Keep saying that after year and half of ccp failing to deliver on anything I'm normall very forgiving but it's reached the point were I have no faith in this studio. I hope the maps and building team get moved to WoD team tbh

As someone who has done even the most basic of programming, I can forgive them for delays like that. Poor design and priotities, I can not forgive them for.

CCP listened to the community and delayed a half baked patch rather than disappoint us with problems we would have been happy to help avoid.

10/10

which is funny people were complaining about unfinished patches few weeks ago because they did not feel aim assist was done correctly and are now bitching that something is getting pushed back in order to make sure it is done right, yet people still cry.

Imagine what devs like FoxFour, LogicLoop, Nullarbor and Wolfman -WANT- to show us but can't because it'll just cause another one of these outbursts whenever something happens to prevent it from coming out on time.

I think CCP could use a pat on the back every so often. They get enough hate. I'd imagine working extra hours to make sure something is done correctly before a deadline is rough when the people you are doing it for are largely ungrateful over it.

Players need actual content they can skill into, otherwise they are going to be burnt out in a bad way. Enhancing features is nice but it's not quite the same; I find it amusing that they can roll out whole packs of AUR weapons/gear (yes, I know it's cosmetic) which tells me they know how important 'new' content is - important enough where players are going to be spending real life money on something 'new', even when its not. To me, this is them taking advantage of the lack of real, solid game content.

They've have been working for nothing, to give us all this wonderful stuff.

I have to say, this community is mean.

No, not mean. They just can't have fun.

I played a little DUST last night, and you know what?

I had fun! I'm pretty sure a large group of the forum community have a hard time understanding that, because the seem to be too busy thinking about "oh, but we don't have the Combat Rifle! Or the Amarr Scouts!" Be happy they are giving you all this game for free! They could make you pay for it, and parcel it out in DLC packs. But they don't.

They've have been working for nothing, to give us all this wonderful stuff.

I think it's fine that they're pushing back vehicle things, since it apparently wasn't in a good place.

They've delivered a lot actually (hit detection fix in 1.4, 3 new maps, one new outpost, corp taxes, etc), seems like you're defining "anything" in a way that excludes everything except for some specific things you want.
You also seem to be forgetting that the new weapons and vehicle changes have only been delayed (probably just a month). Stop being so damn melodramatic.

All that stuff you just listed should have worked right out of beta, so after god knows how long in alpha. A year long beta where every 3 games u had to restart your start your ps.

Iinstead know we have badly balanced shooter that sort of finally works after an effect 3 years development time time.

No I'm sorry the bs we are getting now should have been in the game from the start. Dusts development has been rudderless from the start and one mistake after another. There big breakthrough no one cares about is so underused I don't get why they put so much effort into it.

EVE did what it was ment too out of the box. Dust has only just got shooting part working. I'm done with dust I'm going to spend money on games I know will work and be fun.

Dont get me wrong ccp guys are smart people but they don't get shooters. I hope they salvage dust but seeing whats coming I doubt they will do it in time.

The tldr Dust514 is a huge disappointment I'm done with

All that stuff you just listed should have worked right out of beta, so after god knows how long in alpha. A year long beta where every 3 games u had to restart your start your ps.

Iinstead know we have badly balanced shooter that sort of finally works after an effect 3 years development time time.

No I'm sorry the bs we are getting now should have been in the game from the start. Dusts development has been rudderless from the start and one mistake after another. There big breakthrough no one cares about is so underused I don't get why they put so much effort into it.

EVE did what it was ment too out of the box. Dust has only just got shooting part working. I'm done with dust I'm going to spend money on games I know will work and be fun.

Dont get me wrong ccp guys are smart people but they don't get shooters. I hope they salvage dust but seeing whats coming I doubt they will do it in time.

The tldr Dust514 is a huge disappointment I'm done with

EVE did what it was ment too out of the box.

No, you're not. You'll never -actually- be done with it, you'll just come back when a new patch comes out like everyone else. To which I say to you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WHptG35EWU

I was not there for the beginning of EVE. I have, however, spoken to those that have. It gives me hope, as does the next little segment of this post.

