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IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:55:00 -
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With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:58:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Another bad heavy wanting CCP to fix there lack of skills. |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition
62
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:02:00 -
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Heavies also need a turret on it's shoulder that isn't called "The ex wife" give it ammo so it isn't over powered, and also jet pack. It needs one equipment slot too! so that the missile get ammo. |
IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:04:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Another bad heavy wanting CCP to fix there lack of skills.
let me guess how you play as a heavy in a chardybis driving around? |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
357
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:06:00 -
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Really, theres enough threads about this. |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:07:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Another bad heavy wanting CCP to fix there lack of skills. let me guess how you play as a heavy in a chardybis driving around? Oh - man. You caught me. I did adapt. Shame on me. |
IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:11:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Another bad heavy wanting CCP to fix there lack of skills. let me guess how you play as a heavy in a chardybis driving around? Oh - man. You caught me. I did adapt. Shame on me.
why should the heavy have to adapt an be in a lav all game? imagine the outcy if AR players had to adapt this way to be relevant on big maps. or refined to one location on the map for the entire game seems like a waist of SP to go in to heavies is all im saying. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4539
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:11:00 -
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You want to make me OP there is something in my eye |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
2333
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:15:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:You want to make me OP there is something in my eye bacon? |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:19:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Another bad heavy wanting CCP to fix there lack of skills. let me guess how you play as a heavy in a chardybis driving around? Oh - man. You caught me. I did adapt. Shame on me. why should the heavy have to adapt an be in a lav all game? imagine the outcy if AR players had to adapt this way to be relevant on big maps. or refined to one location on the map for the entire game seems like a waist of SP to go in to heavies is all im saying. So - if I try to make up for my suits weaknesses there's a problem? And you think I'm in the LAV all game? This is why I think everyone is bad at this game. Everyone wants to play like it's CoD. |
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4539
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:20:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:You want to make me OP there is something in my eye bacon?
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IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:24:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:why should the heavy have to adapt an be in a lav all game? imagine the outcy if AR players had to adapt this way to be relevant on big maps. or refined to one location on the map for the entire game seems like a waist of SP to go in to heavies is all im saying So - if I try to make up for my suits weaknesses there's a problem? And you think I'm in the LAV all game? This is why I think everyone is bad at this game. Everyone wants to play like it's CoD.
Im glad you see the need to make up for your suits weakness, so you agree. I understand adapting to the limitations. I'm not in agreement with the new limitations that were compounded by the new AA mechanic. The fact is as you agree the suits weekness is its lack of mobility on large maps and horrible scan radius in close quarters effectively killing its use in all its supposedly "best ways to play applications" the suit needs to be eliminated if it has no purpose. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
653
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:34:00 -
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Personely I been playing a standard-advance heavy fitting and my HMG is god in CQC, shotgun scouts only ever kill me if they sneak up behind me, any other time their as easy to kill as any other, I been killing proto assaults fairly easily too... |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
722
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:37:00 -
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I seriously do not get what all of you Fat Babies (New Heavies) are crying so hard about.
I have been doing awesome as a Heavy since 1.4 and the fixes it brought to the HMG.
The only problem I face now as a Heavy is M1 Locus Grenade Spam.
The last match I played today, I went 22/10 in a Standard Basic Frame Heavy with an MH-82 and a standard SMG I also have a Comp. Damage Mod, Comp. Armor Plate, Enhanced Repairer, and Flux Grenades on the Suit. About 8 of my deaths were a result of No Skill Scrubs 'Nade Spamming me.
Maybe you guys are doing something wrong. |
Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
114
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:44:00 -
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So... 3.5 k/d with my basic Heavy suit is bad? Okay then... buff the Heavies! I need a 5.0k/d! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8241
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:45:00 -
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Mowed 6 guys down with a heavy and blew up 4 tanks today... |
howard sanchez
Sanchez Cartage llc
736
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:46:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Another bad heavy wanting CCP to fix there lack of skills. let me guess how you play as a heavy in a chardybis driving around? Post with your Main, Coward! |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
540
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:49:00 -
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Crouch, you'll thank me later.
I dont know what heavies are complaining about, my MLT heavy suit with STD HMG does pretty well against protos with ARs. I dont engage them at the maximum range because I'm not stupid enough to fight outside of my effective range. If the map is open and well spaced I dont even bother to use a heavy with an HMG unless we're holding down a position with plenty of CQC cover. I have never went below a 2.0 kdr as a heavy despite being in situations where they overrun me with numbers.
IF YOU WANT RANGE THEN EQUIP AN AR YOU DONKEY. You're like those mercedes drivers who have so much pride in their car they cant even put a car freshener in there because ITS FOR THE POOR AND WEAK.
