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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:19:00 -
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no more useless sniper camping on a spot far away getting 2 kills per game and do nothing else. there are plenty of good sniper spots, working as intended.
also there is something calling risk vs. reward. if you fully expect to get rewarded by staying in safety all day long and getting a few kills then you are truly a scrub and just insulted your own intelligence. wake up and get out of your tunnelvision. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
555
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Posted - 2013.09.17 13:26:00 -
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90 meter is definately NOT TAC AR spot. TAC AR can deal a bit of damage at such ranges but killing someone is a different story. tac deals around 45% of its damage at 90 meters. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.17 13:37:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Jack McReady wrote:90 meter is definately NOT TAC AR spot. TAC AR can deal a bit of damage at such ranges but killing someone is a different story. tac deals around 45% of its damage at 90 meters. Well 90m is plenty fine for an Imperial Scrambler Rifle. o7 Look. I give up alright? I can't win this. No one likes Devil's Advocate, and an enemy of the majority is doomed to lose no matter his reasoning. My indicator said that CCP Logibro made a post on this thread, but now I can't find it. I'm guessing he changed his mind about saying anything (It probably wasn't a good thing). I give up. It is what it is alright. So whatever. Ready to lock this thread.
Imperial Scrambler rilfe deals around 30% of its damage at that range  |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
555
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Posted - 2013.09.17 15:44:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Jathniel wrote:Jack McReady wrote:90 meter is definately NOT TAC AR spot. TAC AR can deal a bit of damage at such ranges but killing someone is a different story. tac deals around 45% of its damage at 90 meters. Well 90m is plenty fine for an Imperial Scrambler Rifle. o7 Look. I give up alright? I can't win this. No one likes Devil's Advocate, and an enemy of the majority is doomed to lose no matter his reasoning. My indicator said that CCP Logibro made a post on this thread, but now I can't find it. I'm guessing he changed his mind about saying anything (It probably wasn't a good thing). I give up. It is what it is alright. So whatever. Ready to lock this thread. Imperial Scrambler rilfe deals around 30% of its damage at that range Oh right, silly me. I failed to realized that you were implying it's inefficient to use a scrambler at 90m. http://tinypic.com/r/1zc1n53/5http://tinypic.com/r/9zu78x/5I did these just for you so you can feel special. Okay darling? You're not as accurate as me, I'm a sniper remember? I forgot that I was talking to an inferior breed of player. Please pardon me.  I may have overdid it just a little. Or do you need me to just do ONE KILL for you, just so you can be absolutely sure that it's plenty lethal in the hands of an accurate sniper? *sarcasm aside* As I was saying, 90m is TAC AR and Scrambler Range (for snipers). Period, and since we are generally crouched when shooting, that means that all the DPS, whether it's at 30% or not, is going RIGHT into us, and right into you if we're shooting at you. That is NO place for a sniper rifle. As a rule of thumb, if you can kill it with a regular rifle (AR, SCR) at a given range, you don't use a sniper rifle. Period. EDIT: It's 35% btw
congratulations on finishing someone with low hp at long range, this does not make the AScr effective at that range though. it takes like 9 seconds to kill a brick tanked proto suit at that range which everyone is currently running and that is assuming every shot hits which is just no going to happen. I got a kill with plasma cannon across the whole map last weekend, applying your ret/\rded monkey logic means all snipers are doomed as soon as they spawn when a PLC is on the field.
you just insulted your own intelligence with that post. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
556
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Posted - 2013.09.17 16:07:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:
No, you just insulted YOUR own intelligence. I used an Imperial Scrambler Rifle, and downed a proto caldari with 7-8 rounds at 90+m.
I provided evidence.
Nowhere was a AScr "(assault scrambler rifle) used.
Get lost. Dumb fvck.
Just in case you DON'T understand.... the damage reduction apparently takes place across the top of your damage profile. Which is the LAST thing calculated. It does NOT reduce your BASE damage. Therefore bonus %ages are added BEFORE the reduction of damage profile at range occurs. That's why it's still so potent at range.
Here's the low down. With my proficiencies and damage mods i'm doing over 100 damage per shot vs. neutral target (neither armor nor shield). vs. shields. Now VS. SHIELDS. the +20% vs shields is calculated AFTER my proficiencies and damage mods. So lets put me about 100 damage. + 20%. 120 damage. 35% of 120? 42. Calculate headshot bonus, 7, 8, or 9 rounds.
Tell me again, that I need 9 seconds to kill someone at 90m... and make yourself look stupid... one more time. Straight
I dare you.
I double dare.
Tell me that 9 seconds is necessary, one more god-damned time.
all your provided is that you got the last hit and that you are just bad at sniping, nothing else
you dont even get the basics of math 
prot tip:
value x * bonus * penalty = value x * penatly * bonus
here is a nice article explaining to you that order in multiplications does not matter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplication
oh and headshot bonus is just 50% and you know, suits have armor too. my proto suit brick tanked has slightly over 1k ehp. with your dmg per shot at 90 meters you would overheat before you would kill me even when I assume that all my HP are shields and you would hit everything in the head
but ok, you are the pro, everyone else is wrong, your are right. I guess there is no cure for your tunnelvision. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
556
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Posted - 2013.09.17 16:25:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Jathniel wrote:
No, you just insulted YOUR own intelligence. I used an Imperial Scrambler Rifle, and downed a proto caldari with 7-8 rounds at 90+m.
I provided evidence.
Nowhere was a AScr "(assault scrambler rifle) used.
Get lost. Dumb fvck.
Just in case you DON'T understand.... the damage reduction apparently takes place across the top of your damage profile. Which is the LAST thing calculated. It does NOT reduce your BASE damage. Therefore bonus %ages are added BEFORE the reduction of damage profile at range occurs. That's why it's still so potent at range.
Here's the low down. With my proficiencies and damage mods i'm doing over 100 damage per shot vs. neutral target (neither armor nor shield). vs. shields. Now VS. SHIELDS. the +20% vs shields is calculated AFTER my proficiencies and damage mods. So lets put me about 100 damage. + 20%. 120 damage. 35% of 120? 42. Calculate headshot bonus, 7, 8, or 9 rounds.
Tell me again, that I need 9 seconds to kill someone at 90m... and make yourself look stupid... one more time. Straight
I dare you.
I double dare.
Tell me that 9 seconds is necessary, one more god-damned time.
all your provided is that you got the last hit and that you are just bad at sniping, nothing else you dont even get the basics of math prot tip: value x * bonus * penalty = value x * penalty * bonus here is a nice article explaining to you that order in multiplications does not matter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplicationheadshot bonus is 50% btw and suits have armor too. my proto suit brick tanked has slightly over 1k ehp. assuming non charged shots, everything hits in the head and all my hp are shields, well sorry to bust your bubbles but your weapon would overheat before you could my brick tank. but ok, you are the pro, everyone else is wrong, your are right. I guess there is no cure for your tunnelvision. dude that's exactly how i described it. i just did it in literary terms. whatever. hey you tell me what it is, i tell you what happened. if you can't take my word or screenshot for it, then fine. gtfo. regards..
what is this? ignorance mode instead of tunnelvision now?
math have just shown you are wrong and I am right, deal with it.
PS: some math lessons would not hurt in your case too. |
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