Remove KB/M then if you people are so scarred ofthe game being unfair

Remove KB/M then if you people are so scarred ofthe game being unfair

Oh look, the bad players are now pointing at KB/M being unfair. Lol

You obviously arnt very good. I have a KB/M hooked up to my ps3 and it has better aiming than the DS3. Stop trying to ruin dust.

Yet, 13ear and Regnyum - arguably the best players in dust, are DS3 users? Are you a best player in Dust514

I don't see how your 'opinion' sways anything in this debate. KB/M has it's advantages, surely, Sniper and forge sniping be 2 of them. But in most cases KB/M plays in fair ground with DS3. Only scrubs who need excuses for dying think otherwise.

Thats because skill isnt about what your using to play or aim assist. A good player is good because they understand how the game work, bad players will be bad no matter what as well, so stop trying to make up excuses.

actually this is an excuse. A good player is defined by more then understanding - it's skill. He can aim faster, and better then you. Now that's taken away and the only thing left is 'tactics' Only understanding of the game makes you good.

If that's fine with you then why don't you just admit you're bad and needed the crutch

Is aimbot. Not many good players are arguing for it that consistently play PC. Anyone else find that interesting?

Nub514.

Is aimbot. Not many good players are arguing for it that consistently play PC. Anyone else find that interesting?

Nub514.

Is aimbot. Not many good players are arguing for it that consistently play PC. Anyone else find that interesting?

Nub514.

the best players in dust are irrelevant in this matter, because they are the minority.

the majority are indifferent or in favor of AA, but its not just AA...

as you are well aware, they tweaked hit detection and our hit boxes.

this is what has overloaded our senses, the feel of the game is very different now, and those finely trained reflexes don't produce the results you expect, because the game is adhering to a different set of parameters.

I cant imagine the best players really care, seeing as how they are the best players.

it would makes sense to me that the worst players should be the ones complaining, since they need a reason as to why they suck so bad...

now im sure you have names in mind when you say the best players... but if those names are getting out done by noobs with AA, then, they aren't the best players anymore...

this game is in dire need of growth, and still to small to make room for the clubhouse mentality. you should be fostering its growth instead of attempting to segregate it into groups of who's opinion does and doesn't matter...

Hold on - the best DS3 users, who are the best in dust, are irrelevant in a discussion started with, "To be fair get kid of KB/M because its unfair?" Really? Are you sure just didn't find an opening to start a rant?

I didn't even mention kb/m....

did you understand my post, or even read it?

"This game needs growth thus AA is good."

Right?

... Did EVE care about growth? So why the sudden caring? I think this has more to do with CCP's failure to do something right then them considering the noob experience.

I never said this game needs AA for growth... read it again... get someone to help you with the big words...

I never said this game needs AA for growth... read it again... get someone to help you with the big words...

read it tomorrow when youre sober... if you don't understand my post then, I fear throwing more words at you wont solve this dilemma... instead, at that point, I would suggest a good English tutor

Is aimbot. Not many good players are arguing for it that consistently play PC. Anyone else find that interesting?

Nub514.

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actually this is an excuse. A good player is defined by more then understanding - it's skill. He can aim faster, and better then you. Now that's taken away and the only thing left is 'tactics' Only understanding of the game makes you good.

If that's fine with you then why don't you just admit you're bad and needed the crutch

Your logic flies in the face of thousand years of recorded history. Women in general aren't faster or stronger than men. Sun Tzu trained one hundred concubines to serve as active soldiers for one of his patrons. One of Tzu's tenets is that discipline beats talent one hundred times out of one hundred. He wrote a little treatise on battlefield tactics and philosophy that people still read reverently to this day: (I.e. by real soldiers.) Study of it is required at Annapolis, The M++rwik, The royal military academy, places like that.

What was its name again? "The art of flowers?" "The art of painting?" "The art of cooking?" Can't quite remember it. It's something like that.

