DUST Search - Wu-Master, you owe me money.

843 Epidemic wrote:

I didn't want it to come to this, as this is an embarrassment for me as well as it is for you and your corporation.

On the date: 2013.08.18 I, 843-BANE, had purchased the corporation 'Stardust incorporation' from Wu-master. This was for 60 million ISK, which was paid before the corp was then handed to me, out of the goodness of my heart and the lack of trust Wu-master seemed to have.

Later on, it became apparent that the corporation and the deal was not as promised, and I agreed to re-sell the corporation back to Wu-master for 40 million ISK, 20 million ISK less than the original deal. I felt this was generous, as only 10 members or so from the corporation had joined up with me, so not much was deprived from the corporation. Wu-master felt this was unfair on him, however agreed and accepted the deal.

Although originally I gave Wu the 60 million BEFORE the transfer was made, out of my own trust, Wu-master demanded that he only give me half the money before the return of the roles, and half afterwards. I, foolishly, accepted these terms as it seems he was out of pot. He had 2 weeks to give me the remaining 20 million ISK, which would have been the 9th of September.

As you can see in this image -> http://tinypic.com/r/2q9x84z/5 I let Wu off, and gave him until the 10th to give me the isk. He then replies "the 9th septembre is perfect". I message him then on the 9th, and he requests that it be moved to the 11th. Despite the fact I tell him that is unacceptable, he does not reply. It is now the 12th. I had warned him via message that this thread will be bumped and re-posted if needs be until the isk is sent.

No, Wu-master. I am no fool, nor a mug. 20 million isk is nothing to me, and it's not even my money. It's my corporations, this is a matter of principal, and I am calling you out until you pay that 20 million ISK. I went easy on you, and I gave you fair chances and fair warning.

The original thread where the deal was made can be found here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102470&p=2 where you will find Wu, after my post about re-selling the corp, already trying to sell it again.

Your move.

