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843 nerfnut96 wrote:

Alright, i know that it's been awhile since you changed this but after talking about it in my squad today i decided to bring it up here.

A few updates ago you removed several of the supply depots around each map, now there is usually only one in open combat space and one in each teams redline.

Here are some of the problems with this, first of all having only one means that one team can have and hold the only place to change suits in the hot zone until a concerted effort is made to drive them out. Next is the fact that tankers (and even spit full swarmers and forgers) like to take out supply depots for the points, thus when destroyed it leaves no place to change suits in the burn zone. And my last point is that having only one in the burn zone often means having to leave your squad on their own while you run across the map to change suits and most likely get killed on the way.

So besides the obvious thing that i'm asking for (more supply depots), i also think that a system to replace destroyed depots after a set amount of time IE 3-5 minutes. This could be done by either dropping one in the same spot as the first, or dropping one in a 75 meter ratus.

Any other ideas from you guys?

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843 nerfnut96 BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 51	Posted - 2013.09.22 02:48:00 - [1] - Quote Alright, i know that it's been awhile since you changed this but after talking about it in my squad today i decided to bring it up here. A few updates ago you removed several of the supply depots around each map, now there is usually only one in open combat space and one in each teams redline. Here are some of the problems with this, first of all having only one means that one team can have and hold the only place to change suits in the hot zone until a concerted effort is made to drive them out. Next is the fact that tankers (and even spit full swarmers and forgers) like to take out supply depots for the points, thus when destroyed it leaves no place to change suits in the burn zone. And my last point is that having only one in the burn zone often means having to leave your squad on their own while you run across the map to change suits and most likely get killed on the way. So besides the obvious thing that i'm asking for (more supply depots), i also think that a system to replace destroyed depots after a set amount of time IE 3-5 minutes. This could be done by either dropping one in the same spot as the first, or dropping one in a 75 meter ratus. Any other ideas from you guys?
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San EoN. 30	Posted - 2013.09.22 02:51:00 - [2] - Quote I think this is where the Logi should throw some hives and utilise their ammo / equipment effectively. changing suits is for dead people imo.. shouldnt be an option on the depot.
843 nerfnut96 BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 51	Posted - 2013.09.22 02:57:00 - [3] - Quote Yeesss.... And i am a logi, and we need the supply depots to refresh our hives and equipment. In short there is only so much a logi can do without a supply depot.

CCP LogicLoop C C P C C P Alliance 972	Posted - 2013.09.22 06:51:00 - [4] - Quote This was done in preparation for future things.

DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 58	Posted - 2013.09.22 07:22:00 - [5] - Quote CCP LogicLoop wrote: This was done in preparation for future things. here we go again... CCP balancing things for **** that dont exist yet. why not change it... when the "future things" actually arrive?
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 452	Posted - 2013.09.22 07:48:00 - [6] - Quote CCP LogicLoop wrote: This was done in preparation for future things. Do you plan to have player deployed installation in 1.6 or 1.7? Then why the fuckzillion (invisible) railgun installation everywhere two shotting dropships?
G Torq ALTA B2O 233	Posted - 2013.09.22 08:42:00 - [7] - Quote CCP LogicLoop wrote: This was done in preparation for future things. /me looks forward to the Logistics MAV and OMS depots.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2146	Posted - 2013.09.22 08:54:00 - [8] - Quote I would like to point out that tankers usually destroy supply depots not for points but for the same reason they destroy turrets, it is a big potential AV threat.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 307	Posted - 2013.09.22 09:05:00 - [9] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I would like to point out that tankers usually destroy supply depots not for points but for the same reason they destroy turrets, it is a big potential AV threat. It's also a huge potential support, especially when ammo comes in, please try to refrain from destroying the ones that are decidedly in the friendly zone.
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 279	Posted - 2013.09.22 11:22:00 - [10] - Quote CCP LogicLoop wrote: This was done in preparation for future things. Can you explain why you made a change to the game early in preparation for future features? From my perspective this has worsened gameplay a fair bit. The Assault Rifle dominance is partly caused by this because it's the only weapon that can cope with 98% of all situations without needing a supply depot to change the load-out. I'm asking you not because I want to criticize you but because I've seen this sort of decision before in all parts of Dust. I realize that as a developer you have to concern yourself with the future of the product, but as players we generally look at what's released in a as-is manner. These "temporary" changes don't really improve the product from a customer perspective. This difference in perspective between Dust-as-in-2-years and Dust-as-currently-released is causing many of the troubles the game is facing, I believe. I'm trying to raise awareness for this issue because it's one of the reasons that I consider Dust not-recommendable for the near future.

