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Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.09.14 07:57:00 -
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It has shown us which vets sink or swim. Which can adapt - or just die. It's been interesting to see whose become bad with there class choice and whose over-comed just from the simple change of everyone aiming better. A change that should of seen people being move clever - instead many teared up.
Not that I support AA - what kind of game can claim to be competitive and a part of a universe like EvE if you can have such an easy crutch? But I do enjoy watching vets turn bad in face from it - while others shine even more.
Hope you all enjoyed this adventure like I have.
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Blaze Ashra
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:01:00 -
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Nope, no way in hell will anyone take offense to this... |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:03:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:Nope, no way in hell will anyone take offense to this...
Who cares? |
Inyanga
Strong-Arm
16
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:03:00 -
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Their mantra from 1.1-1.3 was "Adapt or GTFO."
Let's see how it works out for 'em! |
Blaze Ashra
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:06:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:Nope, no way in hell will anyone take offense to this... Who cares?
We shall see. Can they resist such obvious troll bait or is restraint within there grasp |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1399
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:06:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:It has shown us which vets sink or swim. Which can adapt - or just die. It's been interesting to see whose become bad with there class choice and whose over-comed just from the simple change of everyone aiming better. A change that should of seen people being move clever - instead many teared up.
Not that I support AA - what kind of game can claim to be competitive and a part of a universe like EvE if you can have such an easy crutch? But I do enjoy watching vets turn bad in face from it - while others shine even more.
Hope you all enjoyed this adventure like I have.
It is different to aiming better by practicing hard, than to aiming better because the game is aiming for you. |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:07:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:It has shown us which vets sink or swim. Which can adapt - or just die. It's been interesting to see whose become bad with there class choice and whose over-comed just from the simple change of everyone aiming better. A change that should of seen people being move clever - instead many teared up.
Not that I support AA - what kind of game can claim to be competitive and a part of a universe like EvE if you can have such an easy crutch? But I do enjoy watching vets turn bad in face from it - while others shine even more.
Hope you all enjoyed this adventure like I have.
It is different to aiming better by practicing hard, than to aiming better because the game is aiming for you.
This post is completely irrelevant to the point.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
639
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:08:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:It has shown us which vets sink or swim. Which can adapt - or just die. It's been interesting to see whose become bad with there class choice and whose over-comed just from the simple change of everyone aiming better. A change that should of seen people being move clever - instead many teared up.
Not that I support AA - what kind of game can claim to be competitive and a part of a universe like EvE if you can have such an easy crutch? But I do enjoy watching vets turn bad in face from it - while others shine even more.
Hope you all enjoyed this adventure like I have.
It is different to aiming better by practicing hard, than to aiming better because the game is aiming for you.
than to aiming better because of kb/m than to shoot better because of a modded controller |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1399
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:14:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:It has shown us which vets sink or swim. Which can adapt - or just die. It's been interesting to see whose become bad with there class choice and whose over-comed just from the simple change of everyone aiming better. A change that should of seen people being move clever - instead many teared up.
Not that I support AA - what kind of game can claim to be competitive and a part of a universe like EvE if you can have such an easy crutch? But I do enjoy watching vets turn bad in face from it - while others shine even more.
Hope you all enjoyed this adventure like I have.
It is different to aiming better by practicing hard, than to aiming better because the game is aiming for you. This post is completely irrelevant to the point.
You should said;
Now that everyone don't have to worry about aiming.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5227
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:21:00 -
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So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? |
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Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:24:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it?
Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness.
Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1400
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:29:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are.
In case you didn't notice CCP have been ninja nerfing the aim-assist for few days now. And i imagine they going to carry on doing that to is more "aim-assist" and less "aimbot". Don't start having any parties yet. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5228
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:30:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are.
I didn't intend to get serious in a troll thread but you have to admit that the crazy short engagement times devalued the grind and completely screwed over certain classes. There wasn't any difference in fittings or noticeable effect in character customization or even the much needed buff to armor. Whatever the devs did with hit detection and aim assist obviously wasn't intentional. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5228
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:32:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are. In case you didn't notice CCP have been ninja nerfing the aim-assist for few days now. And i imagine they going to carry on doing that to is more "aim-assist" and less "aimbot". Don't start having any parties yet.