Heck, I remember reading about how the Roman legions dominated the west for centuries by having their best soldiers race ahead of everyone else and fight by themselves. True fax, yo. All that biz about The legionaries using teamwork, strategy, and discipline to own anyone who went against them was political care bear b.s. designed to appease casuals.

I play with KB/M
Also, a person who better understands maps and where people are (a.k.a. use tactics) will most of the time do better than someone who just reacts faster and aims better without using tactics. Being skilled at shooters helps make up for this but tactics will always win first, skill dosent help if the people shooting you can get the drop on you.

Were you trying to make a point beyond "Team work is important?" Skill is important too. And Sun Tzu is irrelevant here. The discussion isn't wether or not the top players can still win - TP is proving that. The discussion is Aimbot makes bad players feel good needlessly.

No, actually I made the point, it was pretty clear cut and easy to follow; it even included real-world references to historical--ohhhhh, wait, this is an internet forum argument, where we can pretend someone didn't write something contextual to the discussion at hand, because it goes against someone's stated opinion, right? Gotcha.

And now the discussion is about people feeling good? And people feeling good or whatever, annoys you? What kind of a greasy-haired, wrist cutter logic is that? Emoooooo.

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You seem confused. You want to bring real life into a game. If so - why is the HMG CQC? Oh wait... Dust isn't real life is it? It's a cut throat game where only the best survive. Which is now everyone can do well if they use aimbot.

Use the crutch more scrub.

Whoa, that just devastated my ego! You just did that, man. With your words.

#shakentomycore

since you had no decent response I take it you have no idea how to respond.

So continue using your crutch. Maybe some-day people will think you're good.

Nah. I just didn't have any catchy 90's era Christina Aguilera singles I could weave into a pithy comeback. That would make look like some dude in his early to mid-thirties making dated references to stuff I remember from High school in reference to stuff I'm mad about in my serious video game. I mean, what next? N'sync? Backstreet Boys? WTF are those?

But this is the same company that brought us EVE - a game where skill isn't needed.

LOL.

Ignorance, willful or not, does not make an argument, son.

Are you arguing that a tab target game = skill? LOL Next you'll say all MMO's require 'skill' LOLOLOL

No wonder you're in IO.

LOL again "Tab target game"

If you don't know how something works, it's best not to use assumptions as a point in your argument, mmkay?

Also, attacking me for my corp affiliations because I pointed out a flaw you used in your argument? Stoop any lower and you'll almost be able to smell the shlt I leave behind, because my shlt don't stink.

PS. I actually agree with your OP, but whatever. Just fun to see you get mad.

So laughing at you = mad? Honestly - IDC. CCP will keep the crutch since they want money. But calling EvE skill related was a laugh, and we both know it.

And we both know how bad your corp is. Wasn't it just kicked out of PFC since it was unable to to put out a full team of 16 and your leader has emotional issues? Anyone who follows IO is either a chump or is just lost in someone elses talks.

Backtrack more please. Tell us again about the 'tab target game' and how your mis-assumptions are relevant to your point.

Whether my corp is good or bad has nothing to do with your thread, so keep going cos it's funny watching you derail your own thread. Smacking me and/or my corp seems to be best way to support your argument, to you, so feel free and more power to you

Backtrack more please. Tell us again about the 'tab target game' and how your mis-assumptions are relevant to your point.

Whether my corp is good or bad has nothing to do with your thread, so keep going cos it's funny watching you derail your own thread. Smacking me and/or my corp seems to be best way to support your argument, to you, so feel free and more power to you

He's going to tell you he doesn't care what you think, and that you're getting it wrong. There's never been anyone like him on the internet before. We're all puppets dancing to his string, and in his brilliant game of checkers, we're all pawns to his rook.

He's going to tell you he doesn't care what you think, and that you're getting it wrong. There's never been anyone like him on the internet before. We're all puppets dancing to his string, and in his brilliant game of checkers, we're all pawns to his rook.

Please don't side with me. I don't need any 'crutches' to school him.

HURHURHURDURRR

Oh - I'm sorry - you're right.