I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 958	Posted - 2013.09.22 11:54:00 - [11] - Quote Seriously though. There weren't enough supply depots before, and now it seems like there's only 1 per map, and one in each redline. If there isn't going to be a fix for 1.5, at least give us the old ones back. As a multi-role player, I utilize supply depots as much as possible to change up my strategy when I need to. Not having them around only hinders my playstyle. There needs to be a lot more, and not just ones in and around bases. They need to be in between objectives just like CRUs.
Arc-08 Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 81	Posted - 2013.09.22 13:49:00 - [12] - Quote the dropping a new one within 75 meters of the original would not work on the outpost https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80616&find=unread i think just dropping a new one somwhere else would be better.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1333	Posted - 2013.09.22 13:52:00 - [13] - Quote Maybe eventually installations that are destroyed will leave a base that players can call other installations on. Speculation time!
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1469	Posted - 2013.09.22 14:39:00 - [14] - Quote CCP LogicLoop wrote: This was done in preparation for future things. hmm I think I get your drift...:)
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion 77	Posted - 2013.09.22 14:40:00 - [15] - Quote CCP LogicLoop wrote: This was done in preparation for future things. When, I keep hearing things will be implemented in the future and doing things for that, but I'm not hearing any dates of implementation not even roughly in what patches these will be in. Such examples, are the real marketplace, different vehicles such as jets and rocket packs and hover cycles. So when will whatever you are doing with the supply depos matter except for just limiting down tactical options in the current game.
843 nerfnut96 BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 57	Posted - 2013.09.22 14:43:00 - [16] - Quote Come on guys don't give 'em a hard time. I'm just glad he took the time to reply, as long as they say they are working on it i'm fine with that.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2148	Posted - 2013.09.22 14:52:00 - [17] - Quote Spademan wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I would like to point out that tankers usually destroy supply depots not for points but for the same reason they destroy turrets, it is a big potential AV threat. It's also a huge potential support, especially when ammo comes in, please try to refrain from destroying the ones that are decidedly in the friendly zone. That argument is used for turrets too, "they can support you!!!" Does not matter, tankers would rather not rely on anyone but themselves. Huge potential threats outweighs any amount of potential support.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 304	Posted - 2013.09.22 15:33:00 - [18] - Quote I cant wait until we can buy and own lots of the installations like the blaster turrets, supply depots etc...
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1531	Posted - 2013.09.22 15:48:00 - [19] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: I think this is where the Logi should throw some hives and utilise their ammo / equipment effectively. changing suits is for dead people imo.. shouldnt be an option on the depot. There's a button change suits on the controller. Just hold L2 for a couple seconds. if it doesn't work try again. always happens the second time.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 300	Posted - 2013.09.22 15:54:00 - [20] - Quote 843 nerfnut96 wrote: Alright, i know that it's been awhile since you changed this but after talking about it in my squad today i decided to bring it up here. A few updates ago you removed several of the supply depots around each map, now there is usually only one in open combat space and one in each teams redline. Here are some of the problems with this, first of all having only one means that one team can have and hold the only place to change suits in the hot zone until a concerted effort is made to drive them out. Next is the fact that tankers (and even spit full swarmers and forgers) like to take out supply depots for the points, thus when destroyed it leaves no place to change suits in the burn zone. And my last point is that having only one in the burn zone often means having to leave your squad on their own while you run across the map to change suits and most likely get killed on the way. So besides the obvious thing that i'm asking for (more supply depots), i also think that a system to replace destroyed depots after a set amount of time IE 3-5 minutes. This could be done by either dropping one in the same spot as the first, or dropping one in a 75 meter ratus. Any other ideas from you guys? +1 Great idea.

Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 202	Posted - 2013.09.22 17:45:00 - [21] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Xaviah Reaper wrote: I think this is where the Logi should throw some hives and utilise their ammo / equipment effectively. changing suits is for dead people imo.. shouldnt be an option on the depot. There's a button change suits on the controller. Just hold L2 for a couple seconds. if it doesn't work try again. always happens the second time. unless your using av grenades :)


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