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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:58:00 -
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Let me just get a couple things out of the way before I get into the discussion here.
First, the Eve Online version of the IGS is understood to have no physical location. It's an online forum, much like its OOC version but presumably shinier and capable of carrying recorded audio or embedded video-- possibly holographic, even. This is our precedent.
However....
Second, a number of people have taken the idea of the DUST IGS as having a physical location and run with it, notably Galm Fae and the gents from PIE. This is a nifty enough thing that I'm disinclined to cry foul. However, it WOULD be a good thing for us to agree on where it is.
The PIE emissary gives some sense of being on a station (ornate but closed rooms, no windows). Which station?
The Shrine of Three Ways gives some sense of being on a planet (open air, actual weather). Which planet?
Considering the usual clone soldier method of transportation, any of these things could be true. One possibility that seems strong to me is that the facility is planetary, based at a facility in the Yulai system-- CONCORD sovereignty. This could make the PIE emissary essentially a cathedral, give Galm his weather, and give the setting a nicely diplomatic spin. The message boards themselves could still essentially be virtual, while also allowing us a physical venue in which to gather and talk. (Anybody feel like starting up a DUST IGS in-game channel to play the role of the facility concourse?)
Anybody care to suggest which planet this should be, assuming any of the system's planets are terrestrial? The star is blue, by the way. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
98
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:14:00 -
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Yulai is always an option, though I have also considered the site itself to exist in Molden Heath. This would allow for a mercenary led Summit between various contracts all coexisting on "Planet Fight Club" without the meddling concerns of CONCORD or intervention by capsuleers. The facility itself could be located on the outskirts of the badlands in an arid climate, which would explain why a majority of the base is located indoors.
Either way, I am glad we are finally addressing this before we started to run into some real issues. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:20:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Yulai is always an option, though I have also considered the site itself to exist in Molden Heath. This would allow for a mercenary led Summit between various contracts all coexisting on "Planet Fight Club" without the meddling concerns of CONCORD or intervention by capsuleers. The facility itself could be located on the outskirts of the badlands in an arid climate, which would explain why a majority of the base is located indoors.
Either way, I am glad we are finally addressing this before we started to run into some real issues. I'm not sure we're exactly immune to meddling by CONCORD (commonly known as devs, or moderators). My only real difficulty with Molden Heath, though, is that it's going to be a pretty impermanent location. Planet Fight Club is all well and good, but the arrangement there is apt to collapse if and when more space opens up for us to move into.
Yulai allows for a bit more stability and, come to think of it, explains why we might eventually have a Matari emissary to go with the PIE one without having a war in the hallway. A downside of independent facilities is the difficulty of keeping the peace, and doing so fairly, without having an outside power performing the role. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
98
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:53:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Yulai is always an option, though I have also considered the site itself to exist in Molden Heath. This would allow for a mercenary led Summit between various contracts all coexisting on "Planet Fight Club" without the meddling concerns of CONCORD or intervention by capsuleers. The facility itself could be located on the outskirts of the badlands in an arid climate, which would explain why a majority of the base is located indoors.
Either way, I am glad we are finally addressing this before we started to run into some real issues. I'm not sure we're exactly immune to meddling by CONCORD (commonly known as devs, or moderators). My only real difficulty with Molden Heath, though, is that it's going to be a pretty impermanent location. Planet Fight Club is all well and good, but the arrangement there is apt to collapse if and when more space opens up for us to move into. Yulai allows for a bit more stability and, come to think of it, explains why we might eventually have a Matari emissary to go with the PIE one without having a war in the hallway. A downside of independent facilities is the difficulty of keeping the peace, and doing so fairly, without having an outside power performing the role. Valid points. Besides, I am down for having a blue sun. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
450
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Posted - 2013.09.13 09:36:00 -
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Yulai would sound good to me, I looked at it from the starmap, and the only habitable planet over there would be Yulai III, and orbiting on its first moon is a station owned by Secure Commere Commission Depository, it could also work for the station part of the physical IGS. And since both the station and the Yulai III planet are close to each other, you might not always have to use a Clone Reanimation Unit to reach the planet, an Interbus shuttle could probably take you there too.