For all we know, they're probably tweaking hit boxes and automatic weapon dispersion as well. Just from playing day to day at the start of uprising, you could tell they did some work to compensate for the aiming and hit detection issues. |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
2431
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:34:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:It has shown us which vets sink or swim. Which can adapt - or just die. It's been interesting to see whose become bad with there class choice and whose over-comed just from the simple change of everyone aiming better. A change that should of seen people being move clever - instead many teared up.
Not that I support AA - what kind of game can claim to be competitive and a part of a universe like EvE if you can have such an easy crutch? But I do enjoy watching vets turn bad in face from it - while others shine even more.
Hope you all enjoyed this adventure like I have.
Alcoholics anonymous sucks. I was in the zone during drunk night :p |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:38:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are. In case you didn't notice CCP have been ninja nerfing the aim-assist for few days now. And i imagine they going to carry on doing that to is more "aim-assist" and less "aimbot". Don't start having any parties yet.
Why do I care? Even when AA was at it's worse I won all my 1v1 encounters. o.0
I'm just simply saying aiming isn't the only thing that makes you good, and a lot of people relied more on being rambo then tactical. Put everyone on even field - who wins? Obviously not some of the vets! :) |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:39:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are. In case you didn't notice CCP have been ninja nerfing the aim-assist for few days now. And i imagine they going to carry on doing that to is more "aim-assist" and less "aimbot". Don't start having any parties yet. For all we know, they're probably tweaking hit boxes and automatic weapon dispersion as well. Just from playing day to day at the start of uprising, you could tell they did some work to compensate for the aiming and hit detection issues.
I feel like they tweaked hitbox honestly. People just go down to my HMG way too quickly even in PC. My bullets must be mostly landing.
I've been loving my heavysuit and HMG so much lately <3 |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1400
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:42:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are. In case you didn't notice CCP have been ninja nerfing the aim-assist for few days now. And i imagine they going to carry on doing that to is more "aim-assist" and less "aimbot". Don't start having any parties yet. Why do I care? Even when AA was at it's worse I won all my 1v1 encounters. o.0 I'm just simply saying aiming isn't the only thing that makes you good, and a lot of people relied more on being rambo then tactical. Put everyone on even field - who wins? Obviously not some of the vets! :)
WoW... you really don't know much about FPS games, are you ? Rushing through the battlefield causing chaos, is a genuine "tactic" and also pretty hard to do it right, specially in a game like Dust where you have to worry about losing to many suits. |
medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
151
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:44:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are.
I've also noticed that many people who label themselves "vets" on the forums often complain about things killing them. It's always been funny. From "vet" tankers crying that they die to AV and now "vet" infantry pointing to aim-assist being the primary cause of death. If they were really experienced enough to proclaim themselves "vets", would they really be getting killed so easily? And the worst part of it is that they honestly believe calling themselves "vets" validates their argument.
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Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:45:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are. In case you didn't notice CCP have been ninja nerfing the aim-assist for few days now. And i imagine they going to carry on doing that to is more "aim-assist" and less "aimbot". Don't start having any parties yet. Why do I care? Even when AA was at it's worse I won all my 1v1 encounters. o.0 I'm just simply saying aiming isn't the only thing that makes you good, and a lot of people relied more on being rambo then tactical. Put everyone on even field - who wins? Obviously not some of the vets! :) WoW... you really don't know much about FPS games, are you ? Rushing through the battlefield causing chaos, is a genuine "tactic" and also pretty hard to do it right, specially in a game like Dust where you have to worry about losing to many suits.
