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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 10:57:00 -
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the answer is stability and reliability
Beucase of how long it takes to fully skill into a weapon and how oftin weapons go back and fourth in usefullness the AR has been the safe weapon to pick and run since the game began.
almost everyone has skilled into the AR.
investing SP at this point is a gamble, you never know if what your skilling into will still be viable by the time youve invested months to max it out.
and this results in people staying on the safe side of things sticking to the AR in order to have the security of knowing their playstyle will never have to change.
not only that but every player reguardless of race starts with the AR, so they naturally stick to it since its what they first get used to.
its not that the AR is OP its that its the only safe weapon to spec into, the one that wont change and will always be viable.
that combined with its jack of all trades nature is whats creating the AR prevalance we have now.
Stop the AR- VS - Specialist weapons war guys.
its just the natural result of how the game is presented to new players, and the result of the rapid changes the game keeps going under.
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:11:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:So it's ok 2 nerf al the other guns/stuff but the AR?
This is just a pathetic try to justify that the AR with the AA as it is now is OP .
I have a suggestion wy don't we undo al the guns nerf that was done BEFORE AA came into play.
you should probably read a post before you comment.
no buffing or nerfing was mentioned.
aim assaist is turned off... it doesnt exsist they took away its magnetism a few days ago.
i dont friggen use the AR dumbass, and this isnt a pro AR thread.
this is an explanation of people behavior, the source of the ARs popularity and even if it was nerfed... you would STILL see the AR as the most popular weapon becuase of these factors.
this thread has nothing to do with the strength of the AR as a weapon. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:32:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:TL;DR = They work.
and always will |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:49:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Only few people was using the AR before the Aim-assist, just look back.. you won't see many AR QQing threads. Most of the QQing was about the MD, but curiously ... no one is QQing about the MD anymore ? You have to be blind or stupid to don't see that the AA is the real problem, or both.
ive been here since closed beta and the reign of missle dropships.
AR QQ threads have exsisted since the begining.
AA is turned off right now... so dont even bring that up here.
and yes most people used the AR before aim assist |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 12:08:00 -
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this isnt a balance discussion folks...
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 12:36:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:this isnt a balance discussion folks...
No its a defend the ar thread, which doesn't need defending it needs balancing!!
*facepalm*
do you jsut assume any thread without the word nerf in it is defending something?
if you read it, you may notice that the thread is pointing out a problem with the way skills and balancing efforts make the AR a popular choice. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 12:45:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:this isnt a balance discussion folks...
No its a defend the ar thread, which doesn't need defending it needs balancing!! *facepalm* do you jsut assume any thread without the word nerf in it is defending something? if you read it, you may notice that the thread is pointing out a problem with the way skills and balancing efforts make the AR a popular choice. Chances Ghost wrote:
its not that the AR is OP-á
That sounds like your defending it to me!! People are annoyed with the power of AR, you tell us its fine, thats defending it in my books!
*facepalm*
again
the issue isnt weather its OP or not...
the issue is that because of the massive changes back and fourth in weapons the AR is the only option if you want any build stability and want a SAFE invetment for your skillpoints. and a build that will be viable no matter what match/map/ or suit you use.
this thread isnt defending the AR its attacking it from another direction.
if you cant identify a thread that pointsing out PROBLEMS with the AR development and instead cry "stop defending the AR" in a thread thats about FIXING IT then you have no right to comment on the situation.
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The answer is because an Exile Assault Rifle often outperforms a Boundless Heavy Machine Gun 
boundless has alot higher DPS
any outperformance is by the player not the gun in that case (depending on range, if you engage someone while they are in optimal range and your gun isnt then well you deserve to get owned |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 19:18:00 -
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Son Down wrote:Awwwwww, Buster isn't any good at video games..... :-(
not sure who your talking to buuuuutt...
i WILL blow you up with a MD or my F/45s
or my dual SMG assault
or my novaknife scout
or my super soma
but i wont be killing you with an AR... its not minmatar tech... YET |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.19 19:32:00 -
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Bad Cheetah wrote: If you think AA is gone, put on a laser and get someone at range. You'll follow them every step of the way.
I agree with the original post. People went into AR because it's familiar. You also have options. Full auto, semi, burst, short and long range. This isn't about a nerf, it's just stating the obvious.
this
thank you, it IS about stating the obvious, because aparently we cant talk about the subject without picking a side in this wierd messed up argument.
this thread brings up the obvious.
people have no idea what balance is, and yet they are fueding over it.
this thread was as neutral as i could make it, stating simple obvious facts that cant really be denyed, it IS why ARs will always be popular.
i diddnt even say it was a bad thing that they are popular, i actually like the balance we have now.
ARs of the various races should probably be popular, its just obvious now becuase we dont have all the racial varients, once we have an AR for all the races and not just two things will even out and start to feel nice.
this thread is pretty much over so i will leave with some last words.
"Remove yourself from greed"
the moto of the development team ive been apart of for nearly 13 years.
when analysing game mechanics you have to aproch the subject without reguard to your own personal bias and playstyle, balance cant be achieved if we look out for our interests over the interests of a heathly game.
If you want to discuss game mechanics, dont pick a side and start a war. it does nothing but hurt the game.
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