DUST Search - When will scouts get buffed?

Revelations 514 wrote:

Toby Flenderson wrote:

Niuvo wrote:

1.5, 1.6? The scout community is mad. What are your plans for us? If we die this quick then cloaking should be ours only, so we can stay invisible. CCP, you guys can do better. Think assassination playstyle. Nova Blade can be a Light weapon because no one uses NKs as a sidearm. 16mil SP and I have to run like a ***** from a mlt suit with a mlt weapon. I get spotted easily, you can't avoid fire with speed, I'm sure you already know about the movement speed shenanigans. What are you intending for us to do? How do we play as scout role?! We need answers. Will we get a respec? What kind of buffs are you thinking about?

My gallente is sitting in a dark room by himself, just sitting there. Abandoned. Cobwebs are around him, heavy Dust (514) all over him. He has a sign that reads "Help".

Maybe you're using it wrong. I have only enhanced gallente scout running complex shield extenders and a complex kinetic catalyzer and I do just fine with my militia shotgun. I think the problem with scout suits is with the community using them as fast assault suits with low health. You don't need invisibility to execute the assassination playstyle.

Yeah, scouts are fine until you get into real combat. I see from your corp that you most likely haven't seen any PC action. Go ahead and show us your positive K/D in PC in your Scout suit you badass you. FFS any true Scout will not sit there and honestly say they are fine as is...so your either not a true Scout, or haven't seen true combat. I'm not willing to call you a liar so I chose the latter.

Your complex extenders don't actually do anything since they are based on % and mean that it's not even one extra bullet from an AR, you would be better served by the rechargers that lower your max shield output.

1 complex kincat doesn't make you much faster, and only with sprinting, so you are fodder once someone sees you as you cannot "speed tank"

militia shotty is actually a smart move and I use it as well. Good luck getting kills on peeps in PC with 800-900EHP though. Gonna take you four point blank shots if they are perfectly placed, and you will not survive that long. So don't assume the Scout community is full of stupid folks that are "using them wrong" which is also a crap argument. We all came up the same way and I can almost guarantee every Scout has used your same setup in the same way at the same point during their progression. Get to the end game and then see how your fit stacks up. The Scout "role" gets harder as you progress there bud, both gear wise and because your tricks will no longer be as effective.


