I've seen how people use their scout suits, and it is just downright suicidal. It is a speed / stealth suit. Stop running with the mass of blueberries into the mass of redberries expecting to do barrel rolls through gunfire and see just how well the aim assist helps your enemies when they never even know you're there, sitting behind them with a shotgun, whispering sweet nothings into their ear as you gently kiss the back of their neck...

TL;DR - You're doing it wrong. My Militia fit and garbage skills are, in a bad game, getting me 1.0 K/D.

looks good but I think flanking with an AR will net you greater success esp. on those maps with less chokes in buildings.

I've tried running with an AR, but I find myself more often than not breathing down the guys back. I'd rather do one and done than make all that noise spraying.

you could make 2 fits. some maps are really tough with the shotgun only imho. the new structures are obviously great with the shooty, but not all matches have them.

looks fine I only have three problems with that combo.

1. hit detection of the Shot gun is still a bit strange
2. you are not as stealthy as you may think the advanced scanner will find you unless you put more than three million SP in profile dampening.
3. speed won't help you much on the escaping side thanks to improved hit detection and AA

But I am happy that this works for you

... are not nearly as bad as people are making them out to be.

Hi, I'm TheAmazing FlyingPig. You've probably flamed me in another thread for voicing an unpopular opinion. Well I'm here to tell you that this one is going to be no different! Scout suits, when played to their strengths (as everything should be), are actually a VERY fun suit to run and comes with built-in invisibility. In every round I have played, I have yet to go below a 1.0 K/D ratio.

Anyways, here's my fit:

'Dragonfly' Scout [nSv]

Militia Shotgun BPO
Militia Armor Repairer BPO
Militia Cardiac Regulator BPO
Militia Locus Grenade BPO
Militia Shield Extender BPO (soon to be swapped)
Active Scanner

Being a tanker, my core suit skills are garbage, so I left the sidearm slot open. This fit costs me 600 ISK to run, and has wrecked the backs of many heads. The Active Scanner lets me peek around corners without revealing my frail body to gunfire, allowing me to pick and choose my engagements. Two redberries facing me? Nope. Two redberries shooting at someone else? +50 +50.


I've seen how people use their scout suits, and it is just downright suicidal. It is a speed / stealth suit. Stop running with the mass of blueberries into the mass of redberries expecting to do barrel rolls through gunfire and see just how well the aim assist helps your enemies when they never even know you're there, sitting behind them with a shotgun, whispering sweet nothings into their ear as you gently kiss the back of their neck...

TL;DR - You're doing it wrong. My Militia fit and garbage skills are, in a bad game, getting me 1.0 K/D.

... are not nearly as bad as people are making them out to be.

Hi, I'm TheAmazing FlyingPig. You've probably flamed me in another thread for voicing an unpopular opinion. Well I'm here to tell you that this one is going to be no different! Scout suits, when played to their strengths (as everything should be), are actually a VERY fun suit to run and comes with built-in invisibility. In every round I have played, I have yet to go below a 1.0 K/D ratio.

Anyways, here's my fit:

'Dragonfly' Scout [nSv]

Militia Shotgun BPO
Militia Armor Repairer BPO
Militia Cardiac Regulator BPO
Militia Locus Grenade BPO
Militia Shield Extender BPO (soon to be swapped)
Active Scanner

Being a tanker, my core suit skills are garbage, so I left the sidearm slot open. This fit costs me 600 ISK to run, and has wrecked the backs of many heads. The Active Scanner lets me peek around corners without revealing my frail body to gunfire, allowing me to pick and choose my engagements. Two redberries facing me? Nope. Two redberries shooting at someone else? +50 +50.


I've seen how people use their scout suits, and it is just downright suicidal. It is a speed / stealth suit. Stop running with the mass of blueberries into the mass of redberries expecting to do barrel rolls through gunfire and see just how well the aim assist helps your enemies when they never even know you're there, sitting behind them with a shotgun, whispering sweet nothings into their ear as you gently kiss the back of their neck...

TL;DR - You're doing it wrong. My Militia fit and garbage skills are, in a bad game, getting me 1.0 K/D.

One of the big problems with Scouts is that they don't have any specific role on the battlefield. Assaults and logis can do the same if not even better. The speed bonus is nearly useless. Try out an militia assault and you will have do better due to more ehp. Additionally pub games do not count as most of them are unorganized. In PC you will habe a lot more trouble to survive

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TL;DR - You're doing it wrong. My Militia fit and garbage skills are, in a bad game, getting me 1.0 K/D.

.... do barrel rolls through gunfire ...

I get crazy scores with my scout suit too. However that doesn't mean it's a good suit. It's probably the 2nd worst suit in the game. After the commando.

What I was doing was being an aggressive less hp more speed assault. That is how I play the scout. Like an assault with the shotgun.

Some may say that's stupid.. That that's what the assault is for. But.. That's what I imagined the scout suit to be made for.

Because scouting and dampening and sneaky stuff just doesn't work in competitive play. It doesn't.

That is why the scout suit sucks. It has no defining role that it does overwhelmingly better at than the other suits. It's not overwhelmingly better at scanning or dampening or even for speed... :(

... are not nearly as bad as people are making them out to be.

Hi, I'm TheAmazing FlyingPig. You've probably flamed me in another thread for voicing an unpopular opinion. Well I'm here to tell you that this one is going to be no different! Scout suits, when played to their strengths (as everything should be), are actually a VERY fun suit to run and comes with built-in invisibility. In every round I have played, I have yet to go below a 1.0 K/D ratio.

Anyways, here's my fit:

'Dragonfly' Scout [nSv]

Militia Shotgun BPO
Militia Armor Repairer BPO
Militia Cardiac Regulator BPO
Militia Locus Grenade BPO
Militia Shield Extender BPO (soon to be swapped)
Active Scanner

Being a tanker, my core suit skills are garbage, so I left the sidearm slot open. This fit costs me 600 ISK to run, and has wrecked the backs of many heads. The Active Scanner lets me peek around corners without revealing my frail body to gunfire, allowing me to pick and choose my engagements. Two redberries facing me? Nope. Two redberries shooting at someone else? +50 +50.


I've seen how people use their scout suits, and it is just downright suicidal. It is a speed / stealth suit. Stop running with the mass of blueberries into the mass of redberries expecting to do barrel rolls through gunfire and see just how well the aim assist helps your enemies when they never even know you're there, sitting behind them with a shotgun, whispering sweet nothings into their ear as you gently kiss the back of their neck...

TL;DR - You're doing it wrong. My Militia fit and garbage skills are, in a bad game, getting me 1.0 K/D.

Stuff

Did I mention my core skills are, at most, to level 2, shotguns 1, nothing in biotics, and all of my SP is in tanks?

Did I mention my core skills are, at most, to level 2, shotguns 1, nothing in biotics, and all of my SP is in tanks?

Points to Ponder:

1) Run a militia Shotgun Scout fit at zero SP investment.
2) Invest 15-20M SP in Scoutly skills.
3) Retry your militia Shotgun Scout.
4) Measure performance difference.
5) Repeat process, but now using EZ mode (medium-frame + AR).

(or)

1) Run a proto Scout fit in a dozen or so competitive PC matches (log performance).
2) Repeat process, but now using proto EZ mode (medium-frame + Duvolle AR).