And speaking of the chat channel, I could possibly set up one with my EVE account, so we could have MOTDs for a description of all the locations within the physical IGS, and moderation abilities in case trouble ensues. I'm still uncertain what this channel could be called, suggestions on your part would be nice. We should also discuss what rules would be enforced on this channel, and whether or not we should create a new OOC channel along with it or use the pre-existing ones, DUST OOC, OOC or the CCP created Out of Character. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.09.13 10:18:00 -
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Iv left my bar vagely as on a station tbh having this area all on the same station would make sense the problem is what station would All mercs vist to justify the comming and going? |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
450
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Posted - 2013.09.13 10:43:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Iv left my bar vagely as on a station tbh having this area all on the same station would make sense the problem is what station would All mercs vist to justify the comming and going? The station I suggested in my own post is in neutral CONCORD territory, and so is the planet Yulai III, the place isn't really meant to be some kind of a hub area for DUST mercenaries to all come together, since most of us would be living in our own empire space. The physical Intergalactic Summit is just that, a Summit where mercs from all walks of life can visit and come together without a massive war ensuing on the hallways. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1322
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Posted - 2013.09.13 10:45:00 -
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I station in concord spaced as a agreeded no fire zone would be a good idea after all mercs are a lot more mobile then egg heads thanks q body hopping tech |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
257
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:01:00 -
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Either a station or a planetary facility seems workable. However, the planetary facility makes it much less likely to get drop-ins from capsuleers; we can get down there easily (clone transfer). The capsuleers, not so much (shuttle, with accompanying annoyances).
There's no reason that there might not be a little bit of both. The bar might even be at the CONCORD bureau station.
I'm liking Yulai III. We're fortunate, by the way, that the planet's stats made some kind of coherent sense; a fair few of those statistics, CCP has sometimes seemed to be pulling out of a hat. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
450
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:41:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Either a station or a planetary facility seems workable. However, the planetary facility makes it much less likely to get drop-ins from capsuleers; we can get down there easily (clone transfer). The capsuleers, not so much (shuttle, with accompanying annoyances).
There's no reason that there might not be a little bit of both. The bar might even be at the CONCORD bureau station.
Having both a space station and a ground facility would probably be the best solution for the multitude of locations that have been created in the physical IGS, but continuing with the chat idea, we would probably have to create two channels, one for the ground facility and the other for the space station, it would be difficult to know who was where if both were the same channel.
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:I'm liking Yulai III. We're fortunate, by the way, that the planet's stats made some kind of coherent sense; a fair few of those statistics, CCP has sometimes seemed to be pulling out of a hat. Yulai III seems a reasonable place to live, but the low atmospheric pressure and short orbit times make me a little doubtful, but I guess it's reasonable enough and delving too much into environmental science would probably melt my brain. |
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
452
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:55:00 -
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Well, now I've created an official channel for this location, called Yulai III Ground Facility, be sure to check it out when you log into the game! More info of it can be found from here and here! |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
235
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Posted - 2013.09.17 14:33:00 -
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I'm thinking of setting up a club. Any real estate available? |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
258
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:18:00 -
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Jakar Umbra wrote:I'm thinking of setting up a club. Any real estate available?
Any nook your imagination can paint it into, really. There's no one (or finite) vision of this place unless and until CCP builds an environment for it and starts renting out space. |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
235
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:02:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Jakar Umbra wrote:I'm thinking of setting up a club. Any real estate available? Any nook your imagination can paint it into, really. There's no one (or finite) vision of this place unless and until CCP builds an environment for it and starts renting out space. Well it's open now. Feel free to visit. We have something for everyone. |
21yrOld Knight
High-Damage
119
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:52:00 -
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Should we ignore the fact that someone from pie Inc. stabbed someone in their lobby. I think we should |
Maikyl Metsar
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
59
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Posted - 2013.09.21 03:10:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Should we ignore the fact that someone from pie Inc. stabbed someone in their lobby. I think we should
that individual wasn't from pie, hadn't met them before, and they're definitely not welcome back. |
Maikyl Metsar
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
59
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Posted - 2013.09.21 03:18:00 -
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On the actual topic a lot of the earlier posts had it as a station. It was the shrine that started the on planet thing. Either is fine with me, I just might have to edit text on the cathedral as it is explicitly in space. If you want to do the half and half option perhaps have them be connected by a space elevator? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2170
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Posted - 2013.09.21 03:27:00 -
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Maikyl Metsar wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Should we ignore the fact that someone from pie Inc. stabbed someone in their lobby. I think we should that individual wasn't from pie, hadn't met them before, and they're definitely not welcome back. As much as it pains me to say this is an unfortunate situation given the potential amount of ground support he can bring to the Amarr cause, politeness aside.....
