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Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:

In the future fw battles will become more meanjngful. They already work on introducing standing and so on. Why should i be forced to always get a whole team together just to participate? What you want to do is changing fw to corp battles just for your own desire to have high level fights. That's not what fw is there for. You can't just run around, wanting to lock out blueberries who just want to play some rounds without having to do organized squad action of everything that influences eve online.

You may have noticed that i am in a corp. I also participated in several pc battles. But more than often i just want to sit back, turn my mic off and just have fun without having to be overly serious and without having to talk to my squad. But at the same time i want to jnfluence eve online. I don't care about pub matches at all. I do care about fw though, even in its current state and i see no reason to change it so only top players can participate.

And have you even thought this through? Making fw team deploy only would GREATLY reduce the amount of players participating in it. And there aren't exactly few fw-systems. There are even a lot more planets and on these planets there are more than just 1 district. You don't even try to look at the bigger picture. All you care about are the battles you would fight in. You don't care about the eve side of fw. But fw is the first real link we have to eve. That's what this is about.

Besides that, foxfour isn't asking about what they should change at fw in general. He's asking about statistics we want to see. That ccp is working on fw and wants to make it stand out from pub matches is no secret at all.

How hard would it be to create faction channels where people could form teams?

If there are 16 slots for the battle you should be able to fill them. We share different opinions.

In my opinion we don't need more game modes where teammates are not contributing at all to the fight.


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Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 693	Posted - 2013.09.11 19:31:00 - [1] - Quote What I would like to know: How much influence did my battle have on the Dust modifier for the faction I fought for. And how much time did this save or cost Eve pilots in the system How strong is the Dust modifier at the moment in the System I fought. I would also like to have a colored 3D map of the planet, with every color showing which faction is currently holding the district. You could also show the army movements on that map Jagged Alliance style. So we would see where we succesfully defended and attacked. It would also be nice to see some percentages of how many districts each faction holds on the planet / system. I especially agree with "Did this battle make the system vulnerable in EVE". Actually I didn't even know we could do something like this. I would like further explanation though, because I never really understood how FW-systems work. Also when you've added skyfire batteries I would like to know which ships it blew up. Or which ships it helped to blow up. Friendly as well as enemy. So, some kind of kill mail. How many militia ships exploded in space in the system and how much were they worth As a side note: Let us chose again in which system we want to fight in in FW. The new matchmaking is pretty good, but I want to be able to chose the system and the planet I want to fight on. Queueing up for FW should not instantly throw you into a battle but give you some available battles to chose from. Actually. I don't even care that much about having matchmaking in FW. For public matches that is very good, but in FW I want to feel more of the Sandbox. The total list of all available battles was good, if there were just enough battles so you don't have to wait. The problem was, that you barely found a FW match before 1.4 Not how you chose them.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 696	Posted - 2013.09.11 20:59:00 - [2] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I proto stomp in FW and I urge my corporation to do so as well. FW should be dangerous. It should be TEAM DEPLOY ONLY in proto gear and the rewards should justify this. If FW is done right there wouldn't be a need for matchmaking in pub matches. Because more experienced players would be elsewhere for the bigger payouts. No. It shouldn't be team deploy only. Actually this is the last thing it should be. FW should introduce blueberries to a little more serious PvP. Like meeting Corp squads more often than in public matches. But it should be open for everyone. This isn't PC. If you start with a FW Teamdeploy only, then FW isn't like a Pub skirmish anymore, it will become exactly like PC. Like in Eve, everybody should be able to participate in FW and get the benefits. The problem is that, at the moment, there aren't any benefits in FW.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 701	Posted - 2013.09.12 00:14:00 - [3] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I proto stomp in FW and I urge my corporation to do so as well. FW should be dangerous. It should be TEAM DEPLOY ONLY in proto gear and the rewards should justify this. If FW is done right there wouldn't be a need for matchmaking in pub matches. Because more experienced players would be elsewhere for the bigger payouts. No. It shouldn't be team deploy only. Actually this is the last thing it should be. FW should introduce blueberries to a little more serious PvP. Like meeting Corp squads more often than in public matches. But it should be open for everyone. This isn't PC. If you start with a FW Teamdeploy only, then FW isn't like a Pub skirmish anymore, it will become exactly like PC. Like in Eve, everybody should be able to participate in FW and get the benefits. The problem is that, at the moment, there aren't any benefits in FW. Then join a corp and get on a team. And it would be nothing like PC. Losing a few FW will not break a corp up. Players won't be left out of FW battles for months as they skill their character up. It will allow and incentivize corps to bring in and train players that will later participate in PC. There are pub matches for solo and squad deployments. You could take a a fleet with as many as you have online for FW in Eve. And the most important thing, this isn't Eve. I can keep going and going with reasons why Team Deploy would be great for FW. And it has to be limited to team deploy or it will just be redline after redline. In the future fw battles will become more meanjngful. They already work on introducing standing and so on. Why should i be forced to always get a whole team together just to participate? What you want to do is changing fw to corp battles just for your own desire to have high level fights. That's not what fw is there for. You can't just run around, wanting to lock out blueberries who just want to play some rounds without having to do organized squad action of everything that influences eve online. You may have noticed that i am in a corp. I also participated in several pc battles. But more than often i just want to sit back, turn my mic off and just have fun without having to be overly serious and without having to talk to my squad. But at the same time i want to jnfluence eve online. I don't care about pub matches at all. I do care about fw though, even in its current state and i see no reason to change it so only top players can participate. And have you even thought this through? Making fw team deploy only would GREATLY reduce the amount of players participating in it. And there aren't exactly few fw-systems. There are even a lot more planets and on these planets there are more than just 1 district. You don't even try to look at the bigger picture. All you care about would be the battles you would fight in. Besides that, foxfour isn't asking about what they should change at fw in general. He's asking about statistics we want to see. That ccp is working on fw and wants to make it stand out from pub matches is no secret at all.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 710	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:42:00 - [4] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: In the future fw battles will become more meanjngful. They already work on introducing standing and so on. Why should i be forced to always get a whole team together just to participate? What you want to do is changing fw to corp battles just for your own desire to have high level fights. That's not what fw is there for. You can't just run around, wanting to lock out blueberries who just want to play some rounds without having to do organized squad action of everything that influences eve online. You may have noticed that i am in a corp. I also participated in several pc battles. But more than often i just want to sit back, turn my mic off and just have fun without having to be overly serious and without having to talk to my squad. But at the same time i want to jnfluence eve online. I don't care about pub matches at all. I do care about fw though, even in its current state and i see no reason to change it so only top players can participate. And have you even thought this through? Making fw team deploy only would GREATLY reduce the amount of players participating in it. And there aren't exactly few fw-systems. There are even a lot more planets and on these planets there are more than just 1 district. You don't even try to look at the bigger picture. All you care about are the battles you would fight in. You don't care about the eve side of fw. But fw is the first real link we have to eve. That's what this is about. Besides that, foxfour isn't asking about what they should change at fw in general. He's asking about statistics we want to see. That ccp is working on fw and wants to make it stand out from pub matches is no secret at all. How hard would it be to create faction channels where people could form teams? If there are 16 slots for the battle you should be able to fill them. We share different opinions. In my opinion we don't need more game modes where teammates are not contributing at all to the fight. If you throw blueberries together again, then how would this be any different from the current system? You would just make it more of a pain in the ass to get into a FW-battle.