally feel you shouldn't have to switch suits to do so. But being to be able to "over" spam uplinks, hives is potentially a problem!! There is no "'over' spam" of equipment because, like others have said, you can only deploy as many as the description says you can. At max you can deploy 3 at a time, and that is with Proto. Yes, you can deploy as many as 6, but this is more strategy than an "exploit". For example: I was in a Domination match on Line Harvest, and I dropped 3 uplinks on the pipes. A little later, my team took the objective thanks to a couple of Orbitals and some good players. Later we did lose, but we would have never taken it without people spawning so close to the objective.
We are getting confused, let's say you deploy 3 from one set, and get resupplied, nothing wrong with that!!
But if you deploy three change to suit where you are running a different suit to deploy another 3, rinse and repeat until you deploy upwards of 10-20 in more extreme cases!
This is my problem, you can do this on any suit with an eq slot, so im not blaming logis, but if a logi wants to deploy more than 1 uplink type he should require more than 1 slot to do so.
However I have heard rumours that ccp will change it so if you change suits the equipment will shortcircuit.. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
629
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:25:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I would try to get my WP by killing stuff, but people don't take kindly to logis getting kills on here. Now it seems like they don't want use to use equipment either. Maybe I should go sit on the redline every battle.
Nothing wrong with logis my only problem is when 1 character can have over 20 uplinks deployed on the feild by himself, then imagine 5 people doing that. You end upwith a really crappy game of whack-a-mole.
However I believe uplinks should be more of scout tech than logi tech, we should rely on vehicular transport the majority of the time! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.24 07:17:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:It seems to me that what I'm hearing most of the hate about is uplink spam, and not so much hive spamming. Is that correct? I gotta say it's annoying not being able to see the board sometimes due to something that seems to have no real purpose, but as one of those who are glad to hear the depot is "working as intended", I just move along as I always did. Thanking god that i don't have to march across a map to get those hives back up.
Since I will regularly drop 12-15 hives on a map at once (in strategic places, for specific on-field purposes, trust me they all go somewhere special), I have to say I'm not for any limitation. I've had 2 minutes of setup ruined by 2-3 well placed flux nades, so it isn't like these are hard to eliminate. However, they can be a massive boost to anyone who has been on a team with me, if they take advantage of them.
So is that the reason for the hate on uplink spam? That since every hive is essentially the same, you don't necessarily "need" that many up at once in a concentrated effort? If so I can sympathize, but just not agree. Leave it alone and wait until everyone is rolling in WP for blowing up my 30k nanohives along with their <1k uplinks. That should help even out the WP distribution to keep those who like to pewpewpew from feeling they have been "cheated" out of some imaginary benefit, even tho anything done by a logi can't do anything but help them succeed (short of dropping a hive/link on a concealed sniper).
Its mostly uplink spam that the problem is about. By no means are we hurting on logi players on this one. Its just if 1 guy can have 20 uplinks tethered to him, he isn't necessarily a logi.
Now imagine 4 other guys doing the same thing, it becomes whack-a-mole, and not particularly fun! However I have heard rumors that if you change to suit that doesn't have your currently deployed equipment, then the equipment blows up!
Which is fine because a logi can still dump half a dozen uplinks, but he now can't leave the uplink suit if he wants his team to reap the benefits, reduces spam, makes them more tactical again, now all need is the ability to jump to an uplink without dying. |
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