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Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 512	Posted - 2013.09.19 10:09:00 - [1] - Quote 1.5, 1.6? The scout community is mad. What are your plans for us? If we die this quick then cloaking should be ours only, so we can stay invisible. CCP, you guys can do better. Think assassination playstyle. Nova Blade can be a Light weapon because no one uses NKs as a sidearm. 16mil SP and I have to run like a ***** from a mlt suit with a mlt weapon. I get spotted easily, you can't avoid fire with speed, I'm sure you already know about the movement speed shenanigans. What are you intending for us to do? How do we play as scout role?! We need answers. Will we get a respec? What kind of buffs are you thinking about? My gallente is sitting in a dark room by himself, just sitting there. Abandoned. Cobwebs are around him, heavy Dust (514) all over him. He has a sign that reads "Help".
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 517	Posted - 2013.09.19 16:59:00 - [2] - Quote It sounds like some of you are finding ways to make it work. As for me, I've tried it all and I always die to the same reasons. I always get spotted! I'm running over here_AR hits me. I'll hide over here_AR hits me. We want answers from the devs about our standing. Since I can't kill alot, I somettimes play a supportive role and do just as bad. My only hope are these knive upgrades in 1.5. How long will they make me wait in order for me to have an advantage in a scout suit. We shouldn't be that fragile to begin with, when we use scout mods, we are fighting naked with no armor.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 526	Posted - 2013.09.20 19:02:00 - [3] - Quote What's going to happen to us? and when?
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 530	Posted - 2013.09.23 10:31:00 - [4] - Quote We all know that we are good players. The problem is dying from noobs with ARs and no creativity. When I die from a scout I'm like "ok, that bastard lol" I'm sure everyone realizes that we are scouts, but we must also be in the assult or you won't help out your team. When you go solo to hack a point and someone is on to you, you have to kill him! and my scout mods that I invested in should be able to help me! The game is unbearable and pointless. I'm hanging in there.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 530	Posted - 2013.09.23 11:28:00 - [5] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Niuvo wrote: We all know that we are good players. The problem is dying from noobs with ARs and no creativity. When I die from a scout I'm like "ok, that bastard lol" I'm sure everyone realizes that we are scouts, but we must also be in the assult or you won't help out your team. When you go solo to hack a point and someone is on to you, you have to kill him! and my scout mods that I invested in should be able to help me! The game is unbearable and pointless. I'm hanging in there. Your will is all inspiring brother. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. Thanks. its like this. the game sucks and sucks. The second I see you on the enemy team, my eyes get big and wide and now I want to kill you. If I die by you in a scout suit, I will go to my grave happy knowing that someone else is using the same thing as me. That is what makes my day. or, or if we are on the same team tearing things up. I know forsure that the scout suit has its moments of glory, of triumph over overwhelming odds! We refuse to drop our standards because we know that scout is how we want to play. Even if it means dying a lot right now.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 547	Posted - 2013.09.26 06:10:00 - [6] - Quote Revelations 514 wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Niuvo wrote: 1.5, 1.6? The scout community is mad. What are your plans for us? If we die this quick then cloaking should be ours only, so we can stay invisible. CCP, you guys can do better. Think assassination playstyle. Nova Blade can be a Light weapon because no one uses NKs as a sidearm. 16mil SP and I have to run like a ***** from a mlt suit with a mlt weapon. I get spotted easily, you can't avoid fire with speed, I'm sure you already know about the movement speed shenanigans. What are you intending for us to do? How do we play as scout role?! We need answers. Will we get a respec? What kind of buffs are you thinking about? My gallente is sitting in a dark room by himself, just sitting there. Abandoned. Cobwebs are around him, heavy Dust (514) all over him. He has a sign that reads "Help". Maybe you're using it wrong. I have only enhanced gallente scout running complex shield extenders and a complex kinetic catalyzer and I do just fine with my militia shotgun. I think the problem with scout suits is with the community using them as fast assault suits with low health. You don't need invisibility to execute the assassination playstyle. Yeah, scouts are fine until you get into real combat. I see from your corp that you most likely haven't seen any PC action. Go ahead and show us your positive K/D in PC in your Scout suit you badass you. FFS any true Scout will not sit there and honestly say they are fine as is...so your either not a true Scout, or haven't seen true combat. I'm not willing to call you a liar so I chose the latter. Your complex extenders don't actually do anything since they are based on % and mean that it's not even one extra bullet from an AR, you would be better served by the rechargers that lower your max shield output. 1 complex kincat doesn't make you much faster, and only with sprinting, so you are fodder once someone sees you as you cannot "speed tank" militia shotty is actually a smart move and I use it as well. Good luck getting kills on peeps in PC with 800-900EHP though. Gonna take you four point blank shots if they are perfectly placed, and you will not survive that long. So don't assume the Scout community is full of stupid folks that are "using them wrong" which is also a crap argument. We all came up the same way and I can almost guarantee every Scout has used your same setup in the same way at the same point during their progression. Get to the end game and then see how your fit stacks up. The Scout "role" gets harder as you progress there bud, both gear wise and because your tricks will no longer be as effective. Relax guy. We aren't at optimum condition. Who knows when? It's not about going positive in pc, it's how much you contribute. I haven't been in much PC, so what? Don't want to build hatred now. In the future when I want to be in PC I'll go in my scout suit no matter what. Why? Because that's how I want to play and I'm not going to switch to fotm OP/unbalanced weapons. Maybe in the future we'll be on par.