Switch HMG and AR range Profiles

You're a cruel one Mr 12.

I said nothing about dispersion, It means the weapon needs fired longer to be used at long range

There have actually been quite a few threads on how to improve Scouts, with many of the suggestions hovering around speed increases, CPU/PG increases and tweaks to slot count/stealh.

Personally, while I'd be thrilled with scan profile reduction to 30db, that seems a bit much. The speed increase to, would be awesome but make scouts insanely fast after skilling into biotics and using kin/cats.

My preference is +.2 to walk speed, +.4 to sprint. Scan range to 15m, Scan profile and precision to 40 dbm.

I don't think we need extra health or slots, but some more CPU/PG would help..... a lot of folks are all for 2 EQ slots, at maybe the cost of the sidearm (per Chrome "B" scouts) - I could make that work.

Scouts
Lower Base profile down to 30
Increase base speed by 1 m/s walking 2m/s running
Increase base CPU/PG.

Heavies
Give Sentinel 3% resistance per level to light weapons and sidearms
Give Sentinel +20% Armor repairer efficiency bonus per level (At level 5 a single complex repairs x2 = 12.5)
Increase HMG damage by 1.5 and range by 15mts.

Boom

Add your own proposals below

Fixed*

(IMO)

There have actually been quite a few threads on how to improve Scouts, with many of the suggestions hovering around speed increases, CPU/PG increases and tweaks to slot count/stealh.

Personally, while I'd be thrilled with scan profile reduction to 30db, that seems a bit much. The speed increase to, would be awesome but make scouts insanely fast after skilling into biotics and using kin/cats.

My preference is +.2 to walk speed, +.4 to sprint. Scan range to 15m, Scan profile and precision to 40 dbm.

I don't think we need extra health or slots, but some more CPU/PG would help..... a lot of folks are all for 2 EQ slots, at maybe the cost of the sidearm (per Chrome "B" scouts) - I could make that work.

Scouts
Lower Base profile down to 30
Increase base speed by .5 m/s walking .7 m/s running
Increase Scan radius to 20 m
increase base PG/CPU

Light suits
add an additional equipment slot
increase base PG/CPU

Heavies
Give Sentinel 5% resistance per level to light weapons and sidearms
Switch HMG and AR range Profiles

Boom

Add your own proposals below

I said nothing about dispersion, It means the weapon needs fired longer to be used at long range

I don't think this is gonna fix lights/scouts much. That 'sneakiness' does not make up much for paper thin eHP now that speed tanking is gone.

Neither did I. Not trying to criticize either. Just saying damage number swapping is mean.

I'm still anti-nerf.

I agree to base PG/CPU

I'll say Repairers are a Gallente thing that's why I went with Resistance.

HMG's will be better at range like projectile weapons usually are when compared to Blaster weapons

Changing range profiles will increase the damage at range

25% will be just right, It'll make heavies scary...

I think maybe explosive resistance would be good enough. 20% armor repair is way too much IMO. Think about how it could be abused to running 2-3 complex repairs. You could make back your total armor in a matter of seconds. It would make them too hard to take down individually and I would expect to see multiple heavies on the field. Just too much for my taste, but it's an interesting idea.

Scouts
Lower Base profile down to 30
Increase base speed by 1 m/s walking 1.5 m/s running
Increase Scan radius to 20 m
increase base PG/CPU

Light suits
add an additional equipment slot
increase base PG/CPU

Heavies
Give Sentinel 5% resistance per level to light weapons and sidearms
Switch HMG and AR range Profiles

Boom

Add your own proposals below

I don't think this is gonna fix lights/scouts much. That 'sneakiness' does not make up much for paper thin eHP now that speed tanking is gone.

Scouts
Lower Base profile down to 30
Increase base speed by 1 m/s walking 1.5 m/s running
Increase Scan radius to 20 m
increase base PG/CPU

Light suits
add an additional equipment slot
increase base PG/CPU

Heavies
Give Sentinel 5% resistance per level to light weapons and sidearms
Switch HMG and AR range Profiles

Boom

Add your own proposals below

I said nothing about dispersion, It means the weapon needs fired longer to be used at long range

Fixed*

(IMO)

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1292374#post1292374

The AR is supposed to be short range...

Wait.. So you mean, the suppression weapon would become feared at range - AKA, able to suppress?!

And the blaster(short range tech) would actually be short range?!

Gasp! The peasants will revolt if they hear such blasphemy!!

