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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
791
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Posted - 2013.09.17 21:11:00 -
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FlavorOf TheMonth wrote:
The MD is easy to counter with the AR just shoot from distance or close range stay out of mid range with this weapon
AR over MD
HMG just LOL if you get to close or are surprised around a corner a HMg is easily taken out from long range and med range and with a little dancing in close range as we well.
AR over HMG
Shotgun really all you have to do is stay out of Shotgun range or backpedal dance and shotgunners go down easy especially if in a scout suit.
AR over shotgun in close and med, and long range.
laser rifle puts up a fight a little at max range but not much AR with a bit of dancing beats laser, obviously a laser has no chance at close or med range
AR over Lazer all day.
So please tell me which weapon is better in all situations?
Pick up an AR or be happy being rifle fodder your choice
Notice I said the MD does it's job well. It is supposed to be countered by the AR derp!
Then why do I get 25+ kills with an average of 5 deaths in 3 out of 4 matches I play with my HMG Heavy? HMG Beasts the AR in the right situations!
Shotgun beasts the AR in extreme CQC! Is this not its intended role? Correct me if I'm wrong... Also, I played around with my free Hunter Scouts with a MLT Shotgun fitted on them. I did not get killed one single time by an AR. I have no skills in profile dampening, range amp, or scan precision, and was not using a Scanner. I also have no skills in Light Suits or Shotgun.
I played around with my Neo Assaults and Burnstalk Laser, just for Lawls. I did much better than I expected having no skills in the LR and it being the first time I ever used one. I would say 18/6 isn't too bad. What about you?
Maybe scrubbery needs a major nerf? |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1734
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Posted - 2013.09.17 21:16:00 -
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FlavorOf TheMonth wrote:So what do you Use an AR? That's why you defend it because you wouldn't be any good without it.
my main is not here he is playing GTAV
I use AR, Shotgun and and Sub machine gun. Each one good in it's own situation.
I'll leave you alone for now because you're most likely a sore newberry or a shield tanking vet that's sad because the game has changed out of his favor.
GTA is probably more your speed anyway from what I'm seeing. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1311
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Posted - 2013.09.17 21:18:00 -
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I was using the proto AScR last night rocking two complex damage mods, and that thing tears people up at a surprising rate. However it's really only useful for close-up shots, as it kicks like a mule and makes longer distance shots very impractical (which at the same range, is extremely easy to pull off with the AR).
Other than the lack of a RDS, the AR beats it hands down in every area. And for whatever reason, the proto AScR costs almost twice as much as the Duvolle. |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.09.17 21:27:00 -
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-yawns- I fear scrambler rifles way more. |
pyramidhead 420
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2013.09.17 21:36:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:pyramidhead 420 wrote:what would this game be like, if the tac ar and the burst rifle, were the only options in the ar category? i think the gunplay would be 10x better, and put more emphasis on tactics. I think you just get killed a lot and your feelings are hurt.
sure kid, my feelings are just so hurt. im simply asking what people think the game would play like without, full auto ar's. |
Corum Irsie
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
43
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Posted - 2013.09.17 22:38:00 -
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The ar is and always will be the most common weapon you will see on the field, why cry about it? Suck it up buttercup, now get out there and die some more. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
6000
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Posted - 2013.09.17 22:44:00 -
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When have ARs NOT been the FoTM? |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
494
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Posted - 2013.09.17 22:48:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:mid range combat, yes. Outside of its general parameters, no.
It's most likely you're confusing getting killed by AR rifles constantly with them being op.
I'd like to make mention that the Scrambler rifle is a bigger beast to worry about than the AR in the wrong suit.
Example, I wouldn't see flux nades as a problem on the field because I'm gallente Assault and have no shields to begin with. A shield user however will run away when a flux is cast.
Catch my drift?
Wait until the combat rifle comes out. I'll love the see the forums then.