I believe Dust 514 will pick up. Keep in mind, everyone, that CCP has stepped into FPS with this game, not another EVE-like game. Consider this as "new territory". They are also attempting to do two things that has infuriated many on both sides of the first, and currently a number for the second. 1) Keyboard and mouse able to fight against controller, instead of a forced controller versus controller. 2) Integrate Dust 514, a shooter, with EVE, a game of a completely different... focus?... in such a way that it'll effect it (EVE).

Keep saying that after year and half of ccp failing to deliver on anything I'm normall very forgiving but it's reached the point were I have no faith in this studio. I hope the maps and building team get moved to WoD team tbh

I'm not a big EVE guy, but even I know that the game out of the box was utter sandbox with very little content. There are articles online going back ten years predicting EVE's death from lack of content. It was the player base creating their own fun that saved EVE and made it the success that it is today, not the developers. So I have to call BS whenever I read someone ranting about "all the features" Eve originally opened with. Like, lol what? Star wars Galaxies was doing bigger business than them at the time, and that game was sh*t.

Go AR or go home. Hail AR 514.

The thing is, even way back when, Eve didn't have a lot of features, but it was unique.

It was uniquely one shard, one economy, and as an MMO it was almost uniquely skill based rather than level based.

Here's what you should take home from this, not that the players can make the game - of course they can, but it takes a unique game to inspire players.

Dust is anything but unique at this point.

All that stuff you just listed should have worked right out of beta, so after god knows how long in alpha. A year long beta where every 3 games u had to restart your start your ps.

Iinstead know we have badly balanced shooter that sort of finally works after an effect 3 years development time time.

No I'm sorry the bs we are getting now should have been in the game from the start. Dusts development has been rudderless from the start and one mistake after another. There big breakthrough no one cares about is so underused I don't get why they put so much effort into it.

EVE did what it was ment too out of the box. Dust has only just got shooting part working. I'm done with dust I'm going to spend money on games I know will work and be fun.

Dont get me wrong ccp guys are smart people but they don't get shooters. I hope they salvage dust but seeing whats coming I doubt they will do it in time.

The tldr Dust514 is a huge disappointment I'm done with

How are you having fun? Why are you giving CCP thanks? They have failed to fix major core mechanics such as AIMING. This game has been out for what, two years? How can they not get something as vital as aiming right? I'm not a programmer, but is it really THAT hard to get it right?


Is it not possible to give us more control over the sensitvity and acceleration? Why are we so limited, why?

I want to shotgun, but the slow aiming gets me killed and frustrated. It simply is not feasible nor fun to play for more than one match. I haven't played this game for a week, and all my boosters have run out. I refuse to buy more until aiming is fixed. Stop crapping on DS3 users, enough is enough.

And for the idiots saying, "but you have aim assist derps derpity da derp derp", it's not enough! Certain actions disable AA, leaving you in manual aiming mode. When that happens you are gimped with several weapons because the aiming is just not there.

COD and Battlefield have fanatstic aiming, take off AA on those games, and it's still very good to aim. Come back to DUST and you'll be angry, because you know when you get killed 99% of the time it's not your fault, it's the crappy aiming system in this game and CCP's constant blind eye to the subject.

CCP, stop for the love of all that is holy-ignoring aiming. It's the elephant in the room, it's right there, but patch after patch I see nothing done about it. I don't care about aim assist, I WANT better aiming! That's it, that's all I want to see done, can this not be done?

Please, please, please fix this. I can take getting shot at by multiple tanks, I can take facing multiple sqauds of full proto in Ambush, but what I can't handle anymore is this subpar- Dollar Store aiming mechanic(s). Please fix this, please?

Those of us who are a bit more civil understand that the development process is rough and considering that you guys have been doing rapid-fire updates for a few months now, it's sad to see a delay in the features when there is obviously a lot of working being done.

One of the biggest things that has the community downtrodden is the lack of the communication and considering that there was time taken to inform us of the features that have been delayed, as well as the fact that you're going to be receiving feedback on what features are coming, I'd say that there's been enormous steps taken to quell that.

