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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:22:00 -
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So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2194
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:30:00 -
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M McManus wrote:So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ? OB's should in FW and PC be restricted to EVE side support and not earned through WP. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ? OB's should in FW and PC be restricted to EVE side support and not earned through WP.
They should start first by making FW and PC matches worth a **** to EVE players, **** for that matter Dust players as well.. |
8213
Grade No.2
292
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:37:00 -
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Orbitals only awestruck the eyes of scrubs...
They are an after thought in battle, no matter how many you obtain. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2194
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:43:00 -
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M McManus wrote:True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ? OB's should in FW and PC be restricted to EVE side support and not earned through WP. They should start first by making FW and PC matches worth a **** to EVE players, **** for that matter Dust players as well.. They are valuable to EVE players, the bonuses we get from Dust matches are worth taking some time out of complexing to run OB;s, however you are right. If Dusters could affect FW system stability we would be much more in demand. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2143
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:16:00 -
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They are taking the NPC strike out of FW and PC. Also they are working on changing it to something EVE players earn rather than Dust players, because currently it doesn't really make sense that an EVE player has to connect to the district and sit there for around 20 minutes doing nothing other than waiting for a strike to be requested. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
788
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:19:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ? OB's should in FW and PC be restricted to EVE side support and not earned through WP.
Will be like this. Sooner or later. No ETA yet. FoxFour mentioned Winter 2013 or Spring 2014 for this. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:22:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ? OB's should in FW and PC be restricted to EVE side support and not earned through WP. Will be like this. Sooner or later. No ETA yet. FoxFour mentioned Winter 2013 or Spring 2014 for this.
LOL Winter EXPANSION!, We'll be revealing our amazing plans to our 1.5k payer base, they will love what we have in store for them.... |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
989
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:23:00 -
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dont worry, nobody squads up in pubs so you wont see an increase in orbitals |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
801
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:23:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:They are taking the NPC strike out of FW and PC. Also they are working on changing it to something EVE players earn rather than Dust players, because currently it doesn't really make sense that an EVE player has to connect to the district and sit there for around 20 minutes doing nothing other than waiting for a strike to be requested.
If this is true I will wet myself with joy. I have run OBs from EvE several times and it is boring as hell. They are going to have to be careful though since making it too easy to earn orbitals eve side could be rather unbalancing. Also, how will EvE players target orbitals if they are not requested through Dust mercs? |
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:24:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:dont worry, nobody squads up in pubs so you wont see an increase in orbitals
**** two people with the current WP system scoring 20kills or above can get an orbital... |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:26:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:They are taking the NPC strike out of FW and PC. Also they are working on changing it to something EVE players earn rather than Dust players, because currently it doesn't really make sense that an EVE player has to connect to the district and sit there for around 20 minutes doing nothing other than waiting for a strike to be requested. If this is true I will wet myself with joy. I have run OBs from EvE several times and it is boring as hell. They are going to have to be careful though since making it too easy to earn orbitals eve side could be rather unbalancing. Also, how will EvE players target orbitals if they are not requested through Dust mercs?
LOL the CPM and CCP couldn't even tell us if this is true, how would one random guy on the forums have accurate information to answer your question in response to a speculation.... ? |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
989
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:27:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:They are taking the NPC strike out of FW and PC. Also they are working on changing it to something EVE players earn rather than Dust players, because currently it doesn't really make sense that an EVE player has to connect to the district and sit there for around 20 minutes doing nothing other than waiting for a strike to be requested. If this is true I will wet myself with joy. I have run OBs from EvE several times and it is boring as hell. They are going to have to be careful though since making it too easy to earn orbitals eve side could be rather unbalancing. Also, how will EvE players target orbitals if they are not requested through Dust mercs?
it could end up going minimage style where the eve player determins where the orbital drops and dust players dont call them in at all. maybe dust players wont even be able to mark locations?
not sure what possable to be honest but it may be possable to have a map of the dust battle in EvE to drop orbitals with...
maybe all calling in an orbital would do is mark where the ground guys want one and its up to the eve pilot to drop it there (or somewhere else) |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
515
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:35:00 -
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I think it's a feeble attempt to fix scout. Oh look - now scouts have a role: shooting at uplinks! Yay! you are such a bad S, you just killed 5 iron boxes on the ground that can't shoot or run! You really just saved your team! |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
989
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:36:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:I think it's a feeble attempt to fix scout. Oh look - now scouts have a role: shooting at uplinks! Yay! you are such a bad S, you just killed 5 iron boxes on the ground that can't shoot or run! You really just saved your team!
to be fair back in PC we always forced our scout to do that all game :P it was a very valid and nessesary role concidering the ability to spam them pretty much meant he was stuck killing them all game.