We can both say by looking in the records of the emissary we knew the victim was also fondling a concealed weapon..... |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Maikyl Metsar wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Should we ignore the fact that someone from pie Inc. stabbed someone in their lobby. I think we should that individual wasn't from pie, hadn't met them before, and they're definitely not welcome back. As much as it pains me to say this is an unfortunate situation given the potential amount of ground support he can bring to the Amarr cause, politeness aside..... We can both say by looking in the records of the emissary we knew the victim was also fondling a concealed weapon.....
This is really kind of off-topic, but my usual feeling is that what happened, happened. Also, it's unlikely that a single stabbing in which someone may have died but nobody suffered permanent injury (heh) would be a major issue regardless of whether the incident occurred on a station or a planet.
Clone soldiers have a reputation for being a little ... touched.
Maikyl Metsar wrote:On the actual topic a lot of the earlier posts had it as a station. It was the shrine that started the on planet thing. Either is fine with me, I just might have to edit text on the cathedral as it is explicitly in space. If you want to do the half and half option perhaps have them be connected by a space elevator?
Supposedly, space elevators are being introduced into Eve at some point. Thing is, though, it's good to put our infrastructure in places where either (1) it can't reasonably be expected to actually be visible (planetside) or (2) it can be physically visited, at least on the outside (the CONCORD bureau).
I like both options, though putting it planetside seems to require a little less retconning. (I may partly have that impression because some of the retconning that would have to happen for the whole business to be on a station would be my own.) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2196
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:52:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Maikyl Metsar wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Should we ignore the fact that someone from pie Inc. stabbed someone in their lobby. I think we should that individual wasn't from pie, hadn't met them before, and they're definitely not welcome back. As much as it pains me to say this is an unfortunate situation given the potential amount of ground support he can bring to the Amarr cause, politeness aside..... We can both say by looking in the records of the emissary we knew the victim was also fondling a concealed weapon..... This is really kind of off-topic, but my usual feeling is that what happened, happened. Also, it's unlikely that a single stabbing in which someone may have died but nobody suffered permanent injury (heh) would be a major issue regardless of whether the incident occurred on a station or a planet. Clone soldiers have a reputation for being a little ... touched.
I am merely pointing this out, lets not forget the we in the PIE Emissary can check through video and audio records to somewhat get a clearer picture of events than the visiting dignitaries. |
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Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
104
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Maikyl Metsar wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Should we ignore the fact that someone from pie Inc. stabbed someone in their lobby. I think we should that individual wasn't from pie, hadn't met them before, and they're definitely not welcome back. As much as it pains me to say this is an unfortunate situation given the potential amount of ground support he can bring to the Amarr cause, politeness aside..... We can both say by looking in the records of the emissary we knew the victim was also fondling a concealed weapon..... This is really kind of off-topic, but my usual feeling is that what happened, happened. Also, it's unlikely that a single stabbing in which someone may have died but nobody suffered permanent injury (heh) would be a major issue regardless of whether the incident occurred on a station or a planet. Clone soldiers have a reputation for being a little ... touched. I am merely pointing this out, lets not forget the we in the PIE Emissary can check through video and audio records to somewhat get a clearer picture of events than the visiting dignitaries. Ugh. My grasp on RPing in New Eden was somewhat unrefined when that happened, sorry that is making issues months later. My rational is that Galm as a character is slowly stabilizing from the trauma of his time in the STC.
Either way, the incident was never reported, and was considered a small disagreement between two immortals. For us, a stabbing might as well be a high five. Now, ripping through a guy with a Toxin Submachine Gun... That we can't have. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2211
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:52:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote: Ugh. My grasp on RPing in New Eden was somewhat unrefined when that happened, sorry that is making issues months later. My rational is that Galm as a character is slowly stabilizing from the trauma of his time in the STC.
Either way, the incident was never reported, and was considered a small disagreement between two immortals. For us, a stabbing might as well be a high five. Now, ripping through a guy with a Toxin Submachine Gun... That we can't have.
Yeah I like that destabilization, just pointing out that neither was at fault, or both were, and that such a negative stance is not needed. |
Dariuz Krul
Ultramarine Corp
7
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:20:00 -
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Umm, the IGS is a virtual environment... |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
485
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:36:00 -
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Dariuz Krul wrote:Umm, the IGS is a virtual environment... Incorrect, The Summit channel is a virtual environment, Intergalactic Summit and The Summit are separate entities entirely.
Intergalactic Summit is basically a forum, nothing more, nothing less. What we have come up with is a physical version of this Intergalactic Summit, to explain the emissaries and other structures where people do physical roleplay in. |
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