Despite some of the more extremist players who resort to berating developers or CCP as a whole (I've even been guilty of this in the past) there is some good intentions buried in the immature behavior - we all want the same thing: Dust 514 to prosper and be the most invigorating, player-focused and most importantly: player-altered FPS experience available.

So, here's to CCP for making changes for the better. Communication is always a better option than being left in the dark.

Not really we need core content features ASAP both dropsuits and vehicles. To hell with game fixes.

How are you having fun? Why are you giving CCP thanks? They have failed to fix major core mechanics such as AIMING. This game has been out for what, two years? How can they not get something as vital as aiming right? I'm not a programmer, but is it really THAT hard to get it right?

Exactly. When i see people comparing Dust with CoD and BF i think: "CoD and BF HAVE to be better than Dust, they are in the market, if my memory is correct, nearly for a decade or more . The biggest change CoD had was with CoD 4, and now they are farming the same formula every year. How could it fail? The gap between BF 2 to 3, in console, was huuge.And yet, BF 4 will have some little innovation (Like "Levolution").

QFT.

An no, they haven't delivered much in a year and a half.

Also, Eve Online was not that great in it's first conception. I started in Red Moon Rising and I have to say that the UI was terrible for the time, if you could even muster up the courage to make sense of it. Before the bit scamming incidents that made CCP decide that griefing/scamming wasn't covered by the EULA - it was just minecraft in space. Losing a battleship actually meant something because you had to spend all day mining the resources to obtain it.

Despite popular belief all the "races" - well, bloodlines rather - weren't in game until later. The Vherokior for instance, they didn't exist until then. Hell, missions didn't exist. A lot of the ships didn't exist and overall it was bland as hell. It didn't just start out amazing. It didn't even become the modern "Eve Online" until Apocrypha and you can bet your ass that there were a lot of people mad as ever when they decided that Eve Online was a harsh environment where players could screw each other over - so much they actually lost a great deal of subscribers.

They gained a bunch too, but it didn't happen over night. It wasn't like that from the very beginning - it was crafted and sculpted that way.



Listen. I played Eve Online for a long time. I started with Red Moon Rising and then I left because I didn't like it. I came back around the Apocrypha/Dominion expansion and since then I've had a blast. It's the only game I find myself coming back to no matter what. Maybe, instead of complaining about all the things that aren't there, you -SHOULD- go play a different game and relax a bit.

Dust is still going to be here when you get back and it's only going to get better with time, whether you believe it or not.

Why does it seem like you have more fun complaining on the forums then playing the game?

Why aren't you playing CoD and Battlefield then?

Perhaps because this game is nothing like them?

You are a confusing person.

Hey ****tard- did you even read my post? Do you even DUST bro?

Aiming for DS3 is atrocious, simple as that. If you can't see that for yourself then I suggest you go back to school. Christ Lord the idiots on this forum....... Can't tell if you're an alt either.

Those of us who are a bit more civil understand that the development process is rough and considering that you guys have been doing rapid-fire updates for a few months now, it's sad to see a delay in the features when there is obviously a lot of working being done.

One of the biggest things that has the community downtrodden is the lack of the communication and considering that there was time taken to inform us of the features that have been delayed, as well as the fact that you're going to be receiving feedback on what features are coming, I'd say that there's been enormous steps taken to quell that.

Despite some of the more extremist players who resort to berating developers or CCP as a whole (I've even been guilty of this in the past) there is some good intentions buried in the immature behavior - we all want the same thing: Dust 514 to prosper and be the most invigorating, player-focused and most importantly: player-altered FPS experience available.

So, here's to CCP for making changes for the better. Communication is always a better option than being left in the dark.

I wish they'd lay out a solid roadmap, I play a f2p MMOrpg and they have a solid road map. They deliver on time as well.

As for the "hit detection" fix in 1.4, yeah, great hit detection fix, glad it only worked for ARs and scrambler weapons.

Ug the wounders of poor mental heath, just want to day while I think my points are valid the anger was not heh. I just hope ccp focuses on things we want fancy cool gameplay and not a link most people will never see. EVE dust link should be long term making dust fun on its own two feet must be the priority