DUST Search - The AR - A neutral look

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Talos Alomar wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Talos Alomar wrote:

I'm still convinced that adjusting the fitting costs of the AR to limit is all that needs to happen to bring this weapon in line with other weapons. I'd say just enough so that it is slightly higher than the shotgun. It'll still be much easier to fit than the SCR. Fitting costs on that weapon are insane.

All in all, If I play my strengths with my SCR AR's aren't a problem for me. what we really need are militia variants of all weapons. I say no direct nerfs or buffs until after 1.5, though.

The SCR is actually an outlier in terms of fitting costs - a lot of weapons are similar or lower than the AR in terms of fitting requirements.

And yes to militia everything.

The reason I think the AR should have higher fitting costs than most weapons is because it has no real drawbacks. Better overall performance should equal higher overall fitting costs.

Not that I want the AR to have SCR type fitting costs, The SCR needs those high fitting costs to keep it from being stupidly overused, lest people start calling it OP.

The idea here is to make it so that it isn't necessarily better overall performance.


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Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1501	Posted - 2013.09.15 17:30:00 - [1] - Quote I'm still convinced that adjusting the fitting costs of the AR to limit is all that needs to happen to bring this weapon in line with other weapons. I'd say just enough so that it is slightly higher than the shotgun. It'll still be much easier to fit than the SCR. Fitting costs on that weapon are insane. All in all, If I play my strengths with my SCR AR's aren't a problem for me. what we really need are militia variants of all weapons. I say no direct nerfs or buffs until after 1.5, though.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1501	Posted - 2013.09.15 17:51:00 - [2] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: I'm still convinced that adjusting the fitting costs of the AR to limit is all that needs to happen to bring this weapon in line with other weapons. I'd say just enough so that it is slightly higher than the shotgun. It'll still be much easier to fit than the SCR. Fitting costs on that weapon are insane. All in all, If I play my strengths with my SCR AR's aren't a problem for me. what we really need are militia variants of all weapons. I say no direct nerfs or buffs until after 1.5, though. The SCR is actually an outlier in terms of fitting costs - a lot of weapons are similar or lower than the AR in terms of fitting requirements. And yes to militia everything. The reason I think the AR should have higher fitting costs than most weapons is because it has no real drawbacks. Better overall performance should equal higher overall fitting costs. Not that I want the AR to have SCR type fitting costs, The SCR needs those high fitting costs to keep it from being stupidly overused, lest people start calling it OP.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1501	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:13:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: I'm still convinced that adjusting the fitting costs of the AR to limit is all that needs to happen to bring this weapon in line with other weapons. I'd say just enough so that it is slightly higher than the shotgun. It'll still be much easier to fit than the SCR. Fitting costs on that weapon are insane. All in all, If I play my strengths with my SCR AR's aren't a problem for me. what we really need are militia variants of all weapons. I say no direct nerfs or buffs until after 1.5, though. The SCR is actually an outlier in terms of fitting costs - a lot of weapons are similar or lower than the AR in terms of fitting requirements. And yes to militia everything. The reason I think the AR should have higher fitting costs than most weapons is because it has no real drawbacks. Better overall performance should equal higher overall fitting costs. Not that I want the AR to have SCR type fitting costs, The SCR needs those high fitting costs to keep it from being stupidly overused, lest people start calling it OP. The idea here is to make it so that it isn't necessarily better overall performance. I'll try to rephrase - A jack of all trades weapon should have a higher fitting cost to counter the fact that it has no real weaknesses, as a higher cost would ease the heaps of damage mods or almost impenetrable tanks many AR fits can wield. I'd like to see some of the more specialized weapons be easier to fit than the AR, so a shotgunner can field a suit with a better tank on it to let it survive getting within range.