What damage base will those Combat Rifles have? Hybrid? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
517
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Posted - 2013.09.17 22:57:00 -
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The ar needs to become the GAR, this will hopefully happen when the combat and rail rifles are released. Besides, my combination of flux, md and careful planning still comes up top!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
517
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:01:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:FlavorOf TheMonth wrote:
The MD is easy to counter with the AR just shoot from distance or close range stay out of mid range with this weapon
AR over MD
HMG just LOL if you get to close or are surprised around a corner a HMg is easily taken out from long range and med range and with a little dancing in close range as we well.
AR over HMG
Shotgun really all you have to do is stay out of Shotgun range or backpedal dance and shotgunners go down easy especially if in a scout suit.
AR over shotgun in close and med, and long range.
laser rifle puts up a fight a little at max range but not much AR with a bit of dancing beats laser, obviously a laser has no chance at close or med range
AR over Lazer all day.
So please tell me which weapon is better in all situations?
Pick up an AR or be happy being rifle fodder your choice
Notice I said the MD does it's job well. It is supposed to be countered by the AR derp! Then why do I get 25+ kills with an average of 5 deaths in 3 out of 4 matches I play with my HMG Heavy? HMG Beasts the AR in the right situations! Shotgun beasts the AR in extreme CQC! Is this not its intended role? Correct me if I'm wrong... Also, I played around with my free Hunter Scouts with a MLT Shotgun fitted on them. I did not get killed one single time by an AR. I have no skills in profile dampening, range amp, or scan precision, and was not using a Scanner. I also have no skills in Light Suits or Shotgun. I played around with my Neo Assaults and Burnstalk Laser, just for Lawls. I did much better than I expected having no skills in the LR and it being the first time I ever used one. I would say 18/6 isn't too bad. What about you? Maybe scrubbery needs a major nerf?
Hold on the short/mid range minmatar weapon (MD), should be outclassed by the short range full auto ar? Do you just stand there and expect to out dps an ar? |
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Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
758
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:27:00 -
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FlavorOf TheMonth wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:people still crying about aimbot? It's more of an obstacle than an assistance. I turned that crap of it was a joke.
Maybe you're just bad?
Also post on your main. Oh so an you blame it on the Aim assist? All I'm saying is the AR beats any other weapon on the field except Sniper and AV. tell me it doesn't?
It doesn't... |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
40
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:47:00 -
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This is getting annoying!
What do you think all military troops use an assault rifle?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3203
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:50:00 -
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They have been for as long as I've played.
You need to just about master non-ARs in order to compete with an AR |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
257
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Posted - 2013.09.18 00:25:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:The ar needs to become the GAR, this will hopefully happen when the combat and rail rifles are released. Besides, my combination of flux, md and careful planning still comes up top!! Well duh, with me and ANY combination you'll come up top |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
927
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Posted - 2013.09.18 00:36:00 -
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People just realized it?
It's been exactly like this for the last year. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
285
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Posted - 2013.09.18 00:40:00 -
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AR is good to 70m,wait till be get rail rifles and combat rifles that ARE designed for mid range engagements(90-100+m). |
Synbot
Expert Intervention Caldari State
127
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:10:00 -
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Yes, that's right! Even the mighty Jovians will quiver and shake at just the thought of us! The Gallente will bow down to us, Amarrians proclaim us as the Lord, we create a corporation in Caldari that sells Caldari! And of course the Minmatar would wish they were enslaved by us. Mwamwamwamwaaa |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
512
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:16:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:people still crying about aimbot? It's more of an obstacle than an assistance. I turned that crap of it was a joke.
Maybe you're just bad?
Also post on your main.
Wow, you are so excellent that even the aimbot slows you down. I tip my hat to you, sir. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
512
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:17:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:AR is good to 70m,wait till be get rail rifles and combat rifles that ARE designed for mid range engagements(90-100+m).
70 m is CQC? |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
512
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:19:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:This is getting annoying!
What do you think all military troops use an assault rifle?
