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Solaris Echo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:36:00 -
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As you can see, im an amarr Templar, so I can destroy anything that comes my way. I do prefer to bring the light to those who do not have it, however I am not an advocate of slavery, slavery is not needed for conversion to the faith of god, all that is needed is for us to show them the path and guide them through it. I have never owned slaves, nor has my family ever owned slaves.
Being a pure blooded amarrian and having these ideals isn't easy but its not hard either.
(if you can guess who is my main profile, youl win a free like.. p.s- this is going to be my RP character) |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
40
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:53:00 -
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(Hmmmm are you Yun? Or Galm? Or Foley!" But then again you could be Denak. True is going out of town I believe he said.) |
XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
265
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:56:00 -
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((Do you mean this is your only Rp character at all?))
Welcome then, anyone who doesn't support slavery is marked as decent in my book. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
450
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:58:00 -
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((He's Void Echo. I used to have an alt which I posted a few articles with but I've stopped using it. Guess who))
Welcome, I guess. |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
40
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:09:00 -
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I'm horrible at guess who and Void was my other thought while I was scrolling through IGS |
Solaris Echo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:16:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:((He's Void Echo. I used to have an alt which I posted a few articles with but I've stopped using it. Guess who))
Welcome, I guess.
free like |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1706
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:17:00 -
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You do not have to be a slave owner in Amarr society, but if you are actively protesting the Empire's stance on slavery that is a quick way to get exiled and removed from the Book of Records. While we of Amarr to enjoy a healthy expression of individuality, let us not forget an important excerpt from the Code of Demeanor,
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor
Do not confuse the morality of slavery within the Amarr Empire for that which has occurred in the history of the Gallente Federation or even the Minmatar before they were greeted by the Amarr. Unlike these past civilizations, the Amarr Empire does not use slavery as a means of asserting superiority for cheap labor. It is by Imperial decree that all slaves be treated with respect, for we must not remember that all bloodlines of the Amarr Society, even the prominent Khanid and Ni-Kunni, were once slaves of the Empire. So too will the Minmatar and other slaves be released from their bonds and enter or society as equals. Their lineage will be our future, and in that we love them as we love our own. |
Solaris Echo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:20:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:You do not have to be a slave owner in Amarr society, but if you are actively protesting the Empire's stance on slavery that is a quick way to get exiled and removed from the Book of Records. While we of Amarr to enjoy a healthy expression of individuality, let us not forget an important excerpt from the Code of Demeanor,
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor
Do not confuse the morality of slavery within the Amarr Empire for that which has occurred in the history of the Gallente Federation or even the Minmatar before they were greeted by the Amarr. Unlike these past civilizations, the Amarr Empire does not use slavery as a means of asserting superiority for cheap labor. It is by Imperial decree that all slaves be treated with respect, for we must not remember that all bloodlines of the Amarr Society, even the prominent Khanid and Ni-Kunni, were once slaves of the Empire. So too will the Minmatar and other slaves be released from their bonds and enter or society as equals. Their lineage will be our future, and in that we love them as we love our own.
I do know that we have a different form of slavery than other empires claim, however, slavery is something i will not use. all life is too important for me to force submission onto another being.
im not opposing the empire, I would never do that, im stating that when your with me or around me, youl never become a slave, any kind of slavery is not advocated by me or my house.
I believe in different paths to the light other than submission, submission will just plant seeds of hatred into the conquered, whether it be brutality or just submission. other royal houses do not look on the ni kuni as equal you know, they are still viewed as slaves and laborers to those in the empire |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1706
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:31:00 -
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The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing. |
Mistaahh Juvenile
Synergy United
7
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:36:00 -
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Like I give a damn about morales. |
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XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
265
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:40:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing. Because I'm certain my ancestors rebelled simply because it was fun. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1706
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:43:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing. Because I'm certain my ancestors rebelled simply because it was fun. Rebellions before the Gallente tainted your minds were few and far between. |
Solaris Echo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:54:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing.
my father hired a personal tutor for me |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1706
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:59:00 -
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Solaris Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing. my father hired a personal tutor for me Of course he did. Be weary, Mister Echo, you are walking a fine line. The Empire does not look kindly upon cults. |
Solaris Echo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.13 20:04:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Solaris Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing. my father hired a personal tutor for me Of course he did. Be weary, Mister Echo, you are walking a fine line. The Empire does not look kindly upon cults.
oh I am not in a cult, if I was in a cult or anything, you would see others speaking as I do, I am merely an individual stating his individual idea |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1707
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Posted - 2013.09.13 20:43:00 -
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*glares*
Surely. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3182
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Posted - 2013.09.13 22:34:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:*glares*
Surely.
