With the new patch The only weapon worth playing is the AR.
Yes some of the other weapons are fun and the Av weapons are useful but overall is their any weapon that has a role the AR cant dominate in besides AV and sniper?

I have killed a Duvolle recently with a Scrambler Pistol. Standard. Anything can stop an AR in proper hands. People seemed to have forgotten what skill was.

Ohh.. so now an aimbot is "Skills" right ? I dare you to that with the aim-assist off, lets see how much "skills" you have then.

Is funny how all suddenly we have all this unknown Pro's emerging out of their Scrub Caves .

I don't use AA. I've been anti-AA for a while. Controller, dawg. Doesn't need an assist, even against a mouse. Controllers are superior close quarters. I wonder when people will realize that...

Never ? Truth is, a bad mouse user always going to be beaten by a good DS3 user, and the other way around. The aimbot was unnecessary, and have make good mouse and DS3 users leave the game. After all, who enjoys getting kill by a Scrub because the "I win Button" ? No One. I don't feel like having to play 110% all the time, to compete against unskilled, noobish Scrubs.

No one has left, there is no drop for .4

[quote=Monkey MAC]

In case you didn't notice, ALL mouse user leaved in Uprising, as soon as CCP started the "Virtual Joystick" concept. Is only few of us around, hoping that one day will be allow to use the mouse properly again. But i personally running out of patients, and so is others. The aimbot is a low blow for mouse users, you could even say that is the final blow.

So your unhappy the kb/m input is being passed through an emulator first, you want raw input, why?

You have any idea how stupid that sounds ? Is like trying to emulate the mouse input with a Joystick. A mouse is a mouse full stop, if CCP wants to support KB/M in Dust 514, it have to be EXACTLY that. The concept of using a MOUSE in a console is revolutionary, unique, special... not a ******* disease !

But, i'm tired of trying...running out of energy with this crap...CCP is destroying the thing that could make Dust 514 popular and unique. Is their ******* problem.

If COD and battlefield on pc are actually supportive of the sony controller, on a windows platform that is news to me!
Now the main reason kb/m users don't complain is because on pc 2 people of equal skill level, will vary based on the gear they have.

The controller has physical drawbacks by comparison, sure a guy with a controller can indeed whale on few noobs with it, but you will never see a controller being used for competition.

And dont forget counterstrike was orginally a pc game, and was built from that, they merely had to add in the controller input modifications/bindings etc.

Im not saying you shouldn't get rsw input, but you have to consider what will happen when you do!

The DS3 have been compatible with the PC for long time, and so is the Xbox controller.

You even have Professional Gamepads for the PC ;

http://www.speedlink.com/?p=2&cat=4315&pid=25493&paus=1

http://wirelesspcgamepad.com/ ( lots in this link )

You guys really have NOT idea what you talking about.

Didn't they hotfix AA?

Please don't assume that I don't know what im talking about, that is a custom controller, or personalized or what ever you want to call it. But that is hardware, the software still doesn't actually support the raw input of a controller, its emulated!!

Im studying this kinda stuff at uni, dont tell me I don't know anything!

They confirmed they didn't change it.

of course is emulated ... the gamepad itself is a keyboard / mouse emulator, even in consoles. The mouse represents movement in a 3D environment in the purest of forms. The gamepad is trying to be a replacement for the mouse, not something better. The way we develop Software will have to completely change before the mouse input can be successively replace.

The mouse is 2D movement, in consoles the controller does not emulate a keyboard and mouse, the programming is similar, but is not emulated! Also the fact the ps3 dualshock, uses analog input you end up with a completly different ball game all together. In this instance, the kb/m digital input, has to be emulated in analouge then back to digital.

This why the ps systems were revolutionary, analogue input into a digital system is ground breaking, by gaming standards at least!

The mouse is 2D movement, in consoles the controller does not emulate a keyboard and mouse, the programming is similar, but is not emulated! Also the fact the ps3 dualshock, uses analog input you end up with a completly different ball game all together. In this instance, the kb/m digital input, has to be emulated in analouge then back to digital.

This why the ps systems were revolutionary, analogue input into a digital system is ground breaking, by gaming standards at least!

Every single game is developed in a PC and then ported to the Console... do i need to say anything else ?

Yes actually your gonna need to say a lot more!! Games are developed on pc because only pc's have enough power to COMPILE code, that and the operating system on a console isn't designed with a development interface!! They aren't ported to the consoles, they are built for the consoles, its just a console doesn't have the resources to build it from there!!

I might mention as well, if ALL games were ported from the PC why were games like metal gear solid, ported to the pc, surely they wouldn't have to be?

[quote=Monkey MAC]

A gaming Console IS a Computer, but restricted to JUST gaming. You could say that is a ;

Gaming Computer with universal hardware, and build in software to support gaming exclusively.

A Console is just a replacement for a Computer... nothing else.

True a console is a "computer" my phone is a "computer" my car has a "computer" in it. But that doesn't answer my question, why should a console accept "raw input" from an input device not native to the system?

Another way of trying to get across what im saying is, why should a ps3 allow direct input from an xbox controller?

The mouse and Keyboard are a critical component of any computer. Pretty hard to use a computer without a mouse, IMPOSSIBLE to use without a keyboard. Gaming consoles try to get around this problem with Virtual Keyboards, and custom build software.. but the principals still are the same.

I going to be a bit bold right now and say ... Consoles, phones, tablets, all that stuff are Computer Emulators. In fact, every future technology is going to always be a Computer Simulation.

[quote=Banning Hammer][quote=Monkey MAC]

You are applying the term computer to literally, you are assuming a computer is like the one sat in your back room, this is a marketing ploy.

A computer is merely an assortment of hardware and software, capable of repeating a task consistently many times.

The keyboard and mouse is actually a rather new invention, it was invented only 30-40 years ago. Yet "computers" have been around much longer. The first home computer cost -ú100 it didn't have a screen a keyboard or a mouse, just a seriesmof switches. So really a keyboard is just a simulation of switches!

So I am petioning for CCP to accept a 5+ù5 wall of switches as valid input as well!!

And you have yet to actually answer my question, all you have done is tell me that kb/m should be accepted because its a computer, that isn't sufficent!