- BANE

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843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 143	Posted - 2013.09.12 16:56:00 - [1] - Quote I didn't want it to come to this, as this is an embarrassment for me as well as it is for you and your corporation. On the date: 2013.08.18 I, 843-BANE, had purchased the corporation 'Stardust incorporation' from Wu-master. This was for 60 million ISK, which was paid before the corp was then handed to me, out of the goodness of my heart and the lack of trust Wu-master seemed to have. Later on, it became apparent that the corporation and the deal was not as promised, and I agreed to re-sell the corporation back to Wu-master for 40 million ISK, 20 million ISK less than the original deal. I felt this was generous, as only 10 members or so from the corporation had joined up with me, so not much was deprived from the corporation. Wu-master felt this was unfair on him, however agreed and accepted the deal. Although originally I gave Wu the 60 million BEFORE the transfer was made, out of my own trust, Wu-master demanded that he only give me half the money before the return of the roles, and half afterwards. I, foolishly, accepted these terms as it seems he was out of pot. He had 2 weeks to give me the remaining 20 million ISK, which would have been the 9th of September. As you can see in this image -> http://tinypic.com/r/2q9x84z/5 I let Wu off, and gave him until the 10th to give me the isk. He then replies "the 9th septembre is perfect". I message him then on the 9th, and he requests that it be moved to the 11th. Despite the fact I tell him that is unacceptable, he does not reply. It is now the 12th. I had warned him via message that this thread will be bumped and re-posted if needs be until the isk is sent. No, Wu-master. I am no fool, nor a mug. 20 million isk is nothing to me, and it's not even my money. It's my corporations, this is a matter of principal, and I am calling you out until you pay that 20 million ISK. I went easy on you, and I gave you fair chances and fair warning. The original thread where the deal was made can be found here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102470&p=2 where you will find Wu, after my post about re-selling the corp, already trying to sell it again. Your move. - BANE
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 2367	Posted - 2013.09.12 16:58:00 - [2] - Quote I want 20mil ISK from Wu-Master too! \o/
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3148	Posted - 2013.09.12 16:59:00 - [3] - Quote Scammed. GJ. Ah, New Eden...
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3425	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:07:00 - [4] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: I want 20mil ISK from Wu-Master too! \o/ I second this, plus OP you don't seriously expect your money back do you? Scamming is an accepted and time honoured habit in new Eden, you're just going to have to HTFU and get on with your life.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 417	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:11:00 - [5] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: I didn't want it to come to this, as this is an embarrassment for me as well as it is for you and your corporation. On the date: 2013.08.18 I, 843-BANE, had purchased the corporation 'Stardust incorporation' from Wu-master. This was for 60 million ISK, which was paid before the corp was then handed to me, out of the goodness of my heart and the lack of trust Wu-master seemed to have. Later on, it became apparent that the corporation and the deal was not as promised, and I agreed to re-sell the corporation back to Wu-master for 40 million ISK, 20 million ISK less than the original deal. I felt this was generous, as only 10 members or so from the corporation had joined up with me, so not much was deprived from the corporation. Wu-master felt this was unfair on him, however agreed and accepted the deal. Although originally I gave Wu the 60 million BEFORE the transfer was made, out of my own trust, Wu-master demanded that he only give me half the money before the return of the roles, and half afterwards. I, foolishly, accepted these terms as it seems he was out of pot. He had 2 weeks to give me the remaining 20 million ISK, which would have been the 9th of September. As you can see in this image -> http://tinypic.com/r/2q9x84z/5 I let Wu off, and gave him until the 10th to give me the isk. He then replies "the 9th septembre is perfect". I message him then on the 9th, and he requests that it be moved to the 11th. Despite the fact I tell him that is unacceptable, he does not reply. It is now the 12th. I had warned him via message that this thread will be bumped and re-posted if needs be until the isk is sent. No, Wu-master. I am no fool, nor a mug. 20 million isk is nothing to me, and it's not even my money. It's my corporations, this is a matter of principal, and I am calling you out until you pay that 20 million ISK. I went easy on you, and I gave you fair chances and fair warning. The original thread where the deal was made can be found here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102470&p=2 where you will find Wu, after my post about re-selling the corp, already trying to sell it again. Your move. - BANE Looks like you got played, welcome to new eden my dear boy!! Why do feel the need to buy him out anyway?
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative.. 842	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:15:00 - [6] - Quote lol i love it,
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 143	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:17:00 - [7] - Quote @everyone and their "welcome to new eden" Yes I'm aware, and I don't care about the ISK physically. Do you really think that's going to stop me from acting upon it? If it was a large amount, sure, I'd have been careful. But this was a test of character for him, I misjudged, and here we are. The fellas over at Stardust incorporation are lovely people, don't get me wrong. I don't need the pep talk, I will get my isk
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 299	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:22:00 - [8] - Quote I'm sure this will be taken care of after the some 150 or more players that scam in Jita everyday are dealt with. No fool eh?
bjorn morkai Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:24:00 - [9] - Quote Quote: out of the goodness of my heart and the lack of trust Wu-master seemed to have. Translation: I am a giant sucker. But don't fret I'll actually read the rest of your post. Yeah nah after reading all that you are a giant sucker.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 143	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:24:00 - [10] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: I'm sure this will be taken care of after the some 150 or more players that scam in Jita everyday are dealt with. No fool eh? No, not really. it's 20 million isk. Chump change. If I gave much of a damn about the physical amount I wouldn't go posting on the forums. The reason I'm doing this is because he told me not to post anything on the forums because he feared for his public reputation or something, so here I am ^_^

Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 417	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:24:00 - [11] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: @everyone and their "welcome to new eden" Yes I'm aware, and I don't care about the ISK physically. Do you really think that's going to stop me from acting upon it? If it was a large amount, sure, I'd have been careful. But this was a test of character for him, I misjudged, and here we are. The fellas over at Stardust incorporation are lovely people, don't get me wrong. I don't need the pep talk, I will get my isk No you won't, hes probably already blown it on a tank!! There isn't any way you can enforece it, CONCORD, won't care, the most you can do is put a bounty on his head, but be sure to pay up, or you might end up with one your self!!
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 143	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:28:00 - [12] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: @everyone and their "welcome to new eden" Yes I'm aware, and I don't care about the ISK physically. Do you really think that's going to stop me from acting upon it? If it was a large amount, sure, I'd have been careful. But this was a test of character for him, I misjudged, and here we are. The fellas over at Stardust incorporation are lovely people, don't get me wrong. I don't need the pep talk, I will get my isk No you won't, hes probably already blown it on a tank!! There isn't any way you can enforece it, CONCORD, won't care, the most you can do is put a bounty on his head, but be sure to pay up, or you might end up with one your self!! We'll see won't we ;-)
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 417	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:30:00 - [13] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: @everyone and their "welcome to new eden" Yes I'm aware, and I don't care about the ISK physically. Do you really think that's going to stop me from acting upon it? If it was a large amount, sure, I'd have been careful. But this was a test of character for him, I misjudged, and here we are. The fellas over at Stardust incorporation are lovely people, don't get me wrong. I don't need the pep talk, I will get my isk No you won't, hes probably already blown it on a tank!! There isn't any way you can enforece it, CONCORD, won't care, the most you can do is put a bounty on his head, but be sure to pay up, or you might end up with one your self!! We'll see won't we ;-) I look forward to accepting your bounty!!
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 612	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:32:00 - [14] - Quote Me too! I'll double what you give me!
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 465	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:32:00 - [15] - Quote Perhaps this is a lack of knowledge, but why would someone buy a corporation instead of just creating their own? Sounds like you got scammed.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 143	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:32:00 - [16] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: @everyone and their "welcome to new eden" Yes I'm aware, and I don't care about the ISK physically. Do you really think that's going to stop me from acting upon it? If it was a large amount, sure, I'd have been careful. But this was a test of character for him, I misjudged, and here we are. The fellas over at Stardust incorporation are lovely people, don't get me wrong. I don't need the pep talk, I will get my isk No you won't, hes probably already blown it on a tank!! There isn't any way you can enforece it, CONCORD, won't care, the most you can do is put a bounty on his head, but be sure to pay up, or you might end up with one your self!! We'll see won't we ;-) I look forward to accepting your bounty!! I look forward to that too ;-)
Draka Marintu TeamPlayers EoN. 129	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:35:00 - [17] - Quote Should a used an escrow service
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1461	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:38:00 - [18] - Quote Aside from the obligatory Welcome to New Eden & HTFU, does anyone else find the concept of selling a corp completely counter-intuitive? The only thing I can imagine really transfers over is the name.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 489	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:59:00 - [19] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Aside from the obligatory Welcome to New Eden & HTFU, does anyone else find the concept of selling a corp completely counter-intuitive? The only thing I can imagine really transfers over is the name. I was actually trying to buy a merger from him...He didn't seem legit after I asked him a few questions and tried to look up his corporation and see what they were about. Plus I didn't want to make someone a full on director when I only knew them through a business deal that could be...a scam. Feel sorry for you, man. Should've really digged into him for information. I mean I only asked him a few questions and he didn't seem to give me proper responses and I went off of that. Edit: And maybe he wasn't a scammer...maybe he just didn't had his crap together but that was just enough of a reason for me to not deal with it.
Cpl Foster USMC ENDTIME INDUSTRIES 188	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:06:00 - [20] - Quote reads thread--- wonders why I read this thread....

Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 417	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:04:00 - [21] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Aside from the obligatory Welcome to New Eden & HTFU, does anyone else find the concept of selling a corp completely counter-intuitive? The only thing I can imagine really transfers over is the name. Depends, if your in a war with them, you could potentially buy them out to reduces cost, loss of clones etc. But really its only worth it if the company has transferable assets! Or maybe you really want the name!!
Halfwings Warbringer ThislsWhyimhot 39	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:07:00 - [22] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: I didn't want it to come to this, as this is an embarrassment for me as well as it is for you and your corporation. On the date: 2013.08.18 I, 843-BANE, had purchased the corporation 'Stardust incorporation' from Wu-master. This was for 60 million ISK, which was paid before the corp was then handed to me, out of the goodness of my heart and the lack of trust Wu-master seemed to have. Later on, it became apparent that the corporation and the deal was not as promised, and I agreed to re-sell the corporation back to Wu-master for 40 million ISK, 20 million ISK less than the original deal. I felt this was generous, as only 10 members or so from the corporation had joined up with me, so not much was deprived from the corporation. Wu-master felt this was unfair on him, however agreed and accepted the deal. Although originally I gave Wu the 60 million BEFORE the transfer was made, out of my own trust, Wu-master demanded that he only give me half the money before the return of the roles, and half afterwards. I, foolishly, accepted these terms as it seems he was out of pot. He had 2 weeks to give me the remaining 20 million ISK, which would have been the 9th of September. As you can see in this image -> http://tinypic.com/r/2q9x84z/5 I let Wu off, and gave him until the 10th to give me the isk. He then replies "the 9th septembre is perfect". I message him then on the 9th, and he requests that it be moved to the 11th. Despite the fact I tell him that is unacceptable, he does not reply. It is now the 12th. I had warned him via message that this thread will be bumped and re-posted if needs be until the isk is sent. No, Wu-master. I am no fool, nor a mug. 20 million isk is nothing to me, and it's not even my money. It's my corporations, this is a matter of principal, and I am calling you out until you pay that 20 million ISK. I went easy on you, and I gave you fair chances and fair warning. The original thread where the deal was made can be found here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102470&p=2 where you will find Wu, after my post about re-selling the corp, already trying to sell it again. Your move. - BANE There nothing u can do even u qq at forum deal with it u have been scramed
Rudy Vandersario The Nimbor Corporation 48	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:23:00 - [23] - Quote It's pretty obvious you got scammed and the fact you made it so easy for him is embarrassing. The moral of the story is don't trust people you don't know with any of your money, be it a large amount or not. By the sound of it you already knew that... but then you wouldn't be in this situation if you really did.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1683	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:27:00 - [24] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: I didn't want it to come to this, as this is an embarrassment for me as well as it is for you and your corporation. On the date: 2013.08.18 I, 843-BANE, had purchased the corporation 'Stardust incorporation' from Wu-master. This was for 60 million ISK, which was paid before the corp was then handed to me, out of the goodness of my heart and the lack of trust Wu-master seemed to have. Later on, it became apparent that the corporation and the deal was not as promised, and I agreed to re-sell the corporation back to Wu-master for 40 million ISK, 20 million ISK less than the original deal. I felt this was generous, as only 10 members or so from the corporation had joined up with me, so not much was deprived from the corporation. Wu-master felt this was unfair on him, however agreed and accepted the deal. Although originally I gave Wu the 60 million BEFORE the transfer was made, out of my own trust, Wu-master demanded that he only give me half the money before the return of the roles, and half afterwards. I, foolishly, accepted these terms as it seems he was out of pot. He had 2 weeks to give me the remaining 20 million ISK, which would have been the 9th of September. As you can see in this image -> http://tinypic.com/r/2q9x84z/5 I let Wu off, and gave him until the 10th to give me the isk. He then replies "the 9th septembre is perfect". I message him then on the 9th, and he requests that it be moved to the 11th. Despite the fact I tell him that is unacceptable, he does not reply. It is now the 12th. I had warned him via message that this thread will be bumped and re-posted if needs be until the isk is sent. No, Wu-master. I am no fool, nor a mug. 20 million isk is nothing to me, and it's not even my money. It's my corporations, this is a matter of principal, and I am calling you out until you pay that 20 million ISK. I went easy on you, and I gave you fair chances and fair warning. The original thread where the deal was made can be found here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102470&p=2 where you will find Wu, after my post about re-selling the corp, already trying to sell it again. Your move. - BANE Buying a corporation? And you were scammed? Oh noes! Whatever is coming to the honesty of New Eden????? Oh wait, there was never honesty here.
