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CharCharOdell wrote:

The Attorney General wrote:

No, I don't think Charlotte is scared really, just pushing for a dynamic that would preclude having to face certain tankers early on.

Charlotte doesn't want to run into Bob in an early round, or have to rail snipe versus Void, etc.

I gave credit where it was due and called it a wise decision, but it would be very unwise of those of us who want a real tourney to support his thinking.

After more thought, I am leaning towards pairs being the biggest unit, and only if we can't come up with a workable way to do solo matches.

Bob and I are the best generalist tankers there are and I'm confident in that. We win by fighting our enemies with the weapons we don't have. Bob and I have tied every time we duel- every time since chrome. Our styles are almost exactly the same and that's why he's my favorite person to fight (no good counter to him)

I'm still on the fence about how to do the teams though. Not sure if everyone should get the chance to be on a team with one cup, or multiple cups. Perhaps an all-star cup with a 40 million buy in and a secondary cup with no buy in to desperate the new tankers from the vets.

Or if only people who win the specific tank build duels should get to compete.

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The Attorney General ZionTCD 943	Posted - 2013.09.19 07:39:00 - [61] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: ^How would you propose we have 24 tankers face off in a tourney without 2 tankers having redline rail duels? Blasters only? Not fair to shields. No redline sniping? Nobody can know where there own redline is. Tankers start from under their MCC. There are three rounds. Rail Missile Blaster What is needed is some sort of centrally placeable object, either infantry or vehicle to serve as a contesting point. So either there is a specific infantry that can be killed somewhere in the large socket, or a vehicle that can be destroyed, something. Tankers can win be either destroying the other tank, or making it to the central object and destroying it after x amount of seconds have passed. There are other variations of this, one could be found that would work. Finally, you use the total average of all three rounds to seed tankers for the next round. And maybe a round time limit.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 943	Posted - 2013.09.19 07:40:00 - [62] - Quote Also, don't pretend like we don't know where the redline is. I'm pretty sure most of us could draw pretty accurate maps of where the redline is if we had to.
ragewardog SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 43	Posted - 2013.09.19 09:13:00 - [63] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110865&find=unread not in 1.5 cause like always ccp loves tanks
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 893	Posted - 2013.09.19 13:25:00 - [64] - Quote Perhaps a modified version of skirmish would be proper. Each team gets six tanks and two dismounts. The dismounts must wear a militia heavy suit (unmodded) with a scrambler pistol. The goal of the game is to play skirmish, however, only the dismounts can hack. ^How is this? It discourages using a team of all rails, because using a blaster or missile tank to transport infantry gives more security, if it gets attacked by another brawler at close range- where it cannot hide out of the redline. It is also more efficvient to have 2 transport tanks, rather than one, because only one point can be hacked at a time by one grunt, so hacking 2 with 2 different tanks is better. Rails are still usable, but more of an over watch than anything, and missile will play a part as specialized transport killers.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 15	Posted - 2013.09.19 13:35:00 - [65] - Quote I say we add another person who uses Logistics LAVs to make things interesting
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 893	Posted - 2013.09.19 13:36:00 - [66] - Quote Atiim wrote: I say we add another person who uses Logistics LAVs to make things interesting NO!
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative.. 849	Posted - 2013.09.19 15:06:00 - [67] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Perhaps a modified version of skirmish would be proper. Each team gets six tanks and two dismounts. The dismounts must wear a militia heavy suit (unmodded) with a scrambler pistol. And heres me thinking this was supposed to be a tank tournament. A tank tournament to find out who is top, but by putting some of the top players all in the same group is going to prove nothing. It should be 1v1 or at most 2v2 with winners going on to the next stage and losers fighting eachother. Stop over complicating things and start fighting.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1197	Posted - 2013.09.19 15:20:00 - [68] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Perhaps a modified version of skirmish would be proper. Each team gets six tanks and two dismounts. The dismounts must wear a militia heavy suit (unmodded) with a scrambler pistol. And heres me thinking this was supposed to be a tank tournament. A tank tournament to find out who is top, but by putting some of the top players all in the same group is going to prove nothing. It should be 1v1 or at most 2v2 with winners going on to the next stage and losers fighting eachother. Stop over complicating things and start fighting. Yeah, I think Char is scared that someone will beat them...
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 893	Posted - 2013.09.19 15:53:00 - [69] - Quote I'm just brainstorming BC we have a while to plan this. We don't even have enough players, yet. Another possibility is to have several competitions: Best shield rail Best shield blaster Best shield missile Best armor rail Best armor blaster Best armor missile Best armor tanker (any turret) Best shield tanker (any turret) Best all around (any build) Best tank team (must field 2 rail, 2 blaster, 2 missile---best average KDR combined through team wins) Tankers will sign up for up for one specific build duel and team (optional). This makes the tourney shorter. The reason doing this tourney now is a bad idea is that the disparity between armor and shields in 1 v 1 duels puts shield tankers at a disadvantage. If we so it now, armor tankers have a better chance of winning and that is not fair. Other possibilities: Best shield tanker Best armor tanker Best team
The Attorney General ZionTCD 949	Posted - 2013.09.19 15:55:00 - [70] - Quote No, I don't think Charlotte is scared really, just pushing for a dynamic that would preclude having to face certain tankers early on. Charlotte doesn't want to run into Bob in an early round, or have to rail snipe versus Void, etc. I gave credit where it was due and called it a wise decision, but it would be very unwise of those of us who want a real tourney to support his thinking. After more thought, I am leaning towards pairs being the biggest unit, and only if we can't come up with a workable way to do solo matches.

Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1198	Posted - 2013.09.19 16:01:00 - [71] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: I'm just brainstorming BC we have a while to plan this. We don't even have enough players, yet. Another possibility is to have 4 competitions: Best shield rail Best shield blaster Best shield missile Best armor rail Best armor blaster Best armor missile Best armor tanker (any turret) Best shield tanker (any turret) Best all around (any build) Best tank team (must field 2 rail, 2 blaster, 2 missile---best average KDR combined through team wins) The reason doing this tourney now is a bad idea is that the disparity between armor and shields in 1 v 1 duels puts shield tankers at a disadvantage. If we so it now, armor tankers have a better chance of winning and that is not fair. Other possibilities: Best shield tanker Best armor tanker Best team Sure, run one 1v1 tourney and 1 team tourney with 5 man teams (I can only get 5 people per squad plus our people who are there to make sure that no one goes nuts need in (basicallly 6 guys with Ishi AFGs and Wyri SLs )) really need to wait til 1.6 if we want fair fights
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 893	Posted - 2013.09.19 16:24:00 - [72] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: No, I don't think Charlotte is scared really, just pushing for a dynamic that would preclude having to face certain tankers early on. Charlotte doesn't want to run into Bob in an early round, or have to rail snipe versus Void, etc. I gave credit where it was due and called it a wise decision, but it would be very unwise of those of us who want a real tourney to support his thinking. After more thought, I am leaning towards pairs being the biggest unit, and only if we can't come up with a workable way to do solo matches. Bob and I are the best generalist tankers there are and I'm confident in that. We win by fighting our enemies with the weapons we don't have. Bob and I have tied every time we duel- every time since chrome. Our styles are almost exactly the same and that's why he's my favorite person to fight (no good counter to him) I'm still on the fence about how to do the teams though. Not sure if everyone should get the chance to be on a team with one cup, or multiple cups. Perhaps an all-star cup with a 40 million buy in and a secondary cup with no buy in to desperate the new tankers from the vets. Or if only people who win the specific tank build duels should get to compete.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1200	Posted - 2013.09.19 16:31:00 - [73] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: The Attorney General wrote: No, I don't think Charlotte is scared really, just pushing for a dynamic that would preclude having to face certain tankers early on. Charlotte doesn't want to run into Bob in an early round, or have to rail snipe versus Void, etc. I gave credit where it was due and called it a wise decision, but it would be very unwise of those of us who want a real tourney to support his thinking. After more thought, I am leaning towards pairs being the biggest unit, and only if we can't come up with a workable way to do solo matches. Bob and I are the best generalist tankers there are and I'm confident in that. We win by fighting our enemies with the weapons we don't have. Bob and I have tied every time we duel- every time since chrome. Our styles are almost exactly the same and that's why he's my favorite person to fight (no good counter to him) I'm still on the fence about how to do the teams though. Not sure if everyone should get the chance to be on a team with one cup, or multiple cups. Perhaps an all-star cup with a 40 million buy in and a secondary cup with no buy in to desperate the new tankers from the vets. Or if only people who win the specific tank build duels should get to compete. We'll need to talk in-game, how about you come to a T-Dome and we'll do some 1v1's and talk before or after about the tank tourney...
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 894	Posted - 2013.09.19 16:44:00 - [74] - Quote I work tonight. Friday, I suppose.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1202	Posted - 2013.09.19 20:21:00 - [75] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: I work tonight. Friday, I suppose. Okay, Pacific, Central or Eastern? Morning, Afternoon, Evening, Night I'll be on tommorrow and Saturday evening/night EST
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 912	Posted - 2013.09.19 22:09:00 - [76] - Quote Friday afternoon pacific. On all day Saturday
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1443	Posted - 2013.09.20 05:56:00 - [77] - Quote il be online also, il get a little in this circle of division.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1443	Posted - 2013.09.20 05:57:00 - [78] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: No, I don't think Charlotte is scared really, just pushing for a dynamic that would preclude having to face certain tankers early on. Charlotte doesn't want to run into Bob in an early round, or have to rail snipe versus Void, etc. I gave credit where it was due and called it a wise decision, but it would be very unwise of those of us who want a real tourney to support his thinking. After more thought, I am leaning towards pairs being the biggest unit, and only if we can't come up with a workable way to do solo matches. hehehe my rail bite is a nasty *****...
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1443	Posted - 2013.09.20 06:11:00 - [79] - Quote I don't care if we end up having teams or doing all out FFAs.. I just want to see who the best of us is.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 997	Posted - 2013.09.20 12:47:00 - [80] - Quote Void Echo wrote: I don't care if we end up having teams or doing all out FFAs.. I just want to see who the best of us is. This.

