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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3545
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Continuing from Aero's point. They also end up in a political system that means even should they want to exercise their rights to freedom and liberty and leave the Federation they are not able to because of the threat of military response.
I suppose you are referring to the Caldari here.
You are aware they razed one of our cities and killed every single person there, yes? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2340
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:28:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Continuing from Aero's point. They also end up in a political system that means even should they want to exercise their rights to freedom and liberty and leave the Federation they are not able to because of the threat of military response.
I suppose you are referring to the Caldari here. You are aware they razed one of our cities and killed every single person there, yes?
A terrorist wing, not affiliated with the State itself. I am also aware that there was significant destruction of Caldari Prime, and many casualties when the Gallente took the planet. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3545
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Continuing from Aero's point. They also end up in a political system that means even should they want to exercise their rights to freedom and liberty and leave the Federation they are not able to because of the threat of military response.
I suppose you are referring to the Caldari here. You are aware they razed one of our cities and killed every single person there, yes? A terrorist wing, not affiliated with the State itself. I am also aware that there was significant destruction of Caldari Prime, and many casualties when the Gallente took the planet.
And yet that was the catalyst, not the mere act of leaving the Federation. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2344
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Continuing from Aero's point. They also end up in a political system that means even should they want to exercise their rights to freedom and liberty and leave the Federation they are not able to because of the threat of military response.
I suppose you are referring to the Caldari here. You are aware they razed one of our cities and killed every single person there, yes? A terrorist wing, not affiliated with the State itself. I am also aware that there was significant destruction of Caldari Prime, and many casualties when the Gallente took the planet. And yet that was the catalyst, not the mere act of leaving the Federation.
Yet you still would not let people who did not instigate the attack, nor had anything in common but race, go? |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3553
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Posted - 2013.09.27 22:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
And yet that was the catalyst, not the mere act of leaving the Federation.
Yet you still would not let people who did not instigate the attack, nor had anything in common but race, go?
We let them go just fine, until they killed our people.
Do you seriously think any empire would simply stand by and do nothing when their cities were being razed?
And you are hardly one to point the finger of blame for unjust orbital bombardments. I seem to recall you murdered almost an entire people simply for adapting your religion slightly to their own ways. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2344
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Posted - 2013.09.27 22:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
And yet that was the catalyst, not the mere act of leaving the Federation.
Yet you still would not let people who did not instigate the attack, nor had anything in common but race, go? We let them go just fine, until they killed our people. Do you seriously think any empire would simply stand by and do nothing when their cities were being razed? And you are hardly one to point the finger of blame for unjust orbital bombardments. I seem to recall you murdered almost an entire people simply for adapting your religion slightly to their own ways.
We were not discussing my religion, though I won't deny it, God's word is not adaptable, it is a truth. I am much saddened that we were forced to take such a destructive course, but God's mercy is limited.
We were discussing how the Federations reluctance to let the Caldari see to their own affairs, and their seemingly lack of contriteness for killing millions of Caldari on their home world. Please do not go off topic. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3556
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
And yet that was the catalyst, not the mere act of leaving the Federation.
Yet you still would not let people who did not instigate the attack, nor had anything in common but race, go? We let them go just fine, until they killed our people. Do you seriously think any empire would simply stand by and do nothing when their cities were being razed? And you are hardly one to point the finger of blame for unjust orbital bombardments. I seem to recall you murdered almost an entire people simply for adapting your religion slightly to their own ways. We were not discussing my religion, though I won't deny it, God's word is not adaptable, it is a truth. I am much saddened that we were forced to take such a destructive course, but God's mercy is limited. We were discussing how the Federations reluctance to let the Caldari see to their own affairs, and their seemingly lack of contriteness for killing millions of Caldari on their home world. Please do not go off topic.
Please do not go off topic? You were the one who first strayed from the initial topic of the Minmatar to start bashing on the Federation.
I would point out that it was one of your own people who allowed, even encouraged and suggested the Minmatar incorporate your religion into their ways. It's also rather ironic that you should say we're reluctant to allow others to see to their own affairs when you enslave so many.
Of course we're not contrite for killing Caldari. They killed our people first. You can of course claim it's a terrorist group, but what empire would genuinely stand by whilst its people are butchered?
The Gallente-Caldari war is a long history of atrocities, but the Caldari started the killing first. |
Disciple Of Kesha
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Filthy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
And yet that was the catalyst, not the mere act of leaving the Federation.
Yet you still would not let people who did not instigate the attack, nor had anything in common but race, go? We let them go just fine, until they killed our people. Do you seriously think any empire would simply stand by and do nothing when their cities were being razed? And you are hardly one to point the finger of blame for unjust orbital bombardments. I seem to recall you murdered almost an entire people simply for adapting your religion slightly to their own ways.
The slaughter of the Starkmiri people was not without contention and many regret the loss of so much life. This was not a coordinated action in which the whole empire was complicit.
And do you really not belive there was going to be another spark to set off the powder keg? It just happened to be from a caldari torch. Humans are inherently violent and war would have happened anyway without proper guidance from a higher authority. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2275
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:33:00 -
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*clamps hands*
It appears as though we are running in circles with these arguments. If all could be reasoned with, there would be no need for war. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2350
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:59:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:*clamps hands*
It appears as though we are running in circles with these arguments. If all could be reasoned with, there would be no need for war.
You cannot fault one of the Faithful for trying can you? |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2294
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:*clamps hands*
It appears as though we are running in circles with these arguments. If all could be reasoned with, there would be no need for war. You cannot fault one of the Faithful for trying can you?
It is not you I fault, Crusader Kador. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2355
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Posted - 2013.09.28 14:42:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:*clamps hands*
It appears as though we are running in circles with these arguments. If all could be reasoned with, there would be no need for war. You cannot fault one of the Faithful for trying can you? It is not you I fault, Crusader Kador.
(( Thank god you used his actual name, and not True. As of my recent lore True Adamance is the name of his HAV)) |
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