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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:30:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit.
No no no. I play as a heavy. I dont want any buff or anything. Range is fine! stop QQ i dont want my suit to be buffed then nerfed! leave it alone |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
40
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:36:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:Long Evity wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Another bad heavy wanting CCP to fix there lack of skills. let me guess how you play as a heavy in a chardybis driving around? Oh - man. You caught me. I did adapt. Shame on me. why should the heavy have to adapt an be in a lav all game? imagine the outcy if AR players had to adapt this way to be relevant on big maps. or refined to one location on the map for the entire game seems like a waist of SP to go in to heavies is all im saying.
quit your bitching skill the **** up and stop being a bad heavy, i just played and DOMINATED an entire skirmish map on regular servers with an entire heavy team save for the ocasional scouts and logis |
Rin Tsubaki
Chaotic Silence
31
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:40:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. No no no. I play as a heavy. I dont want any buff or anything. Range is fine! stop QQ i dont want my suit to be buffed then nerfed! leave it alone i agree the heavy suits should be left alone they are fine they work i still die but not as easly they need no buffs and no nurffs they are fine enough talking about them anyone QQing is just looking for something to ***** about as a heavy i know they are fine all im saying |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
273
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:43:00 -
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Rin Tsubaki wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. No no no. I play as a heavy. I dont want any buff or anything. Range is fine! stop QQ i dont want my suit to be buffed then nerfed! leave it alone i agree the heavy suits should be left alone they are fine they work i still die but not as easly they need no buffs and no nurffs they are fine enough talking about them anyone QQing is just looking for something to ***** about as a heavy i know they are fine all im saying But the sentinel skills are useless |
Rin Tsubaki
Chaotic Silence
31
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:44:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Rin Tsubaki wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. No no no. I play as a heavy. I dont want any buff or anything. Range is fine! stop QQ i dont want my suit to be buffed then nerfed! leave it alone i agree the heavy suits should be left alone they are fine they work i still die but not as easly they need no buffs and no nurffs they are fine enough talking about them anyone QQing is just looking for something to ***** about as a heavy i know they are fine all im saying But the sentinel skills are useless im just worried about heavies in general the skills will be fixed eventualy
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N'Rante
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:46:00 -
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right now the HMG and Sentinel as well as the Amarr Heavy Frame, They dont need a boost, Sure I would like that have my Heavy VK1 with 3 high and 2 low and increased movement speed back but I highly doubt that is going to happen
The heavy suit that does needa boost is the amarr commando suit, it need justa bit more PG and CPU youcan run proto weapons in both slots but the price for doign so is you cant run with complex recharger, extender and plates in your 2 highs and 1 low and also makes it extremely tight to run any sort of decent equpment past basic. So If I want complex hives or uplinks with complex mod I am forced to use 2 sidearms
The thing is if you are getting destroyed by ARs wwhen you are using your HMG, use an Assault Variant and most importantly STICK WITH YOUR SQUAD. HMG is ment to be used as a suppression tool to keep the enemy behind cover while your squadmates can flank and take him out. |
IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:51:00 -
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so AR is the only viable weapon and they are posting in any thread that wants to have some competitiveness brought back?
Ive seen top heavies like Lance 2 balls strong say the HMG needs work. I personally am done with being a heavy, true I was never a great heavy anyway but this build helped me make the decision its completely worthless in a competitive environment. So I Vote we just get rid of it all together.
Remove the Heavy suit And make this AR only. Oh wait their will still be a few idiots who think its in a good place so we will keep it arounf for terrible pub stompers. the truth is all of you heavies fighting to keep things as it is switch to an excile rifle and see how much better you do. sorry you guys don't see it but they AR with aim assist is by far more dominant in 90% of the time.
good luck to you fatties that stay with this crap build, cause you want to beet your head at the wall and be happy with a 3-4 kdr. the AR players all start at a low end 4 kdr most good ones averaging 6-8
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Mejt0
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
22
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:56:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit.
What a...bullsh1t!! 1. Heavies are DEFENSIVE types,they hold objectives or mova foward and destroy 2. Youre heavy! Youre not a lone wolf,youre slow and weak alone. But when youre with squad youre beast, youre tool of destruction in thier hands. 3. Problem with range? Use assault type,it have good range. I many times get killed by good players that croutch,aim and kill me in 2sec and hes in AR optimal range. Overwall they fine as they now. They hold objectives,they defense. And if they would get buff now,they will get worster nerf later. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1258
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:02:00 -
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The trick is to run with another heavy HMG player (or more) for the CQC places on maps, the combo is incredibly useful.
It's easy enough to take a lone HMG player with an AR, but trying to take out one while both are filling you full of lead, not going to me very successful. Cause even if you get one, the other is still laying into you full time with the HMG. |
bjorn morkai
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:08:00 -
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Or, you buy the HMG that is designed to fire at long range, which is what I've done, and my gameplay has improved quite a bit. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3953
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:10:00 -
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Heavy + Repair Tool Scout = you can sprint while I walk behind you keeping the reps coming. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
610
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:10:00 -
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IGot Nerfed wrote:With the new aim assist Assult Rifles are all powerful. nad the heavy suit cant even do its job as a CQC cause without being able to see anybody 10 feet on radar shotguns own CQC.