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1183
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:44:00 -
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I am really disappointed that they are doing this. Maybe I'm not seeing this correctly.
But IMO, now every single player is going to have scanners due to the WP farming.
And it kinda pisses me off because you know what, its a selfish endeavor
Use the scanner to help your team, period. You shouldn't be motivated to use the scanner solely because of WPs
They shouldn't be coaxing the players to do what the game is based around solely.
Now the majority of mercs are going to be getting scanners for the wrong reasons.
This is the problem as a whole, gamers always want compensation for doing something that they should be already doing for the better experience of the game.
I really don't like this idea. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
515
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:06:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:I think it's a feeble attempt to fix scout. Oh look - now scouts have a role: shooting at uplinks! Yay! you are such a bad S, you just killed 5 iron boxes on the ground that can't shoot or run! You really just saved your team! to be fair back in PC we always forced our scout to do that all game :P it was a very valid and nessesary role concidering the ability to spam them pretty much meant he was stuck killing them all game.
Is it fair to a scout though? I mean someone who has as many SP as you do? You tell them to run around and shoot uplinks and call it an FPS experience? Let's face it, if not that they would have no role in PC at all. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1224
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:07:00 -
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M McManus wrote:True Adamance wrote:M McManus wrote:So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ? OB's should in FW and PC be restricted to EVE side support and not earned through WP. They should start first by making FW and PC matches worth a **** to EVE players, **** for that matter Dust players as well.. Small % of system control gained for each clone an EvE pilot kills with an orbital? |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
989
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:28:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:dont worry, nobody squads up in pubs so you wont see an increase in orbitals **** two people with the current WP system scoring 20kills or above can get an orbital...
IF they are in a squad... wich most people never are in pubs |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
143
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:48:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I am really disappointed that they are doing this. Maybe I'm not seeing this correctly.
But IMO, now every single player is going to have scanners due to the WP farming.
And it kinda pisses me off because you know what, its a selfish endeavor
Use the scanner to help your team, period. You shouldn't be motivated to use the scanner solely because of WPs
They shouldn't be coaxing the players to do what the game is based around solely.
Now the majority of mercs are going to be getting scanners for the wrong reasons.
This is the problem as a whole, gamers always want compensation for doing something that they should be already doing for the better experience of the game.
I really don't like this idea.
Absolutely right, one of the main problems of this game is that almost every class gets to do almost anything they want and takes away the team work that would make for epic battles. |
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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
585
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:55:00 -
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M McManus wrote:So it looks like the only "Good thing" that is coming with fail1.5 is going to be the WP system where more random **** will give you WPs for scanning, shooting uplinks etc etc.. Is the amount of WP required to get an OB going to be increased or is (Precision Strike) Going to replace the AR514 kill feed ?
Sadly they haven't posted a dev blog. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
585
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:56:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:They are taking the NPC strike out of FW and PC. Also they are working on changing it to something EVE players earn rather than Dust players, because currently it doesn't really make sense that an EVE player has to connect to the district and sit there for around 20 minutes doing nothing other than waiting for a strike to be requested.
That is true. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2145
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Posted - 2013.09.22 00:13:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:They are taking the NPC strike out of FW and PC. Also they are working on changing it to something EVE players earn rather than Dust players, because currently it doesn't really make sense that an EVE player has to connect to the district and sit there for around 20 minutes doing nothing other than waiting for a strike to be requested. If this is true I will wet myself with joy. I have run OBs from EvE several times and it is boring as hell. They are going to have to be careful though since making it too easy to earn orbitals eve side could be rather unbalancing. Also, how will EvE players target orbitals if they are not requested through Dust mercs? FoxFour said they are discussing multiple means of this. One potential way is it simply pops up that an orbital is ready and any squad leader can request from it. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2207
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Posted - 2013.09.22 01:06:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:They are taking the NPC strike out of FW and PC. Also they are working on changing it to something EVE players earn rather than Dust players, because currently it doesn't really make sense that an EVE player has to connect to the district and sit there for around 20 minutes doing nothing other than waiting for a strike to be requested. Good its about damn time. I hated sitting around for 5 mins in my unfit Coercer waiting from the bloody pirates to descend. |
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