I find this rather amusing. A non-conformist Amarr?
This reaction is certainly warranted. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1707
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:09:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:*glares*
Surely. I find this rather amusing. A non-conformist Amarr? This reaction is certainly warranted. It is not that he doesn't confirm, we Amarrians embrace individuality. It is that he presents his intolerance on slavery as a superior morale; one greater than even the Empress. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1954
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:03:00 -
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Solaris Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:You do not have to be a slave owner in Amarr society, but if you are actively protesting the Empire's stance on slavery that is a quick way to get exiled and removed from the Book of Records. While we of Amarr to enjoy a healthy expression of individuality, let us not forget an important excerpt from the Code of Demeanor,
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor
Do not confuse the morality of slavery within the Amarr Empire for that which has occurred in the history of the Gallente Federation or even the Minmatar before they were greeted by the Amarr. Unlike these past civilizations, the Amarr Empire does not use slavery as a means of asserting superiority for cheap labor. It is by Imperial decree that all slaves be treated with respect, for we must not remember that all bloodlines of the Amarr Society, even the prominent Khanid and Ni-Kunni, were once slaves of the Empire. So too will the Minmatar and other slaves be released from their bonds and enter or society as equals. Their lineage will be our future, and in that we love them as we love our own. I do know that we have a different form of slavery than other empires claim, however, slavery is something i will not use. all life is too important for me to force submission onto another being. im not opposing the empire, I would never do that, im stating that when your with me or around me, youl never become a slave, any kind of slavery is not advocated by me or my house. I believe in different paths to the light other than submission, submission will just plant seeds of hatred into the conquered, whether it be brutality or just submission. other royal houses do not look on the ni kuni as equal you know, they are still viewed as slaves and laborers to those in the empire
Such beliefs are well ingrained in Amarr society with most conservative houses believing that clinging to the old ways is the purest form of the Reclaimation, however there are many newer ideals emerging within Amarrian society that actively seek newer ways to Reclaim the stars.
While I am sure your family has denounced slavery, there must have been some time when they did count themselves amongst the Holders, or is your house newly upraised to nobility?
As for your assertion that the NI Kunni are not viewed as equals, as stated before there are many types of nobles within the Empire from puritanical, to conservatives, to more liberal houses.
All are the same in their devotion to God, Empress, and our immortal destiny. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1954
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:06:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing. Because I'm certain my ancestors rebelled simply because it was fun.
And Im sure the Anmatar champion us because what we did to them was so terrible, ordering their society, building schools and hospitals, and giving them hope. |
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Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
216
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:35:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The Amarr form of slavery does not rely on submission, and many of the individuals who have came out of slavery have ended up becoming some of the strongest advocates of the Empire and Amarr faith we have seen. It does not plant the seed of hatred, if you know your history you would know that seed was planted in the Minmatar rebellion long ago by the Gallente Federation. Tell me, which institute did you receive your education from?
Your condescending tone and self-righteous superiority in moral is most *pauses* disturbing. Because I'm certain my ancestors rebelled simply because it was fun.