... are you an idiot? Is this troll bait? Must be troll bait if you honestly believe rushing all your enemies at once is a valid 'tactic"
Not to say - again - that it can't be considered one. It's just.. the dumbest one you could possibly use. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5231
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:46:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Cosgar wrote:So lemme get this straight: by some accident or Michael Bolton levels of miscalculations, they managed to implement a mechanic that completely washed away any skill needed to play an FPS and think it's funny that FPS players were mad about it? Nice way to bluntly put it. But skill isn't aiming a lone - it's situational awareness. Not that I don't agree with you. But the tears are more, " But MLT is killing me now! " None of the good players I know are saying that - yet the forum vets, are. In case you didn't notice CCP have been ninja nerfing the aim-assist for few days now. And i imagine they going to carry on doing that to is more "aim-assist" and less "aimbot". Don't start having any parties yet. For all we know, they're probably tweaking hit boxes and automatic weapon dispersion as well. Just from playing day to day at the start of uprising, you could tell they did some work to compensate for the aiming and hit detection issues. I feel like they tweaked hitbox honestly. People just go down to my HMG way too quickly even in PC. My bullets must be mostly landing. I've been loving my heavysuit and HMG so much lately <3
Yeah, something was funky about hit boxes for a while. Even back in 1.2 I was landing quite a few direct hits with the MD that should have been just splash damage. It was blatantly obvious in 1.4 that you had to actively try to miss someone with any weapon because our hit boxes were as big as the broad side of a barn. Haven't played in the past couple of days, but I'm going to see what it's like after the current hot fix. |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
2436
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:47:00 -
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^I rushed all the enemies at once and I was constantly outnumbered and ended up having a game going 22-4-0
Dumb strategy but it is awesome when it works. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1400
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:51:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
I'm just simply saying aiming isn't the only thing that makes you good, and a lot of people relied more on being rambo then tactical. Put everyone on even field - who wins? Obviously not some of the vets! :)
Quote:WoW... you really don't know much about FPS games, are you ? Rushing through the battlefield causing chaos, is a genuine "tactic" and also pretty hard to do it right, specially in a game like Dust where you have to worry about losing to many suits. ... are you an idiot? Is this troll bait? Must be troll bait if you honestly believe rushing all your enemies at once is a valid 'tactic" Not to say - again - that it can't be considered one. It's just.. the dumbest one you could possibly use.
Rushing is a genuine tactic, catching the enemy unaware or unprepared.
Also known as ; Charge |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
153
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:53:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
I'm just simply saying aiming isn't the only thing that makes you good, and a lot of people relied more on being rambo then tactical. Put everyone on even field - who wins? Obviously not some of the vets! :)
WoW... you really don't know much about FPS games, are you ? Rushing through the battlefield causing chaos, is a genuine "tactic" and also pretty hard to do it right, specially in a game like Dust where you have to worry about losing to many suits. ... are you an idiot? Is this troll bait? Must be troll bait if you honestly believe rushing all your enemies at once is a valid 'tactic" Not to say - again - that it can't be considered one. It's just.. the dumbest one you could possibly use.
Rushing is a genuine tactic, catching the enemy unaware or unprepared.
Also known as ; Charge[/quote]
... so you're relying on there backs being turned or pre-occupied? That's not 'ramboing' as I put it and you responded too. That's called 'flanking'  |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
2438
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:54:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Long Evity wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
I'm just simply saying aiming isn't the only thing that makes you good, and a lot of people relied more on being rambo then tactical. Put everyone on even field - who wins? Obviously not some of the vets! :)
WoW... you really don't know much about FPS games, are you ? Rushing through the battlefield causing chaos, is a genuine "tactic" and also pretty hard to do it right, specially in a game like Dust where you have to worry about losing to many suits. ... are you an idiot? Is this troll bait? Must be troll bait if you honestly believe rushing all your enemies at once is a valid 'tactic" Not to say - again - that it can't be considered one. It's just.. the dumbest one you could possibly use. Rushing is a genuine tactic, catching the enemy unaware or unprepared. Also known as ; Charge
... so you're relying on there backs being turned or pre-occupied? That's not 'ramboing' as I put it and you responded too. That's called 'flanking' [/quote]
I was General John Rambo. |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
2438
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:57:00 -
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All tactics aside, why can't we all just do what is fun for us :p |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
153
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:58:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:All tactics aside, why can't we all just do what is fun for us :p
Trolling is fun.  |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1400
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Posted - 2013.09.14 09:00:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Long Evity wrote:Rushing is a genuine tactic, catching the enemy unaware or unprepared. Also known as ; Charge ... so you're relying on there backs being turned or pre-occupied? That's not 'ramboing' as I put it and you responded too. That's called 'flanking'
Quote:I was General John Rambo.
"flanking" is a different tactic that is used mostly by guerrilla units.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanking_maneuver |
Blaze Ashra
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.09.14 09:02:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:All tactics aside, why can't we all just do what is fun for us :p
Might I interest you in some destruction? |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
2439
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Posted - 2013.09.14 09:04:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:General John Ripper wrote:Long Evity wrote:Rushing is a genuine tactic, catching the enemy unaware or unprepared. Also known as ; Charge ... so you're relying on there backs being turned or pre-occupied? That's not 'ramboing' as I put it and you responded too. That's called 'flanking' Quote:I was General John Rambo. "flanking" is a different tactic that is used mostly by guerrilla units. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanking_maneuver
lol wrong person. Well technically. I was quoting sota but it came out as part of my post for the first bit. |
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