Porkchop Samitches Red Star Jr. EoN. 0	Posted - 2013.09.20 12:52:00 - [81] - Quote I wanna sign up for w/e team is available. I have a logitank, and a pretty good solo tank fit. If I don't pan out I guess it'll be fun to blow me up lol
General John Ripper teamplayers EoN. 2591	Posted - 2013.09.20 16:14:00 - [82] - Quote Can I sign up? Keep in mind that this will be my absolute first time tanking EVER and I will be using the cheapest of all tanks since I have almost no skill points into it. Free money if you bet on the other guy.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1215	Posted - 2013.09.20 16:22:00 - [83] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Can I sign up? Keep in mind that this will be my absolute first time tanking EVER and I will be using the cheapest of all tanks since I have almost no skill points into it. Free money if you bet on the other guy. Sure...
Covert Clay No Free Pass 70	Posted - 2013.09.20 17:10:00 - [84] - Quote Porkchop Samitches wrote: I wanna sign up for w/e team is available. I have a logitank, and a pretty good solo tank fit. If I don't pan out I guess it'll be fun to blow me up lol Hey prokchop, if I told them who your alt was I'm afraid they wouldn't let you in XD
GodHands9 GTI Black Phoenix Mercenaries 0	Posted - 2013.09.20 17:15:00 - [85] - Quote I'M GAME..I'll rip it up
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 929	Posted - 2013.09.20 17:34:00 - [86] - Quote Covert Clay wrote: Porkchop Samitches wrote: I wanna sign up for w/e team is available. I have a logitank, and a pretty good solo tank fit. If I don't pan out I guess it'll be fun to blow me up lol Hey prokchop, if I told them who your alt was I'm afraid they wouldn't let you in XD I'm afraid of Red Star tankers, tbh. They're all pretty good, from what I've seen during the LOI V EON war.
Covert Clay No Free Pass 70	Posted - 2013.09.20 17:44:00 - [87] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Covert Clay wrote: Porkchop Samitches wrote: I wanna sign up for w/e team is available. I have a logitank, and a pretty good solo tank fit. If I don't pan out I guess it'll be fun to blow me up lol Hey prokchop, if I told them who your alt was I'm afraid they wouldn't let you in XD I'm afraid of Red Star tankers, tbh. They're all pretty good, from what I've seen during the LOI V EON war. I'm still RS BTW. NFP is the tourney team I'm on currently
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 929	Posted - 2013.09.20 17:51:00 - [88] - Quote Covert Clay wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Covert Clay wrote: Porkchop Samitches wrote: I wanna sign up for w/e team is available. I have a logitank, and a pretty good solo tank fit. If I don't pan out I guess it'll be fun to blow me up lol Hey prokchop, if I told them who your alt was I'm afraid they wouldn't let you in XD I'm afraid of Red Star tankers, tbh. They're all pretty good, from what I've seen during the LOI V EON war. I'm still RS BTW. NFP is the tourney team I'm on currently Exactly. Certain Corps just do tanks better than others. I so proud to be of the Pink Fluffy Lineage :) My tank fits are still very similar to what I used in Chrome (shield tanks)
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1216	Posted - 2013.09.20 19:29:00 - [89] - Quote Covert Clay wrote: Porkchop Samitches wrote: I wanna sign up for w/e team is available. I have a logitank, and a pretty good solo tank fit. If I don't pan out I guess it'll be fun to blow me up lol Hey prokchop, if I told them who your alt was I'm afraid they wouldn't let you in XD Tell us I'm in charge, and am pretty open to people.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 935	Posted - 2013.09.20 20:46:00 - [90] - Quote So....bacon?



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