Exactly! And why do you think they all kill a lot more than they die... why, they also all got kick - S KDR. Loving them IRL comparisons! |
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
512
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:21:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Oh look another AR thread... and probably all started by the same guy. i see op is on a brand new character
That's because he is a noob who logged in on Dust for the very first 20 min and had such a strong impression from AR OP-ness that he felt compelled to go to the forums and make his very first thread. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
512
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:22:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:FlavorOf TheMonth wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:people still crying about aimbot? It's more of an obstacle than an assistance. I turned that crap of it was a joke.
Maybe you're just bad?
Also post on your main. Oh so an you blame it on the Aim assist? All I'm saying is the AR beats any other weapon on the field except Sniper and AV. tell me it doesn't? GÇó SMG at close quarters will **** even a proto duvolle user up GÇó Shotgun scout GÇó Proto scrambler pistol in trained hands GÇó RE baiting GÇó Assault scrambler rifle GÇó Mass driver in the hands of someone with any skill GÇó TANKS GÇó Proto Nova knife scout with speed mods GÇó Almost any form of laser rifle above militia GÇó etc..... Need I go on?
This reply so deluded that I don't even know where to start. |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
258
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:31:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Flux Raeder wrote:FlavorOf TheMonth wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:people still crying about aimbot? It's more of an obstacle than an assistance. I turned that crap of it was a joke.
Maybe you're just bad?
Also post on your main. Oh so an you blame it on the Aim assist? All I'm saying is the AR beats any other weapon on the field except Sniper and AV. tell me it doesn't? GÇó SMG at close quarters will **** even a proto duvolle user up GÇó Shotgun scout GÇó Proto scrambler pistol in trained hands GÇó RE baiting GÇó Assault scrambler rifle GÇó Mass driver in the hands of someone with any skill GÇó TANKS GÇó Proto Nova knife scout with speed mods GÇó Almost any form of laser rifle above militia GÇó etc..... Need I go on? This reply so deluded that I don't even know where to start. Well I'd just LOVE to hear your opinion so why don't you try to figure that out?
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1096
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:38:00 -
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Stop it with the foolishness. Any FPS MP title has the majority playing infantry roles and what comes with that is ARs. It's what I go for any title. You can't convince us of abandoning of our weapon of choice. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:50:00 -
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FlavorOf TheMonth wrote:With the new patch The only weapon worth playing is the AR. Yes some of the other weapons are fun and the Av weapons are useful but overall is their any weapon that has a role the AR cant dominate in besides AV and sniper?
What about Laser Rifles on Assault shield tanks?
What about Mass Drivers 1-shot?
What about Forge Gun snipers?
This is a pointless QQ thread with no real substance. |
dustwaffle
Commando Perkone Caldari State
554
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:57:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:This reply so deluded that I don't even know where to start. Well I'd just LOVE to hear your opinion so why don't you try to figure that out? Because he's trying to farm likes with one-liners, that aren't all that funny in the first place, and failing. Kinda like this post. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
417
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:12:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:
...This is a pointless QQ thread with no real substance.
Haha you make me laugh Athena, you really do. |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
258
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:00:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:What do you think all military troops use an assault rifle? Damn FOTM users Flux Raeder wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:This reply so deluded that I don't even know where to start. Well I'd just LOVE to hear your opinion so why don't you try to figure that out? Because he's trying to farm likes with one-liners, that aren't all that funny in the first place, and failing. Kinda like this post. And you're just a freakin riot. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
285
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Posted - 2013.09.18 04:07:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:AR is good to 70m,wait till be get rail rifles and combat rifles that ARE designed for mid range engagements(90-100+m). 70 m is CQC? to CCP it is |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
520
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Posted - 2013.09.18 07:13:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:AR is good to 70m,wait till be get rail rifles and combat rifles that ARE designed for mid range engagements(90-100+m). 70 m is CQC?
WOW!! Then my mass driver has terrible range, the rounds blow up at about 80m
The AR has 30-40m optimal and 70m effective, when it becomes the GAR itl have 25m optimal, and about 30-40m effective, this will keep its dps low outside of short range!!
Itll also be funny to see people who still think the can outrange a hmg with a GAR |
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