. . . behaves like the other specialisation bonuses, what then will be the point of proto or advanced versions of the suit?

Currently specialisation bonuses are the same regardless of tier, and only governed by the level of said specialisation. If this is the way the pilot specialisation will function, then there will really be no point in using the prototype since it'll be couped up safely inside a tank or dropship.
The only benefit would perhaps be to tank the suit when in a LAV.

Should this be an issue? I generally don't care, on the other hand I'd at least object to vehicle users being able to upgrade their loadouts without any added financial risk.

Shoutout to Taz-666 for pointing this out to me.

This honestly isn't something that I'd ever thought of.

Some solutions off the top of my head would be the addition of vehicle specific modules for dropsuits being added to the game. If this happened then the proto versions of these dropsuits would be worthwhile because you could fit more vehicle modules on your proto pilot suit.

Though an easier way to handle this would be to have the passive suit bonus as well as a bonus that is set up on the dropsuit itself, say the Pilot Dropsuit skill adds 10% of X and the Dropsuit itself would add 5%/7%/10% additional X depending on whether you're using STD/ADV/PRO

Considering the expense of a tank or well fitted dropship and LAVs, I disagree.

Besides, good vehicle users already do this.

I like this. I was actually expecting modules for vehicle use a long time ago, along with a kind of area effect modules for a Crusader dropsuit.

Should this be an issue? I generally don't care, on the other hand I'd at least object to vehicle users being able to upgrade their loadouts without any added financial risk.

there is also the fact that the basic frame would be mincemeat outside the vehicle. Their precious ride won't last forever. And at times you can't call it in the redline with AV blasting away before its even landed. After all its hard do hide from the enemy that your dropping a tank (especially if Ivan has had a few) so if he tries to call it in a stupid place then the enemy can get +50 WP for killing the squishy gunner and the choice of hacking a lovely new ride or blowing it up for an additional +150 WP
The Adv or Proto would help

Also remember that if you wanted a decent rep tool as well you'd need more CPU/PG

You disagree with what? And what do vehicle users already do?

lolwut

We die once, we're out a million.

That's a general balance issue. I'm talking about improving your entire setup with no extra cost.

That's a general balance issue. I'm talking about improving your entire setup with no extra cost.

You think we hop in the pilot seat/pod with a PROTO suit on? Ha!

How did you reach that conclusion?

No, I think that if you want a lvl5 specialisation bonus it should cost more than 3k a pop.

As i see it:

Vehicle enhancing Dropsuit modules

Say one for more turret tracking. one that helps the scan precision,one that (somehow) helps the Shield regen rate, etc...

"You keep on saying that we want to improve our fits, but doing so we would have to use the PROTO, even though we might be trying to use a cheap fit. By that logic, pro. skills would be only useful on the Officer weapons, and all other suits would have to go by that rule. I don' think so."

No, you wouldn't have to use the proto. That's my point. Specialisation bonuses apply equally to all meta levels of that specialisation. Did you read my OP?

This. I would put a mix of speed, repair, and resistance. Will be yummy

Well, if you paid attention, you would see that, like we're all saying other than you, that there would be some kind of extra something that the adv. and PROTO ones would get over the STD ones. That's obvious. A skill wouldn't be enough.

Eve has implants that affect rate of fire among many other things. I'm sure the racial bonuses would be something similar.

That could get a little bit too OP that way. Rather, it should have modules that boost a certain module, like an armor repairer booster that makes it work better, or a nitro flow adjuster that makes it work longer. Things like that.

Oh well of course. im not talking about putting VEHICLE modules on a PILOT suit.
But yeah.
Your idea is pretty much what i was thinking.Think of this:

While getting your ''cx Armor repairer'' as a vehicle module you would also unlock a dropsuit module that increases the effectivness (without having to spend SP on it, or VERY minimal.Like 6sp with a x2 multiplier)
This way (imaginary example) say this Cx Armor repairer gives you 500 per pulse.
While you unlocked this module you also unlocked ''armor technician'' skill. This Would give something like +2% armor rep efficiency per level (BY DEFAULT/PASSIVE) and you could equip a Cx Armor Rep enhancer MODULE ON YOUR SUIT that gave you up to 15% more armor repaired per pulse for a total of 25% (625 repair per pulse instead of 500)

this is JUST an example, please CCP DO NOT USE THIS numbers, for gods sake...LOL

All suits should have a bonus

Militia and Standard suits should get a static bonus that reflects the suit's role.

Advanced should get the standard static and a leveled bonus that is race specific.

Prototype should get the static, racial and then a weapon bonus that is leveled.

Militia and standard Amarr assault could have 10% better armor reps.
Advanced would have a 5% per level heat build up reduction per level and 10% better reps.
The proto suits could have 5% to heat per level, 10% better reps and then 2% per level LR range.

This type of progress would allow muliple suits of each type in every tier and let mercs really use a suit to the fullest. I don't really like the differences in suits because they are bland. The prototype suits and advanced suits are just more of the same thing and they don't have much of a difference besides more slots and resources. They should be different or do something more specialized.

The pilot suit is a perfect example. If the bonuses are set up like they are with the other suits then there is not a reason to go proto. Why would I spend more on a suit that isn't going to help me 99% of the time.

Standard - 10% resistance to damage - race specific.
Advanced - 10% resistance with 2% per level CPU/PG increase.
Prototype - 10% resistance, 2% per level to resources and 1% increase to turret damage per level - race specific.

Anything we can do to make the game more diverse and offer different play styles that isn't more tank and an AR should be looked at and considered.