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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:12:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:But you guys are scouts though. So I would expect death to be closer in friendship with scouts than with any other role. Maybe I'm wrong because I don't do scout roles. Yall fast and troublesome...what more do you want?
There would be nothing wrong if we could scout but we can't as CCP decides shared Teamview is a bad Idea apart from the Active scanner.
So now our nearly useless passive scann abilities totally useless. In short Scout =/= Scout but Scout = Easy Prey.
Regarding the OP CCP said when the vehicle balancing goes well they try to give scout some in 1.5 now that the vehicle balancing is of the table I highly doubt that there will be much love for scouts prior to 1.7 or 1.8 (I suspect 1.6 to be the new vehicle patch)... |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:18:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:- Able to fit our suits properly (PG/CPU/Slots)
- Be faster and have more stamina than a medium suit
- Have our hit box made smaller and not lag behind us
- Have AA not work against a scout suit
- Make our passive scanners work
- Give use proper racial bonuses for our class (hacking?)
- etc.
This would be really a good start... |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:39:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Scouts are not Assault. They are not Heavy. They are light. Fast. Fragile. I do not believe they need a health boost.
I'm not sure about the others here, but I do not have an issue suiting up my Gallente Scout. The Scouts were not meant for the front lines. Doing otherwise is the same as a lone heavy out in the open. Terrible.
When using the Scout, use it as a team player role, not a pretend Assault. Flank, don't charge. Duck behind cover, don't jump over it. Stay out of sight. These are the things to go by when running Scout. In 1.3, they said the Shotgun Scout was terrible. I scoffed at them and did it anyways, running only standard or less. 10+ every Ambush. Every.
Something is off about the 1.4 shotgun, in my opinion. I feel as though it doesn't work as it did before. That sure as **** doesn't stop my own Scout from melee raping people.
They could do with a small increase in speed, not health.
Right now scouts are only fragile, fast? the Minni Assault ist nearly as fast as a scout with more flexibility and more health. The difference in speed between a scout and a medium frame suit is not great and it does not justify the differences in slot layout and HP.
With the raising prominence of active scanners scouts aren't stealthy any more you have to invest quite some SP to bypass even the advanced scanner (AUR) or the Protoscanner bypassing the Focused Active Scanner is nearly impossible with a reasonable fit.
- So we can not scout better than medium suits
- we aren't reasonable faster than medium suits
- And thanks to active scanners we can't flank very good and LOS always catches us
- The shot gun still doesn't work right and with a useless proficiency skill the SG is not able to compete at CQC.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:48:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Right now scouts are only fragile, fast? the Minni Assault ist nearly as fast as a scout with more flexibility and more health. The difference in speed between a scout and a medium frame suit is not great and it does not justify the differences in slot layout and HP.
With the raising prominence of active scanners scouts aren't stealthy any more you have to invest quite some SP to bypass even the advanced scanner (AUR) or the Protoscanner bypassing the Focused Active Scanner is nearly impossible with a reasonable fit.
- So we can not scout better than medium suits
- we aren't reasonable faster than medium suits
- And thanks to active scanners we can't flank very good and LOS always catches us
- The shot gun still doesn't work right and with a useless proficiency skill the SG is not able to compete at CQC.
I agree that the scanning has been a tremendous blow towards the scouts. ... For those that don't lure. I don't run dampeners on any of my suits. I will run something like, say Cardiac Regulator and Kinetic Catalyzer. You may see me, but I'll be damned if you can catch my Motocross lookin' ass. Scouts are not useless. Just know that the Scout is often a one way ticket. Accept the suit as a token of good faith and an acceptance of death, for it is only the Scout that is so intimate with death so often.
Don't get me wrong I love scouts its just the hard way as the Suit can be outclassed in every way by medium suits. So the scout is always the hard choice no matter what you want to do but still the scout can do this stuff... |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:24:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:
There would be nothing wrong if we could scout but we can't as CCP decides shared Teamview is a bad Idea apart from the Active scanner.
In observing the Scout Community's performance, the squad-sight change is likely the best thing that's happened to Scouts since Uprising 1.0. Tac AR nerf, Flaylock nerf, and a somewhat more reliable Shotgun are runners up.
But this destroyed the whole point of the gallente scout and its role. Sure it is still somewhat usable and maybe they benefit from the removal if they run as light assault but I never really thought that this was the intended role of a scout suit.
Even if scouts do in general better that changes nothing about the fact that they don't have a role an the battlefield anything a scout can do right now a medium frame can do better with more survivability.
To stay undetected you have to put quite some efforts in dampening as more and more folks is running the advanced scanner... |
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