I wouldn't be surprised.... |
Solaris Echo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Solaris Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:You do not have to be a slave owner in Amarr society, but if you are actively protesting the Empire's stance on slavery that is a quick way to get exiled and removed from the Book of Records. While we of Amarr to enjoy a healthy expression of individuality, let us not forget an important excerpt from the Code of Demeanor,
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor
Do not confuse the morality of slavery within the Amarr Empire for that which has occurred in the history of the Gallente Federation or even the Minmatar before they were greeted by the Amarr. Unlike these past civilizations, the Amarr Empire does not use slavery as a means of asserting superiority for cheap labor. It is by Imperial decree that all slaves be treated with respect, for we must not remember that all bloodlines of the Amarr Society, even the prominent Khanid and Ni-Kunni, were once slaves of the Empire. So too will the Minmatar and other slaves be released from their bonds and enter or society as equals. Their lineage will be our future, and in that we love them as we love our own. I do know that we have a different form of slavery than other empires claim, however, slavery is something i will not use. all life is too important for me to force submission onto another being. im not opposing the empire, I would never do that, im stating that when your with me or around me, youl never become a slave, any kind of slavery is not advocated by me or my house. I believe in different paths to the light other than submission, submission will just plant seeds of hatred into the conquered, whether it be brutality or just submission. other royal houses do not look on the ni kuni as equal you know, they are still viewed as slaves and laborers to those in the empire Such beliefs are well ingrained in Amarr society with most conservative houses believing that clinging to the old ways is the purest form of the Reclaimation, however there are many newer ideals emerging within Amarrian society that actively seek newer ways to Reclaim the stars. While I am sure your family has denounced slavery, there must have been some time when they did count themselves amongst the Holders, or is your house newly upraised to nobility? As for your assertion that the NI Kunni are not viewed as equals, as stated before there are many types of nobles within the Empire from puritanical, to conservatives, to more liberal houses. All are the same in their devotion to God, Empress, and our immortal destiny. ((EDIT- You must understand Void, yes you are free to RP yourself however you like and Im glad you are trying an Amarrian.... while we do embrace individuality few amarrians consider slavery wrong, nor do they really stop to consider their individuality as something more meaningful than it is.... to us it is not a right or an ideal but something we have that we have always had for as long as the empire has existed. Our religion trumps all things.))
my family was raised to nobility about 5 decades after the minmitar rebellion.
((my family must be part of those "few amarrian" who do not advocate slavery)) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1719
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:59:00 -
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Actively disagreeing with the Imperial and religious tradition as well as the Scriptures is not something you should champion so proudly, Mister Echo.
I implore you to look past your self-defined ideological views as to why servitude is immoral and instead see the truth as to why it is a necessity, for we are all servants to one higher. Even Her Majesty, Empress Jamyl, is a servant - a servant to the Lord. Unified servitude is how our Empire was built into the grand civilization you see today, to defy servitude is to denounce your place among us.
((really trying to stay IC, but to follow up on what True said: Yes, there are a small group of Amarrians who are against slavery, heck there's even select people who aren't religious. However, these people don't go around actively sporting these views as it would go against the grand view of the Empire which is most important. As with True, I'd happy you're trying to role play an Amarrian, but you can't really claim to be an Amarr loyalist while openly disagreeing with the Empress, who is thought to be divinity incarnated. Right now you are sounding more like an Amarr cultist than an Amarr loyalist, which is fine if that's what you're aiming for.)) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1958
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Posted - 2013.09.14 03:20:00 -
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Solaris Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Solaris Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:You do not have to be a slave owner in Amarr society, but if you are actively protesting the Empire's stance on slavery that is a quick way to get exiled and removed from the Book of Records. While we of Amarr to enjoy a healthy expression of individuality, let us not forget an important excerpt from the Code of Demeanor,
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor
Do not confuse the morality of slavery within the Amarr Empire for that which has occurred in the history of the Gallente Federation or even the Minmatar before they were greeted by the Amarr. Unlike these past civilizations, the Amarr Empire does not use slavery as a means of asserting superiority for cheap labor. It is by Imperial decree that all slaves be treated with respect, for we must not remember that all bloodlines of the Amarr Society, even the prominent Khanid and Ni-Kunni, were once slaves of the Empire. So too will the Minmatar and other slaves be released from their bonds and enter or society as equals. Their lineage will be our future, and in that we love them as we love our own. I do know that we have a different form of slavery than other empires claim, however, slavery is something i will not use. all life is too important for me to force submission onto another being. im not opposing the empire, I would never do that, im stating that when your with me or around me, youl never become a slave, any kind of slavery is not advocated by me or my house. I believe in different paths to the light other than submission, submission will just plant seeds of hatred into the conquered, whether it be brutality or just submission. other royal houses do not look on the ni kuni as equal you know, they are still viewed as slaves and laborers to those in the empire Such beliefs are well ingrained in Amarr society with most conservative houses believing that clinging to the old ways is the purest form of the Reclaimation, however there are many newer ideals emerging within Amarrian society that actively seek newer ways to Reclaim the stars. While I am sure your family has denounced slavery, there must have been some time when they did count themselves amongst the Holders, or is your house newly upraised to nobility? As for your assertion that the NI Kunni are not viewed as equals, as stated before there are many types of nobles within the Empire from puritanical, to conservatives, to more liberal houses. All are the same in their devotion to God, Empress, and our immortal destiny. ((EDIT- You must understand Void, yes you are free to RP yourself however you like and Im glad you are trying an Amarrian.... while we do embrace individuality few amarrians consider slavery wrong, nor do they really stop to consider their individuality as something more meaningful than it is.... to us it is not a right or an ideal but something we have that we have always had for as long as the empire has existed. Our religion trumps all things.)) my family was raised to nobility about 5 decades after the minmitar rebellion. ((my family must be part of those "few amarrian" who do not advocate slavery))
(( That is not a commonly held belief amongst long time Amarrian nobility.... either at somepoint your were holders but renounced it or you have been relatively politically exiled by the conservative Amarr)) |
Solaris Echo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.14 03:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Solaris Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Solaris Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:You do not have to be a slave owner in Amarr society, but if you are actively protesting the Empire's stance on slavery that is a quick way to get exiled and removed from the Book of Records. While we of Amarr to enjoy a healthy expression of individuality, let us not forget an important excerpt from the Code of Demeanor,
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor
Do not confuse the morality of slavery within the Amarr Empire for that which has occurred in the history of the Gallente Federation or even the Minmatar before they were greeted by the Amarr. Unlike these past civilizations, the Amarr Empire does not use slavery as a means of asserting superiority for cheap labor. It is by Imperial decree that all slaves be treated with respect, for we must not remember that all bloodlines of the Amarr Society, even the prominent Khanid and Ni-Kunni, were once slaves of the Empire. So too will the Minmatar and other slaves be released from their bonds and enter or society as equals. Their lineage will be our future, and in that we love them as we love our own. I do know that we have a different form of slavery than other empires claim, however, slavery is something i will not use. all life is too important for me to force submission onto another being. im not opposing the empire, I would never do that, im stating that when your with me or around me, youl never become a slave, any kind of slavery is not advocated by me or my house. I believe in different paths to the light other than submission, submission will just plant seeds of hatred into the conquered, whether it be brutality or just submission. other royal houses do not look on the ni kuni as equal you know, they are still viewed as slaves and laborers to those in the empire Such beliefs are well ingrained in Amarr society with most conservative houses believing that clinging to the old ways is the purest form of the Reclaimation, however there are many newer ideals emerging within Amarrian society that actively seek newer ways to Reclaim the stars. While I am sure your family has denounced slavery, there must have been some time when they did count themselves amongst the Holders, or is your house newly upraised to nobility? As for your assertion that the NI Kunni are not viewed as equals, as stated before there are many types of nobles within the Empire from puritanical, to conservatives, to more liberal houses. All are the same in their devotion to God, Empress, and our immortal destiny. ((EDIT- You must understand Void, yes you are free to RP yourself however you like and Im glad you are trying an Amarrian.... while we do embrace individuality few amarrians consider slavery wrong, nor do they really stop to consider their individuality as something more meaningful than it is.... to us it is not a right or an ideal but something we have that we have always had for as long as the empire has existed. Our religion trumps all things.)) my family was raised to nobility about 5 decades after the minmitar rebellion. ((my family must be part of those "few amarrian" who do not advocate slavery)) (( That is not a commonly held belief amongst long time Amarrian nobility.... either at somepoint your were holders but renounced it or you have been relatively politically exiled by the conservative Amarr))
((its possible that my lineage did hold slaves once but I don't have access to the data archive, im not head of the family so I am not allowed there)) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1959
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Posted - 2013.09.14 03:59:00 -
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(( AH I understand you now and will endeavour to respond IC)) |
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