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Posted - 2013.09.16 07:14:00 -
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Get behind the wheel of a Gunnlogi / Madrugar for a month, to see how it feels, before YOU try to tell US how it is.
I have AV. It's pathetically easy to use. My main problem is getting a good enough spot. After that, I hope the smoke from the wreckage doesn't clog my suit's filters.
You admit to spending the vast majority of your time in ambush. You've also said you run solo. Both of your problems are right there. |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 07:27:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Regardless of what you tankers say, what leuko says in his post are pretty much what infantry have to deal with lol. Except its a lot cheaper.
Tanks do need a buff tho. LOL No it's not. It's easy to kill tanks. |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 07:28:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Void Echo wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I find it is difficult to explain to tankers what infantry goes through when dealing with tanks. we find it difficult to explain to infantry what pilots go though when dealing with you guys.... we are having trouble finding a way to explain it so even a caveman can understand. Pretty sure I just managed. So please, humor us. id rather not. im just here to point out the mistakes every one of you make when your trying to dictate how this game should work. btw, youv made a lot of mistakes Get your stuff to record so we can show them what it's like. |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 07:30:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: You admit to spending the vast majority of your time in ambush. You've also said you run solo. Both of your problems are right there.
So you're saying the only viable way for me to counter tanks is squads and skirmish? Only wish infantry was lucky enough to have such prerequisites. LOL If that's what you gather from what I said, there's no hope for you. |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:40:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Your awesome post. +1 beer for you |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:43:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Regardless of what you tankers say, what leuko says in his post are pretty much what infantry have to deal with lol. Except its a lot cheaper.
Tanks do need a buff tho. LOL No it's not. It's easy to kill tanks. I'm confused by your reply I didn't say tanks were hard to kill... I said they need a buff didn't I? :( You're confused by everything, aren't you. |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:50:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:As an AV player, I used to relish the opportunity to kill a tank. Often it was a close fight, and I had to be very sneaky in order to pull off the kill. If I succeeded, it felt great. If I failed, it was usually because the tanker was on his toes, and I'd tip my had to him and write off the ISK from the suits as money well spent.
Nowadays, I'm tired.. I see a tank and I sigh inside, because most tankers have realised that an armor tank with a simple, massive buffer and a Large repper(or small, whatever) will defeat any attempts from a solo AV player(or small packs of ADV players) to kill him - regardless of what AV tier he's packing(STD/ADV/PRO).
Tankers don't understand how frustrating it is for an infantry player to see their tanks on the field. They only see the few losses they take(and they see those as BLASPHEMY!!). They don't see the insane number of kills they get, compared to the very very few deaths. And most of all, tankers are the LAST people that I would go to for advice on how strong AV is or is not, because they don't use it! Of course they're going to complain it's too powerful, because all they see is it being used against them. They don't count how many times they escaped, despite having 3 Lai Dai packed AV grenades and proto swarms thrown at them. Or how many times they've simply driven off from a slow forge gunner.
Being a tanker is *very* easy compared to being an Infantry player. Go in, activate hardeners, activate repper if low, mop up kills. Literally nothing to it. Oh, you got hit? Drive away, since you drive faster than any player(including a scout) can run. Tankers are just the easiest thing in the game - assuming you are using a STD with decent skill investment. About the only thing I can say tankers do have bad is that their progression is all screwed up. It's either A) You have not enough skill points and get stomped, or B) You have plenty of skill points and rarely - if ever - die.
It's just frustrating. I really hope CCP doesn't screw up 1.5, because if tanks get any harder to kill without severe nerfs in killing potential, that's likely to be the straw that breaks this camels back. So you're admitting to trying to solo tankers? Got it.
Then you basically give up because even after so many nerfs, those of us with a brain still manage to escape a PRO AV onslaught, even though with 1.4, you got the biggest buff to any AV weapon you've ever had. But that still isn't enough.
Wanna know what I do in a match I don't get popped? All the installations, and maybe a few kills. That's it. You must be playing a lot of ambush, and failing to mention it if you and so many others see tankers getting so many kills. It rarely works in our favor. Best I've ever done was 41-1, because I had a tank behind me also boosting my shields when my own booster was on cooldown. And you know what? I had visual confirmation from him, AND another tanker behind him in our squad that the other team had no better than MLT/STD AV. That's 3 people seeing and confirming that the enemy team didn't have any ADV AV at all. I took a ton of damage, but dished out a ton of damage as well. |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:52:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote: You pick up lai dais and kill any vehicle that is known to dust 514
Clearly written by someone who does not have Lai Dai grenades, or who does, but has not attempted to kill a good tank pilot with them. "Oh no, there's a tank on the other side of that wall!"
*drops nanohive*
*throws packed Lai Dai over the wall*
*tank explodes*
Do we really have to figure it out for everybody? |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:54:00 -
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[quote=Krom Ganesh
Tanks then could be buffed to have a lot more ehp and deal a lot more damage so they are the best vehicle for taking on other vehicles. To prevent them being too effective against infantry, the splash damage of their weapons should be reduced. The large blaster turret would probably have to be changed since it is way too effective at killing infantry. [/quote] LOL You don't know the meaning of the word balance.
Call of Duty is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
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Posted - 2013.09.16 18:12:00 -
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Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:In camp A we have the tankers, who believe that all gear should be able to pay for itself and make a profit on public servers.
In camp B we have the infantry, who believe that powerful gear should have a price and require some grinding.
LOL They don't believe PRO gear should have a price. PRO AV costs less than my 180mm nanofiber plate. That's just the plate!
The price of PRO everything was nerfed into the ground, because ya know, can't pub stomp without cheap PRO gear. Can't let those noobs fresh out the battle academy have a chance against me, 'cuz I need to run the ADV Cal Logi and a Duvolle to kill those in free MLT suits.
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Posted - 2013.09.16 18:37:00 -
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Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:In camp A we have the tankers, who believe that all gear should be able to pay for itself and make a profit on public servers.
In camp B we have the infantry, who believe that powerful gear should have a price and require some grinding.
LOL They don't believe PRO gear should have a price. PRO AV costs less than my 180mm nanofiber plate. That's just the plate! The price of PRO everything was nerfed into the ground, because ya know, can't pub stomp without cheap PRO gear. Can't let those noobs fresh out the battle academy have a chance against me, 'cuz I need to run the ADV Cal Logi and a Duvolle to kill those in free MLT suits. Maybe some think that, but not those who are truly in "camp B". PRO suits used to cost around 300,000 ISK. They don't now, for the aforementioned reasons.
Because, ya know, the best suit costing that much to pound those new to the game just isn't fair.
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