Oh I hear ya. That would work but your number would probably drop to around 50 or so. And wowzers, you've got a custom monitor that can slap on custom crosshairs? And I thought I've heard everything. That's totally new to me. I wonder if they still make monitors with that feature.

And yes, CCP screwed DS3 users when they allowed mouse use.

Skilled players are one thing, people who use hardware to gain an advantage then say something is OP is something totally different.

On top of using hardware to have an advantage, he was tower FG sniping. I personally do not see the fun in doing this. It is a boring way to play, unless you get enjoyment from griefing n00bs, in which case you have other issues besides being a cheater/exploiter at video games. (cheating by using hardware to get an advantage, and exploiting by using the games lack of insight in it's map design to get the upperhand)

Also, I don't know if your comment is directed toward me, but I suspect that it is. I am not a dedicated Forge Gunner, but I do use the FG. I do get good scores with it, and am not in anyway jealous of the OP's scores he got by cheating.

What many people in this game fail to realize is that their selfish stat whoring actions have a huge impact in this game. You fail to realize that you are not in an extremely competitive gaming environment. If you would stop to consider the impact your actions had on the game in general, you would tone this competitiveness down a few notches.

Rule of thumb: Just because one can do something doesn't mean one should.

Think about the negative impact something may have on the game before you try to use it to get an unfair advantage.

Console games, as I stated before are now, have always been, and always will be a casual gaming platform. If the majority of the desired playerbase approaches DUST from a casual point of view (which they do, because it is a console game) and are not able to at least feel like they are doing halfway decent in the game because of highly competitive stat whoring elitist PC gamers, they will simply not play the game.

The elitist PC gamer mentality, and using hardware for an advantage is counterproductive to building DUST's player base, and really needs to end.

You seriously need to stop about the KB/M argument because your being stupid...... If people will buy monitor's for custom crosshair's and custom mice and gamepad's... They will buy a KB/M converter for the PS3 and be able to use the Aimbot WITH keyboard and mouse... a converter is 40 bux cheap end...

Your just stuck in the past ps2 mentality where you think Keyboard and mouse users arent in almost every consol game you play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N1wK00M720Y


Aim assist is only another tool to be abused by Pro FPS players and people who know better... its not a tool to make noobs relevant. or help ds3 compete against keyboard which "it never had a problem with before" from any experienced ds3 users mouth that plays DUST.

its something that drastically ruins any player based skill... and put's it in the hands of a computer to react and do a majority of the aiming for you, aslong as your looking in the right direction.

First of all, you're making yourself sound like an @$$ for calling me stupid when I never even targeted you for derogatory comments.

I've used the DS3 prior to Uprising for my forge gun and only recently switched to mouse about a month ago. I know what the DS3 limitations are. I prefer DS3 for console games, but after countless run-ins with players who run circle around you while keeping their bead on target, I switched to mouse. So no, I am not knowledgeable on all of those mods, converters, and such because I don't hunt them down. Please refrain yourself from derogatory comments on replies to me.

Thank you.

Delusional, no. Mature, yes!

Am I "whining" no. I do just fine against you scrubs who need assistance from "extraneous hardware". I just know this game could be so much more without you fouling it up. So roll your eyes all you want. You are an immature scrub stat *****. I hope you get tired of this game really soon along with the rest of your elitist PC gamer contemporaries.

You do that lol, because we all know the truth:

You would suck at this game without it.

Delusional, no. Mature, yes!

Am I "whining" no. I do just fine against you scrubs who need assistance from "extraneous hardware". I just know this game could be so much more without you fouling it up. So roll your eyes all you want. You are an immature scrub stat *****. I hope you get tired of this game really soon along with the rest of your elitist PC gamer contemporaries.

You do that lol, because we all know the truth:

You would suck at this game without it.

Sounds like the same argument as : "I have computer generated aim and tracking system so all you so called "skilled" players are going to die to me now"

personally ill take someone using their own input from a mouse... or use a gaming monitor been used and sold for years.... Then someone who can't aim for them self's and think they should have something guiding their aim for it to be fair or for them to be competitive....

Your just a guy who wants to run and forge gun with AR's, think Forgers shouldn't use any tactical advantages, And should all be limited to a 30 year old means for control input...

And if everyone followed your set of "honor" the forge gun would be perfectly balanced...

Just short yellow bus worthy...

Lol even if I did use aim assist, the FG does not have it.

I really don't need AA to be good at DUST. I also don't need a Kb/M or special monitor.

Like I stated earlier, if you are good, you will be good without all of the extra hardware helping you. If you need the extra hardware just to get good scores and stroke your ego, you really are not good at all.

What makes someone a good player, is the fact that they can use the same controls as anybody else, with no extra hardware and still be good.

If you really think having a special monitor to change your reticule doesn't make a difference, you are delusional. They wouldn't make one if it had no effect.

If you really think using a Kb/M makes no difference, try a DS3 for a month. Specifically try it against players who you know use Kb/M. I can pick them out of a match every time. The difference is like seeing a kiwi in a basket of oranges.

I never said a Forge Gunner shouldn't use tactical advantages. I hardly equate camping on top of a 200m tower a tactical advantage. It is cowardly tbqh.

Your insinuation that people who use the DS3 are mentally handicapped just points more to your elitist PC gamer mentality, which is rubbish and is killing this game.

Get off your high horse.

So if it doesn't need changes according to you, then why suggest them?

Especially since your suggestions make no sense.

If you reduce the range, you make it much more difficult to do what it is suppossed to do, which is AV work.

If you increase direct damage, you risk making it OP vs tanks, which are supposed to be the primary target. They are already OP vs dropships, so adding more DD would be no good.

Forget the toll on hives, because any reasonable PC setup involves a whole fittings worth of hives, just for the fatties.

No, the big difference is to severely cut the splash range and mildly cut the splash damage. This allows the FG to still be effective in its primary role, while limiting its effectiveness versus infantry. If someone can get a 3 pack of splashes, they deserve to kill infantry, and if they get a direct hit, they absolutely should kill any suit they hit.

What would reduce the QQ is to limit the ability of the FG to pump box after box of ammo onto an objective and kill anyone in a 6m circle. That is why it gets slagged. Not because it is OP versus vehicles(other than poor, poor dropships).

First off splashnon FG is a little too much, A LITTLE.

Secondly your telling me dust is easy mode
when you have shelled out money for superior hardware, that gives you a physical tactical advantage?

I mean there is nothing wrong with it, but its like winning a knife fight with a hand and a half sword!!

Look sorry but, WE DON'T CARE, the point you have tried to make has been completely invalidated, because of 1 simple reason, you bypassed one of the forge guns biggest drawbacks, HOW you did this is irrespective, your point would be just as invalid if you had put a dot physically on your telly!

You can't claim a weapon is op based on your experience, if you have bypassed the built-in negatives to the weapon!!

The Range of the FG is 300m Tops.

What you are suggesting would only encourage Tower FG sniping because once you fire, you would be completely vulnerable just as if you Overheated a weapon, or are reloading. This would completely gimp those of us who play without exploiting dirty tricks, and bad design elements.

Nerf Tower Camping. Reshape the tops of towers to make it impossible to land on and camp from them.

There is no "forge gun against infantry problem". The FG does exactly what it is supposed to do.

If you get hit with a Large Rail Turret from a sniper tank, do you complain about it?

What if you get 1 shotted by a Railgun Installation? Should we nerf those too?

The ONLY change I would make to any FG is the "hold charge" variants.

I would make them so that the longer you hold a charge, the more the reticule shakes.