Oswald Rehnquist wrote:If we are going with teamwork is OP idea
Then why not combine this with the other complaints and give a mode that does all of the following
No Squads, No OB, No Vehicles, Militia Only. We could call the game mode Cordial Operating District.
That is like 5 birds with one stone while the rest of us duke it out in low sec
JL3Eleven wrote:Teamwork OP
^This applies to Dust also.
pegasis prime wrote:Im now facefisting at this post good ol leuky is crying about team work af@#kingen ,wow you really dont like running on a squad in a team based game. Can you even understand what part of that sentence implies you should be on squad. You really are in the wrong game I really do think you should just biomass yourself give up and go play cod. Please for the love of god and all thats sacred just biomass yourself and go . No one will miss you I promise.
CharCharOdell wrote:You heard it here, first, folks: DJINN Luek thinks teamwork is OP and orbitals kill his dropsuit too fast.
The point is not that teamwork is OP. Rather, all present game modes give artificial bonuses for playing in a five or six man squad over and above any teamwork, namely:
1. Squad WP pooled for OBs, whereas solo player WP is not pooled and is therefore almost always wasted (<5% of players hit 2500WP solo regularly).
2. Extra WP (defend circle jerk), which exacerbates point 1 and also provides a little extra SP and ISK.
3. Vision shared with squad, whereas solo players are 'flying blind'.
None of these points reflects any plausible battlefield considerations. Why would war barge gunners only fire when a squad amassed a certain amount of WP? Why is your kill considered more valuable when the squad has been told to defend you? Why would the dropsuit sensors be hardwired to deny intel to non-squad friendlies?
Furthermore, none of these points concerns 'teamwork'. You don't need to communicate with your squad to get any of these bonuses, or even pay any attention to what they are doing. If your squad's teamwork is so great, why do you need all these non-teamwork bonuses in every gamemode?
I squad most of the time, and prefer to play the game that way. OBs are cool and I can't think of a better way of rewarding them. But I can't see what harm there is in also having a squadless option. Call it Gun Game Mode. Sometimes I don't have the time to make a squad and want a few quick games without landing in pubstomp after pubstomp. More importantly, new players usually don't have the choice of making a squad with competent players. You already have 10-20 times their SP, do you really need OBs and squad vision to beat them?