https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNvFPKujc5w soo sad story

With how slow heavies move there is no way i would support making it impossible for them to drive a lav. Besides most lav's are a 1 shot kill for tanks. Sorry you cant hit a moving target but thats your problem.

So stop the slowest and fatest from travel, because they can drive around and ue their big ass AV weapon versus a vehicle...seems thoroughly thought through.

How will heavies get places in a actually reasonable amount of time?

Again, it's a issue with the fact tanks are sheer paper.

Any ass wipe with proto AV can rip you a new *******.

Removing the capability to use vehicles makes heavies a large walking speed bump as they move from place to place.

I use sicas, because they don't need sp proto av costs a lot of sp

I don't think it's a good idea personally, I've never played as a Heavy but I think they need LAVs for mobility to be honest. Especially if playing solo as it's probably hard to hitch a ride from Blueberries.

when we get speeders it will be different as those will be one person vehicles with no tank on them. even the regular lavs are fine really, it just that the llavs can be used to get into range and if things go poorly for the heavy he can simply get back in and drive off without much fuss. thats really the issue here.

So you want to be a god ehh....

I think its very clear that forge guns need to go. They have way too much power, incredibly easy to use against infantry, complete decimation against vehicles of all types, and quite frankly annoy the absolute sh*t out of me ...

Speeders? Is that confirmed for 1.5 or 'CCP confirmed to be here within the next century'?
And yeah I agree that LLAVs are a bastard, but at least they cost a ton for when he gets blown up.

Just got out of a match. driving around in a sica again. was nervous about calling it because a blueberry lost two gunnlogis to that proto assault forge. when i saw that he stopped using it, i called in my sica.

heres my issue, when he saw me doing ok with my sica, he brings out his forge gun again and attacks me. i backed off and heaed for my redline (naturally) to recover my shields. then i see him circling around the redline a shield logi lav.

the reason i have a problem with this is because it lets him completely lock down any and all tanks on the map by himself. all he has to do, is wait for a tank to leave the redline and then drive up behind him with the lav. you cant kill the lav before he gets to you and once he does, all he needs to do is jump out spam av nades at close range and then spam his assault forge gun to finish you off as you try to flee. if you manage to get away, he can chase you in his logi lav to get back into range or line of sight and get you with his forge gun.

you cant do anything about him except hide in your redline or recall your tank. i would have recalled my tank, but i had blueberrie in it

my suggestion is to make heavy dropsuits unable to pilot or drive vehicles. they can still be passengers, but they wouldnt be able to use that tactic anymore. i highly doubt CCP intended for one guy to solo every tank on the map like that.

regular lavs arent an issue obviously because you can kill then before they reach you, but logi lavs with forge guns beat HAV's 90% of the time unless you get lucky with a blaster and shoot him out of the driver seat.

why dont scouts have the ehp of heavies then? they need it.
why cant scouts use hmgs? they need better guns too.

i'll tell you why, because it would be imbalanced.

your logic is flawed

heavies need/require support. theyre not meant to be good solo

''heavies need/require support. theyre not meant to be good solo''
Neither are tanks.

Yeah right deny heavys to drive vehicles. This idea is just as good as giving logis only a sidearm. Or give assault dropsuits a heavy weapon slot.

''heavies need/require support. theyre not meant to be good solo''
Neither are tanks.

Driving my LAV to get into position to gank your tank!

SUCK IT TANKER!

read what i wrote. logi lavs dont die in one shot unless youre glass cannon fit, which presents more problems than it solves.

the problem is that most people think heavies should be used like assault suits. there arent designed for that. theyre meant to defend and hold territory.

but if theyre mobile, then they end up defending and holding the entire map. which is a problem in terms of balance

Also a assault frame with proto swams and some complex mods would be even more of a thorn in your side. Its not like heavies are the only AV frame out there and its not like the forge gun is that much of a dominating AV weapon. Proto swarms do almost as much damage and allow the shooter to go back into cover quickly. I myself play with both and while i prefer my forge gun i tend to bust more tanks with my swarms, probably because they almost never miss and can just about do a 90 around corners. Honestly this whole thread is a pointless whine. About the only thing correct here is that tanks do need some love and the logi lav's are far too durable. I think everyone knew that already though.

read what i wrote. logi lavs dont die in one shot unless youre glass cannon fit, which presents more problems than it solves.

the problem is that most people think heavies should be used like assault suits. there arent designed for that. theyre meant to defend and hold territory.

but if theyre mobile, then they end up defending and holding the entire map. which is a problem in terms of balance

this here is the mindset of an amateur, any suit can be used any way, it does not say in the skills or the suit description that it is a point defence suit, it does however say that it can stand toe to toe with enemy vehicles, you got killed by a heavy being smart and using a lav to transport his slow fat easy assed bullseye around like a smart heavy quit your bitching and become more versatile and adaptable