Tell you you're in a bad corp and probably bad player is meaningless since you support the idea of AA being bad.

since you had no decent response I take it you have no idea how to respond.

Please don't side with me. I don't need any 'crutches' to school him.

HURHURHURDURRR

Thanks! Too generous.


I take it this applies

You interpretation seems off to my response to him. Want to try again before you look any dumber for getting your troll wrong? Lol

That actually stung a little.

HODOR

Getting my troll wrong? wtf are you talking about?

Pretty sure I did reply - but decided not to take it further since you do support the idea of AA being too strong.

since you had no decent response I take it you have no idea how to respond.

Smacking me and/or my corp seems to be best way to support your argument, to you, so feel free and more power to you

If you don't know then you probably never will. Enjoy the crutch.

Oh look, the bad players are now pointing at KB/M being unfair. Lol

Are you arguing that a tab target game = skill? LOL Next you'll say all MMO's require 'skill' LOLOLOL

No wonder you're in IO.

Who the f@#k are you any way mr npc corp man

Pot calling kettle black me thinks. Who the f@#k are you any way mr npc corp man

Pressing the Tab is something a monkey can do, pressing the Tab when your target is at the ideal distance, ideal speed, heading and rotation from your ship to pop him and you know what ammo you had to load against his ship, hull type and most probably fit he is flying from looking at it for 2-3 seconds....thats takes skill and knowledge of the game.

where on the other hand, you would press Tab and F1 to FIRE ALL WEEAAAAPPOOONSSS at random = you get podded in your more expensive ship

I'm going to be generous and say, second best troll on these forums - Sota Pop

Hush now. Don't forget, EVE is a 'tab target game'. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

So whose the first? Lol

Okay okay - I admit I know very little about EVE and made a flawed assumption.

Remove KB/M then if you people are so scarred ofthe game being unfair

No idea how it's the pot calling the kettle black - explain that one?

I'm going to be generous and say, second best troll on these forums - Sota Pop

Winey bad player whinging about other "bad players" whining.

Thank you good sir.

Winey bad player whinging about other "bad players" whining.

I'm not running a public service here.

Let me get this straight - a bad player whose never been in PC more then 3 times is calling a player whose been consistently in PC since it's launched by many corps asking to ring - bad? Lol

You should learn whose alt belongs to who before you bite more then you can chew - scrub.

Haha how do yoi know my record??? Hiw many alts do you think iv got if your so good why you hiding behind an alt. I never post from my alts because guess what i dont give a flying f@#k .

Haha how do yoi know my record??? Hiw many alts do you think iv got if your so good why you hiding behind an alt. I never post from my alts because guess what i dont give a flying f@#k .

You just lost this argument with that post. I'd advise you to stop now before it gets bad.

Not taking sides BTW. Just yet another great Public Service brought to you by dustwaffle.

He's got nearly 1,000 likes I'm sure he can handle his own.

Okay okay - I admit I know very little about EVE and made a flawed assumption.

What is happening here?

You just lost this argument with that post. I'd advise you to stop now before it gets bad.

Not taking sides BTW. Just yet another great Public Service brought to you by dustwaffle.

Sigh ...... yep your right iv never ringed it or been mercked. Unless you have played in every battle regarding pc then you cant really comment on hiw many pc games inhave or am going to play in. Try again.

Shoulda taken my advice.

Don't quote the wrong person when responding to someone else.

tl;dr of the tthread:

"...aim assist... crutch users... EVE sucks... Ill Omens suck ... no you suck ... no u ...dustwaffle best waffle... Sota Pop second best troll....no u a trollololol"

5 pages in one sentence.

lol, i can confirm this is legit!

tl;dr of the tthread:

"...aim assist... crutch users... EVE sucks... Ill Omens suck ... no you suck ... no u ...dustwaffle best waffle... Sota Pop second best troll....no u a trollololol"

5 pages in one sentence.

Oh look, the bad players are now pointing at KB/M being unfair. Lol