I only notice my passive scanner when I am hacking a red CRU. If I keep my eye on the minimap, i can instantly tell if an enemy has spawned on the CRU. This is the only situation I have found that the passive scan is actually useful.

Sometimes people pop on your radar outside because they preform an action that gives themself away. I can't verify what actions do, but I've been researching.

Passive Scanning occurs only in your forward Quadrant.

Sorry kirk it works for me, have you put any sp into prescsion?
Im on lvl 2 and I see dead people, scouts, I mean scouts!

oh wait same thing!!

I am intrigue by this thick object aspect you brought up.

In the gallente research facility map, I am able to be on the second floor from point Charlie and see the hostiles through several walls on the bottom floor. So we are talking about several layers of walls as I am able to see them spiral up the stairwell. I do not have any levels in gal scout, no modules to increase range, and only have passive range up to lvl 4.

I have level one and carry a precision enhancer because I'm gallente and I have a useless third highslot.

It seems to be working with people who have scout suits so I guess scout suits do fine.
Or gallente Assaults are just terrible at scanning

layers are irrelevant. Apparently, floors count even less than walls.


If you can see a person-shape through 1 pane of glass, then stacking 5 of them will not obscure you from seeing someone is there :)

I have level one and carry a precision enhancer because I'm gallente and I have a useless third highslot.

This is not true.

wierd-weapon-related-scan occurs in your forward quadrant. That is not "passive scanning". that is something that CCP has not given a name to.

As for true passive-scan, either you're testing the wrong thing, or your testing methodologies are flawed.

Your theory about "somethigng gives you away" does not explain how I saw people on my radar, behind me, when I had only been facing forward for the last 20 seconds (so no residuals) and they did not fire at me.


I've done careful testing (in prior version) and a test enemy approaching a base scout dropsuit from behind, or from the side, appeared at the expected place on my radar, without them doing ANYTHING other than simply moving.
As soon as they impinged 10m, that is.

We tested this and he was incorrect. The short passive range is deceptive and has lead to a few incorrect assumptions about how scanning works, such as seeing through things. I now think it's as simple as compare profile to sensitivity if in passive range. Walls, terrain, and activity have no bearing on detection.

sigh. going to not reply to the whole racial thing here. that would be a long thread.
Instead, focusing down on actual scan issues for this thread;




That is NOT "passive scan". That is something that is not at all documented, and rarely mentioned. that is your field-of-view, weapon-based scan...... thing.
(And it's not 180 degrees. It's 90 degrees. 45 left of sight, and 45 right of sight)

Really stupidly and irritatingly, it has seemingly infinite precision. And ludicrously far range. This really needs to be removed.

Back to the implicit question in your post:
If redberries disappear from your rader when out of your field-of-view, that means 1 of 2 things. Either:

1. They're further out than 10 meters from you. Which is quite likely: 10 meters is TINY. The first circle on your rader denotes 20 meters, if I recall correctly

2. you dont have enough passive scan precision to detect them.

This seems to happen to you a lot, so I'd guess you run around in assault/medium/heavy suits all the time.
In which case, this thread really doesnt have much for you, other than to point out that, while you cant see the scout sneaking up behind you, they can see YOU when you try to do it, juuust fiiine....

Leave it in. It saved me 2x last night because the merc blended with the scenery on a spin.