(Great idea though, especially considering Dispersion would still be the limiting factor out to the guns effective range)

Wait.. So you mean, the suppression weapon would become feared at range - AKA, able to suppress?!

And the blaster(short range tech) would actually be short range?!

Gasp! The peasants will revolt if they hear such blasphemy!!

(Great idea though, especially considering Dispersion would still be the limiting factor out to the guns effective range)

I think the suggestion for heavy "fixes" that holds the most merit is a percentage per level resistance on the Amarr frame. Gallente(lol never going to be released at this rate) should sport the rep bonus. I don't think heavy frames are in nearly as bad of spot as most of GD feels, but a resistance bonus would be a nice quality of life change. I think 3% per level sounds fair, but I wouldn't complain if it was 5% per level.

As for switching the profiles of the hmg and AR, that seems a very silly suggestion. I understand as well as anyone that our "mini-gun" does not function nearly as well as it's real life counterpart. But, this is Dust so why would weapons perform like they do in real life? The problem of HMG range (lol, not nearly as bad as people like to cry) can be easily solved by the introduction of new heavy weapons. So, instead of fundamentally changing the game and fun factor of AR players, you can add a longer range weapon to heavy frames.

Switching range profiles will only serve to "dumb down" an aspect of the game. It will solve the perceived problem with the HMG through a nerf/buff instead of new content. New content on the other hand can solve the perceived problem of the HMG by adding complexity and choice to the game.

TLDR: Good thinking on the resistance buff. The HMG buff, however, would only serve as a crude band-aid fix to a small problem.

Scouts
Lower Base profile down to 30
Increase base speed by 1 m/s walking 1.5 m/s running
Increase Scan radius to 20 m
increase base PG/CPU

Light suits
add an additional equipment slot
increase base PG/CPU

Heavies
Give Sentinel 5% resistance per level to light weapons and sidearms
Switch HMG and AR range Profiles

Boom

Add your own proposals below

Gal advanced scout get proper 1h/3l modules.

Scouts

- increase run and walk speed dramatically, so much so that a minimatar assualt would need to stack proto kincats to achive their base run speed

- Increase both races cpu / pg

- double scouts only strafe speed

Gallente

- at proto level
2 highs
4 lows

Min
- at proto
4 highs
2 lows

as a scout I think all those buffs will make my suit OP!

base profile to 40
0.5 increase to walking, 0.7 to sprinting.
yes scan to 20 .
YESSSSSS MORE PG/CPU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


[EDIT] well, at least adding all these together might make it OP, CCP needs to start with small buffs.

That's overkill

how about this, i agree with the resistance per level, now imagine if the HMG slows enemies trapped on the chain of fire, but also makes the enemy flinch making aiming a lot harder, of course this is when you are face to face with a heavy, plus the resistance heavies will be SCARY in CQC, now the scout, well the scout needs a movement buff, for the gallente scout i think 2 high slots and 3 low and for all scouts a cpu/pg buff, and i think that when optical camouflage comes it will need to be restricted to scouts and it ti be a passive ability more than a handheld device, the faster you move the easier will be to see you, now if you sprint, fire, use equipment, jump, sustain dmg, being hit by a flux nade or being scanned will reveal you, and the cloak will go into cooldown, and maybe more weapons to scouts, the new types of SMG, or even equipments like jump packs, or remotes explosives that stick to things or people, proximity mines and maybe, just maybe, an placeable item the reveals nearby enemies like the wards in league of legends, or RC or AI controlled drones, the sky is the limit of the possibilities.

, now the scout, well the scout needs a movement buff, for the gallente scout i think 2 high slots and 3 low and for all scouts a cpu/pg buff, and i think that when optical camouflage comes it will need to be restricted to scouts and it ti be a passive ability more than a handheld device, the faster you move the easier will be to see you, now if you sprint, fire, use equipment, jump, sustain dmg, being hit by a flux nade or being scanned will reveal you, and the cloak will go into cooldown, and maybe more weapons to scouts, the new types of SMG, or even equipments like jump packs, or remotes explosives that stick to things or people, proximity mines and maybe, just maybe, an placeable item the reveals nearby enemies like the wards in league of legends, or RC or AI controlled drones, the sky is the limit of the possibilities.

scout need a 12 % boost in sprint ,active scanner and disguise( like the infiltrator class in killzone 3) and invisible cloak device integrated in the suit ,also have the capability to get undetected by enemies scanner( active anti scanner devise that'll hide the player during 1 to 5 min base on the tier suit ( example once activated a std can hide from scan for 1 min and u wait 3 min to reusing it again).