because of the low requirement of basic plates i dont think this is possable.

every single build will resort to fitting as many basic plates as possable for sheer HP buffer.

if you build it, the players will abuse it.


different suit builds like the old type A type B setup would be a more balanced aproch to this, but this was already covered in the placeholder model discussion and the devs decided they diddnt want to do it.


as much as i believe a solution is needed, it seems like were not getting one.

I think there should be a type of heavy suit that specializes in massive HP pool, but absolutely no passive HP Regen worls

You're right, 5H/5L would be overpowered for all suits, but not prototype.

Edited OP.

im not overly familiar with heavys, since i hate amarr but they get more and more OP with every low slot you give them.

even shield heavys will stuff their low slots to the brim with basic plates.

unfortunatly i dont see a way to implement this in a way that wont be just a generalised HP buff to all heavys across the board.

complex extenders are hard to fit so they work in this scheme, more highs doesnt mean more extenders... it just wouldnt fit.

but i dont know a heavy who wouldnt find a way to squeese 10cpu and 1 pg to fit another basic plate on the thing untill all heavys have 5 of the damn things and 2 complex extenders

lets not forget about CPU and PG mods in those extra lows as well.

put 1 cpu and 1 PG mod in two of those lows and suddenly heavys have CRAPTONS of extra CPU and PG to go around resulting in

5x complex extender
1cpu
1pg
3 of the biggest plates you can fit

i like the idea though, im hoping you can think of a way to modify the original scheme to compensate.

Why not just release placeholders of the new heavy suits, using the current heavy model. Wasn't there a topic on this in the past?

You could temporarily adjust the slots on the Amarr Heavies to

2/2 MLT
2/2 Standard
3/3 Advanced
5/5 Prototype

Keep all CPU/PG Values as they are.

Any changes need to pass a sniff test. Basically can the suit be abused as the next AR Slayer fit. Starting at the Advanced there might be a problem in game balance.

In a game where stacking Complex Damage Mods is king the Sentinel has been left cold. It doesn't help that the Basic Heavy Frame is better than the specializations. I feel bad for the Devs, they seem to be having a devil of a time balancing Light and Heavy frames.

I have been a heavy since the beginning. I have 16 million skill points and every day the heavy is becoming more useless day by day. I love this class but the truth of the matter is in this game is all these people cry about heavies and then were nerfed becausethe majority apparently rules here not skill or commen since. We are suppose to be mobile tanks with a real hmg range and damage. But to many lil spoiled punks in dust and in CCP agree that AR'S should dominate with outrageous damage and range because the majority cried thier lil hearts out about a mini gun tearing there ass up. Because they couldn't play with tactics and just thought they could run in on a heavy mini gun. The heavy either needs to have are range match that of the AR or just ******* get rid of the class all together and refund my sp. I'm tired of being a mobile hit box for everyone . Before anyone hear cries which I know there going to do anyway. IT'S A DAMN MINI GUN . MINI GUNS ARE MID TO LONG RANGE WEAPONS PERIOD. NOT NO DAMN CQC weapon.

You're crazy.

Like a seige unit? Can batten down a killzone by himself, but only so long as he has support, wait isnt that what the sentinel supposed to do?

This would only be capable on the prototype suit. Even then, I don't think you would be able to fit the 5 complex extenders and still have enough CPU/PG to fit your weapons. If so, that is close to all you could fit even with the CPU/PG upgrades.

The reason is because the CPU is somewhat lacking on the Amarr Heavy Frames. They just weren't designed for CPU intensive fittings. The were designed for PG intensive fittings. You would probably be forced to use the CPU upgrades in order to "convert" it into a CPU intensive suit.

Working:

Amarr Heavy Proto with 1 comp. CPU/PG Upgrade: 340CPU 68PG

5 Comp Extenders 270CPU 55PG

that leaves 70CPU 13PG

So you would have to use another set of comp. CPU/PG Upgrades to fit your weapons/grenades and maybe a regulator.

This is exactly the type of thing I had in mind!

there is a worry that 5x damage mods may be a little bit much but seeing as the stacking penalties would remove 99% of the benifits and it would have to use most if not all of the lows for other stuff i think that ones good.

plug in 4x extenders and 5x basic plates with an ADV HMG.... i think it may just fit but im not sure


i dont think theres a way to be sure it cant be abused... someone will always find a way on something like this

hell thats one of the reasons the cal-logi was so damn OP to begin with just because of the massive health buffer it could achieve over other suits. on a heavy its not too much of a problem though as long as its reasonable.


im liking this more and more.

True and by no means am I agreeing with them, but apart from being slower what are the drawbacks??

Haha so while I agree the heavy needs something and the mini gun should have more range then the ar at the price of accuracy, ratial suits badly needed. I can not agree to 5/5 slots. I'm a scout and a proto has 5 slots TOTAL.

Ratial suits asap (for light suits too)
Big buff to hmg range - accuracy
Introduce small arms fire resistance to base armor (not armor plates)
New heavy only weapons

That would be a good start imho

Oh I read what your saying. 5/5 is too much. Add a couple to it sure but not max. And as a scout that would make you more deadly to us and believe or not even though everyone is saying scouts are OP it's not true. What is does mean is, as you can see in my response, I recognize the serious downfalls of heavies. Medium ar rule the day in 1.4.