DUST Search - ADS-ing question for playerbase?

Rogatien Merc wrote:

Aim mechanics and hit detection have never been static in this game - CCP is always tweaking them. If you are looking at Chromosome videos, you are looking at targets with relatively low SP and hitpoints ... proto really DID rule the battlefield back then and high proficiency top tier players could afford to just hip fire and standard suits would melt. When Uprising 1.0 dropped the TAC AR was beastmode in hipfire and did so much DPS that you didn't have to hit with every shot, even at range.

Current mechanics DO reward ADS - if you get a bead on a guy he will die very fast with ADS because your bullets will all hit if you can keep your sight on target. He will die, but die slower, if you hipfire. A lot of people hipfire to compensate for their own movement even at range, and while this will result in a kill, it is a much slower kill than if you ADS. In extreme CQC of course hipfire is preferable because you get more hits regardless of dispersion (geometry of cones...) and ADS nerfs your turn rate.

TL;DR - no, it's not just modded controllers. ADS is still preferable. Hipfire kills are easy yes, but require more rounds fired than ADS.


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DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.09.19 17:44:00 - [1] - Quote The hit registry with LDS is slightly more delayed then whilst hip firing... your bullets register better and say even three of your teammates are shooting the same low health target and they are LDS'ing... you will get the kill... This is CCP's aiming mechanics changes to save us 1 fps from the old aiming system they ran in Chromosome... Now i ask you is Uprising 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and finally 1.4 worth overhauling an aiming system regarded by the consensus as good for what we have dealt with for more then half a year? Personally ill take the 1 FPS drop anyday for an aiming system that works... Would of rather you spent your time on all the memory leaks... My playstation has bad memory already.... it ruins dust having to relog all the time because of poor programming.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.09.19 18:17:00 - [2] - Quote 8213 wrote: I think that's a lot of people who complain about ARs. They forget that the person shooting them may have the weapon maxed out. I do see a lot of actual aim bot thing occurring, like back in MW2. Where you hip fire, and the bullets stutter out of the barrel and have pin point accuracy. Its some kind of kb&m setup you can buy. Instead of using CCP KB/M system which is massively broken right now.. registry.. hitboxes.. jittery... people are going out and spending 60 bux on http://www.penguinunited.com/ Overlaying the ds3 aimbot and using it with mouse and keyboard as a toggle aimbot... and hitbox extender... Also providing much less delay in the control's then CCP's current KB/M option...
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 52	Posted - 2013.09.19 18:35:00 - [3] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Aim mechanics and hit detection have never been static in this game - CCP is always tweaking them. If you are looking at Chromosome videos, you are looking at targets with relatively low SP and hitpoints ... proto really DID rule the battlefield back then and high proficiency top tier players could afford to just hip fire and standard suits would melt. When Uprising 1.0 dropped the TAC AR was beastmode in hipfire and did so much DPS that you didn't have to hit with every shot, even at range. Current mechanics DO reward ADS - if you get a bead on a guy he will die very fast with ADS because your bullets will all hit if you can keep your sight on target. He will die, but die slower, if you hipfire. A lot of people hipfire to compensate for their own movement even at range, and while this will result in a kill, it is a much slower kill than if you ADS. In extreme CQC of course hipfire is preferable because you get more hits regardless of dispersion (geometry of cones...) and ADS nerfs your turn rate. TL;DR - no, it's not just modded controllers. ADS is still preferable. Hipfire kills are easy yes, but require more rounds fired than ADS. No one LDS's anymore... and if you are get with the times...