Rudy Vandersario The Nimbor Corporation 48	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:33:00 - [25] - Quote Just read the thread that you linked, just a word of advice if you get an email from a Nigerian prince who needs your bank account details so he can open an orphanage in your name, do not send them. Happy to help!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4132	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:35:00 - [26] - Quote This is one of those things that you normally only see in Eve Online and Dust. Welcome to New Eden. You got played like a kitty played with a ball of yarn.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4134	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:41:00 - [27] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: @everyone and their "welcome to new eden" Yes I'm aware, and I don't care about the ISK physically. Do you really think that's going to stop me from acting upon it? If it was a large amount, sure, I'd have been careful. But this was a test of character for him, I misjudged, and here we are. The fellas over at Stardust incorporation are lovely people, don't get me wrong. I don't need the pep talk, I will get my isk How will you get it back? By trying to hunt him down? We don't even have a functional bounty-hunting system yet. Your argument is as valid as the Earth being flat and 6,000 years old. Also, if you are aware of what goes on in New Eden, why did you even bother to post this on the forums? Do you even realize that by posting that here you only strengthened the reputation of the scammer because... well... scammers are saluted and respected here in New Eden. They are smart enough and charismatic enough to fool people like you. You only hurt your reputation by posting this here.
Aria Gomes DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.09.12 23:09:00 - [28] - Quote Cash rules everything around.CREAM! Get the money. Dollar dollar bills yall. Sorry whenever I see them online I gotta rap a Wu-Tang song.
Wu-master Stardust incorporation 24	Posted - 2013.09.13 09:24:00 - [29] - Quote YOU know the funny part ,i give you my trust before you buy the corp i open my corp to you as a director , you see all the bank account transaction , members list and i never try to force your hand on the deal. Now lets talk business and serious now . My dealine was for the 9 september and i was suppose to give you the others half so 20 millions for 40 millions . 1-You didn't respect the first deal of the contract . Wu-master wrote: the CEO need to be very actif ,talk english and be a social person . Plan to make sure the corp growing up and work with me to advance the corporation . contact me in PM . You can visit the corporation anytime to see what's going on. The deal off in 5 days from now you need the skills corporation to operate that transaction . You send a corporation message to the members saying : join 843 boot camp without me supervising . 2- I ask 80 m and a go down for 60. i deal honestly with you and i try to find a compromise and i did just like you .I could'it leave in the first place wen you give me the 60 . 3-You hade the corp and you sell back to me. After you crash the corp and recruit 12 members minimum i propose you to rebuy the corp back in your hand and you deal with me like i was your slave or like im working for you now , but you dont get it .YOU ask me 40 m and we argue about the price. I ask you to give it away at 30 m and you refuse the offert to put it 40m even you know the corp is unstable .Plus i know you would sell back the corp over wu- discipline so i take the deal to pay 20m first and give you the reste later ..but why should i respect now the payments delay if you did respect the contract in the first place after you eat on my table and worst in my plate .I ask you to send you 2 or 3 millions each week until you get 20m but you say no to that. 4- reputation 2 days passe after the deadline and you trying by starting to dirt my name, i just give you a lesson about do not cross me . Sell me a name is ok for 30 m but not 40 m . You lucky my corp members ask to send you the money but im keep asking myself why should i pay you after all this.Look like you dont know how to deal with situations .
dustwaffle Ill Omens 498	Posted - 2013.09.13 09:43:00 - [30] - Quote ITT: e-honour, its abuse and disabuse



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