And why does the Heavy HMG combo have to be a Close qurters role only any way?
I believe this was just done because the AR players did not want any competition in any range.
TLDR The HMG need a huge range and damage Buff. It also needs some incentive the already gimped heavy suit. we should have the best scanner since we are the least mobile a guardian if our role is truly to be standing in one spot the whole game.
Honestly the HMg suit has no more appeal to play anymore if this is the intended use of this suit. Best scanner really? Better than a scout? So you wanna be a fat scout with a mini gun? I think there call skills under electronics |
Mejt0
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
22
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:24:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:The trick is to run with another heavy HMG player (or more) for the CQC places on maps, the combo is incredibly useful.
It's easy enough to take a lone HMG player with an AR, but trying to take out one while both are filling you full of lead, not going to me very successful. Cause even if you get one, the other is still laying into you full time with the HMG.
Yea as i said (pro sentiels i see have 800 armor, beast :-D) Trurly. Heavies in some way are like infiantry tank version. Once your armor gets low, change with mate, he will hold fire and logi can rep you. Change,rep,change rep.Good luck in further playing,hope you learned smth :) |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:59:00 -
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Basically what everyone is saying the role of the heavy is to never get kills and just get assists, or camp an objective. What if I want to be on the frontline? The real problem isn't the skills of the suits we have, it's the lack of options. You know this, I know this, errbody up in this beezy knows it. If we had armor/shield builds like we did in chromosome and codex, these complaints wouldn't be here because we actually have more than just one ****** choice. The commando suit is a joke. |
Mejt0
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
22
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Posted - 2013.09.11 07:43:00 -
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Commando is seriously joke. Zero slots,eq slots.... yes 2 light weapons but so low ehp make him soo weak |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:53:00 -
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what I really want, and mind you this is coming from a scout player, is an active module for heavies that makes them move at half the speed but allows them to sprint as fast and as long as a scout suit(same stam recharge as they have now tho). The down side of this would be that they could not turn very fast while sprinting and upon running into things or stopping sprinting the module would go into a cool down and the heavy could not sprint until their stam was full again.
This would basically be a blockade breacher its ment to hit hard and stick around for awhile.
tho really if you do this you would have to implement an HMG for your normal heavies that would basically be and SMG on crack(longer range, lower fire rate, higher damage, lower spread). |
TEBOW BAGGINS
The Corporate Raiders
973
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Posted - 2013.09.11 09:45:00 -
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they need a buff like the barb in diablo 3 where they can do jump attacks and call three ancient heavies to aid them |
Mejt0
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
22
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Posted - 2013.09.11 10:21:00 -
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Heavies are now good! What do you want from it? That it will solo kill 5ppl just standing and shooting? I also can talk in this way.... Aaa.. buff assaults,give them 2x dmg aaa.... Not funny right? |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
320
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Posted - 2013.09.11 11:00:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Heavies are now good! What do you want from it? That it will solo kill 5ppl just standing and shooting? I also can talk in this way.... Aaa.. buff assaults,give them 2x dmg aaa.... Not funny right?
But you are bad, so w/e.
Although I am enjoying my new STD HMG. It goes nicely with my Ishukone. Now I just need to skill into the ADV Basic frame... |
DAMIOS82
Unkn0wn Killers
44
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:42:00 -
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The hvy is good as it is now. Dispite the hmg overheating to fast. The one thing i would like to see is a scanner only slot. No need for an equipment slot, that's what logi's are for. But like i said, i would like to see something where i can put a scanner on/in, so that i don't constantly walk into death traps. |
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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Top Men.
413
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Posted - 2013.09.11 13:43:00 -
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The problem with the HMG is that CCP is/was too cautious(read: Cowardly) to unleash the full potential of the gun - make it powerful within it's niche role. They've attempted to gimp the gun down to the same DPS of everything else, while still putting it in it's "role" as a CQC weapon.
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IGot Nerfed
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:46:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Basically what everyone is saying the role of the heavy is to never get kills and just get assists, or camp an objective. What if I want to be on the frontline? The real problem isn't the skills of the suits we have, it's the lack of options. You know this, I know this, errbody up in this beezy knows it. If we had armor/shield builds like we did in chromosome and codex, these complaints wouldn't be here because we actually have more than just one ****** choice. The commando suit is a joke.
exactly who has determined this to be the heavy role? The original role says we are supposed to be able to go toe to toe with vehicles and survive. its hard to go against a smg and survive. the suit is also supposed to be strong against small arms fire. what ever happened to that? |
Ku Shala
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
456
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:54:00 -
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I see there are enough trolls here already .... Peace! |
Buckar00 Banzai
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:23:00 -
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I don't know if it's the aim assist or something they did with stats on something but my armor does seem like paper this build. So I improvise.
If anyone has read any of the Dust chronicles, during the attack on Caldari, there is mention of a heavy taking out dropships and lavs with a few bursts. So evidently someone got something wrong somewhere. Either in game or in the canon of EVE/Dust.
Just saying. |
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