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MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
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Posted - 2013.09.11 16:17:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I'm pretty sure Heavy suits were made in mind with a defense role position, that is why they are slow they stay and defend objective area's and not run out into fire fights. If you are interested in running around capture objectives try assault or scout.
Oh yea, where did you get that idea? Out of your ass? Who said that specifically heavies should have to sit and wait for MAYBE a kill? Why is it that every suit has an option to play for both offensive and defensive but the heavy is stuck to one role? Who ever said sending in something that deals tons of damage and takes tons of damage into battle first so that the lesser health teammates can pick of the skimmings was a bad idea? NO one, because it's not. |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 16:22:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Dual Ishukone Assault SMG's, Allotek flux grenades, and over 900 armor.
Say hello to the city smasher. You know, I came here with the intention of writing a post in defense of HMG fatties. But I have the skills for the SMG thing you're suggesting already...I'm going to have to give that bad boy a try for **** and giggles. Boundless HMG has 48% higher DPS on paper. But hey, I'll try it before I knock it. I only have prof 4 on my SMG's, but the combo of proto flux and dual damage mods make the twin SMG's very lethal up close. The biggest difference is that in on/off trigger situations, the SMG's out DPS the HMG by a country mile. Where you lose out is in a sustained fire fight. Two or three levels into SMG sharpshooter will help turn the tide versus shotguns and mass drivers in a pinch.
I will also have to give this a try. How is your stamina like? |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 16:32:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:You can't even be point defense anymore....the hmg while it was improved didn't get near as much as a benefit from 1.4 than the ar .......the ar requires 0 skill now just point and shoot.....the hmg DPS on paper doesn't account for spread and dispersion....the ar still wins unless you at literally on top of the enemy
Which to note, the dispersion is very.... finicky with the HMG. Sometimes it feels like there the dispersion is out of control, can't hit crap outside of 10m. Other times I have gotten kills as far as 70m. I don't really know what it is but you can definitely feel the difference. And normally it's per game, like I've said some games I do freaking awesome and others I can't hit crap. |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 16:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Urban warfare particularly inside buildings is the one place I don't want to run into an HMG.
Inside buildings is unfortunately really the only place heavies shine right now. |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:00:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Jake Diesel wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I'm pretty sure Heavy suits were made in mind with a defense role position, that is why they are slow they stay and defend objective area's and not run out into fire fights. If you are interested in running around capture objectives try assault or scout. Oh yea, where did you get that idea? Out of your ass? Who said that specifically heavies should have to sit and wait for MAYBE a kill? Why is it that every suit has an option to play for both offensive and defensive but the heavy is stuck to one role? Who ever said sending in something that deals tons of damage and takes tons of damage into battle first so that the lesser health teammates can pick of the skimmings was a bad idea? NO one, because it's not. There's an actual comment from one of the devs that describes the HMG as merely a support weapon and not meant for assaulting or used as a primary frontal engagement. That's why the damage is weak. Do you have any idea where this is? It does seem that an offhand comment was made and somehow the community thinks this to be true but I am not sure that it was set in stone that is the role they are going for the heavy. Seems pretty contradictory to their original heavy role.
Agreed. The heavy in chromosome was something to be feared. I remember when people would wait for the entire squad before they tried to push a heavy and the heavy could normally manage 2 kills before going down, hell 4 if you were in good cover. I can't believe people think it's totally fine for a single suit to be able to take on a heavy, unless it's in the open. How can we possibly brag about going toe-to-toe with vehicles when we can hardly manage our own against a militia shotgun? |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:55:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:The thing i found strange about the heavy is why does the HMG gain accuracy when you fire it? shoulnt it lose accuracy from a already tight ridicule over extanted periods of firing time? This is the only game that iv seen that does this:/
No, think of it like this. When you run a chainsaw. as youre holding it in the air and you give it gas it tries to push itself downward. This is due to the centrifugal(sp?) force of the motor spinning the chain at high rpm. as the motor nears its peak the force is evened out and you have better control. The same applies with a rotating barrel. think about how heavy six tubes of steel that have to be strong enough to handle the force of hundreds of huge ass bullets being fired in seconds. even with a counter weight there is still going to be a rotational force applied when the barrel first starts spinning. |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:57:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:What roles are heavys with HMG's supposed to do? camp 1 objective whole match and get assist points.
you forgot about dying. |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.11 23:04:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Assault Forge Gun
-XOXO
even with the nerfs, it is still an awesome weapon. I think another possible we have though isn't just our limitations in suits but weapons as well. we are the only suit with only two options for weapons and I wouldn't be surprised if the new weapons still aren't for heavies |
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