I swear most heavies are displaying symptoms of simply being a meathead. Use your brain if you have any. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
910
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:50:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:I seriously do not get what all of you Fat Babies (New Heavies) are crying so hard about.
I have been doing awesome as a Heavy since 1.4 and the fixes it brought to the HMG.
The only problem I face now as a Heavy is M1 Locus Grenade Spam.
The last match I played today, I went 22/10 in a Standard Basic Frame Heavy with an MH-82 and a standard SMG I also have a Comp. Damage Mod, Comp. Armor Plate, Enhanced Repairer, and Flux Grenades on the Suit. About 8 of my deaths were a result of No Skill Scrubs 'Nade Spamming me.
Maybe you guys are doing something wrong.
If you aren't new, post with your main so we know who is terrible Playing as a Heavy.
There are certainly exceptions but the rule for me is that as a Heavy I usually barely break even. And that is in Pub matches, in a PC match nobody would ever bring a heavy because they just are too easy to kill and dont really do much. |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
358
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:54:00 -
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Bad player #1,837,837,739xxxxxxxx complaining about being bad at the game. Heavies 1.4 cqc is a pain for me. Nades spam is the only effective way to deal with them. Adapt to the role or find a new one. Heavies are supposed to be slow and vulnerable on huge maps lolol. If youre not a scout or ds pilot, why are you complaining? |
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
272
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:58:00 -
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Heavies just need a small boost in the form of making the sentinel skills accually useful and a small increase to hmg range (5-10m) and/or reduction to spread(10%?). |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1563
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:03:00 -
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the HMG just needs to do 100 per round and double the RoF and have no drop off over ever and no heat up and triple the size of the mag and a .01 reload time and then just maybe it will be barely on PAR with the SMG. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
272
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:10:00 -
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ladwar wrote:the HMG just needs to do 100 per round and double the RoF and have no drop off over ever and no heat up and triple the size of the mag and a .01 reload time and then just maybe it will be barely on PAR with the SMG. No, its accually almost perfect, just a small buff to range or spread would fix it |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
203
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:14:00 -
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The steelmine is the FOTM for the heavy right now, use it now before it gets nerfed! |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
272
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:23:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:The steelmine is the FOTM for the heavy right now, use it now before it gets nerfed! Isnt that the same as the proto HMG? |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3134
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:23:00 -
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I suppose you chose the heavy suit because you felt you had to be invincible, and that it somehow entitled you to god mode.
It doesn't. Deal with it. |
IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I suppose you chose the heavy suit because you felt you had to be invincible, and that it somehow entitled you to god mode.
It doesn't. Deal with it.
you probably sucked with the AR before it became an easy button and now you still suck? And now that its got easymode assist you don't want it taken away cause now you can kill heavies at ease |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
725
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:28:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Crouch, you'll thank me later.
I dont know what heavies are complaining about, my MLT heavy suit with STD HMG does pretty well against protos with ARs. I dont engage them at the maximum range because I'm not stupid enough to fight outside of my effective range. If the map is open and well spaced I dont even bother to use a heavy with an HMG unless we're holding down a position with plenty of CQC cover. I have never went below a 2.0 kdr as a heavy despite being in situations where they overrun me with numbers.
IF YOU WANT RANGE THEN EQUIP AN AR YOU DONKEY. You're like those mercedes drivers who have so much pride in their car they cant even put a car freshener in there because ITS FOR THE POOR AND WEAK.
I will say the MLT Heavy suit is complete garbage. How anybody can use that thing effectively is beyond me. It's just two weak with no slots to buffer it's crappy HP and no CPU/PG to fit anything decent (not that there's room).
Quote:I swear most heavies are displaying symptoms of simply being a meathead. Use your brain if you have any. Maybe they are Role Playing. You know in most RPG games the big brawn is quite brutish.
Then again, maybe the chose the Heavy, because this just comes natural to them. |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
244
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:28:00 -
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Although the HMG is more a placeholder weapon by description it is still a Minmatar weapon. Its supposed to be a fairly short ranged weapon. Thinking about it the Min Heavy suit with its extra speed would offset it quite nicely. Not to mention the potential race bonuses that could help it become a more viable weapon in the future.
Hence my alt: Caca Forte - HMG skills but no Amarr heavy frame |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
725
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:29:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I suppose you chose the heavy suit because you felt you had to be invincible, and that it somehow entitled you to god mode.
It doesn't. Deal with it. you probably sucked with the AR before it became an easy button and now you still suck? And now that its got easymode assist you don't want it taken away cause now you can kill heavies at ease Actually Arkena was calling for an adjustment to the aim assist. He felt it was too strong.
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