DUST Search - 1.0 Duvolle TAR vs 1.2 Core Flaylock vs Chrome Viziam

Your Absolut End wrote:

Depends on the map size big time.

The flaylock and lr just appeared OP because of the given soroundings.

The lr itself was never op. But in addition with the limited map sizes in chromo's ambush game mode most of the enemys spawned in optimal range, or there where perfect sniping spots (manus peak comes to mind) from which you could easily dominate a match. Besides that the lr was only effective when paired with maxed out smg, for its ineffectiveness in other ranges then optimal. Used it back then primary and know what I'm talking about.

The flaylock was op because of early uprising's combat range. Most fights where settled in close to mid range, the flaylock clearly could dominate in this distance but had a lack on mid to long range.but as stated before battlefield was settled in flaylocks dominating range combined with the ridicoulus rof and splash damage the weapon got op.

The tac ar was simply to good overall. It was tje weapon to go for, cos it dominated the battlefield all the way from cqc to long range.

The tac ar would dominate in most situations, unless the given surroundings give a small advantage to lr or fl.

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CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 663	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:33:00 - [1] - Quote Who would win?
The Attorney General ZionTCD 881	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:35:00 - [2] - Quote Depends on how many level of sharpshooter you want to give the Viziam. I had mine up to SS prof 8 I think, and boy oh boy could that thing reach out and touch people.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1631	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:38:00 - [3] - Quote Chrome LR. That would melt anything (Even some low tanked shield LAVs) in seconds.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 253	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:39:00 - [4] - Quote Depends, does the Vizam have SS? also would they just start on different sides of the map and work their way towards each other? Can any of the operators hit the broadside of a barn? All of these lead to the Vizam hands down if he/she can stay at range. Just charge it up and "slice thine enemies in half."
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1129	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:40:00 - [5] - Quote none of the above closed beta dropship with two proto missile turrets good game was easy
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 155	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:40:00 - [6] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Who would win? TAR because now Aim Assists make it hit everytime without scoping in..
Rei Shepard Spectre II 519	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:47:00 - [7] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Who would win? Viziam has full sharpshooter skill Flaylock has the super evil splash damage TAR has the modded full auto controller with recoil reduction Hit detection is chrome status. No aim assist. Chrome Viziam, hands down i had a spec that time for it with 3 damage mods, just slightly grazing a Protosuit made it melt and you could pre-heat it on a rock, guy thinks haha MISSED ME...and once it was heated you put it on the guy, he dropped instantly and so did the 3 others behind him lol that gun was so broken it wasnt funny.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 125	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:48:00 - [8] - Quote Core flaylock
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 125	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:49:00 - [9] - Quote Minor Treat wrote: Core flaylock actually the laser rifle in chrome
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 663	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:52:00 - [10] - Quote I vote viziam. It made scattered ion cannons look gentle, by comparison.

P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 389	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:52:00 - [11] - Quote Minor Treat wrote: Minor Treat wrote: Core flaylock actually the laser rifle in chrome Yeah, flay was a close second, but I raged over the chromalaser. Like bad. No one wanted to play with me cus I just screamed all day lol
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3408	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:53:00 - [12] - Quote Chrome viziam, it would just outrange everything and with that build up damage... That said in a CQ engagement the viziam would get stomped on by the TAR or flaylock.
PEW JACKSON Intara Direct Action Caldari State 19	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:02:00 - [13] - Quote Viziam. If all three weaps were up against a proto heavy FG'er inside their respective optimals, viziam takes the prize. Heavy would be melted .3 secs before his AFG shot came out.
Your Absolut End Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 172	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:04:00 - [14] - Quote Depends on the map size big time. The flaylock and lr just appeared OP because of the given soroundings. The lr itself was never op. But in addition with the limited map sizes in chromo's ambush game mode most of the enemys spawned in optimal range, or there where perfect sniping spots (manus peak comes to mind) from which you could easily dominate a match. Besides that the lr was only effective when paired with maxed out smg, for its ineffectiveness in other ranges then optimal. Used it back then primary and know what I'm talking about. The flaylock was op because of early uprising's combat range. Most fights where settled in close to mid range, the flaylock clearly could dominate in this distance but had a lack on mid to long range.but as stated before battlefield was settled in flaylocks dominating range combined with the ridicoulus rof and splash damage the weapon got op. The tac ar was simply to good overall. It was tje weapon to go for, cos it dominated the battlefield all the way from cqc to long range. The tac ar would dominate in most situations, unless the given surroundings give a small advantage to lr or fl.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1002	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:07:00 - [15] - Quote WRONG. E3 Proto medium with Remote explosives beats all. Replication Swarm Launcher gets second place.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 521	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:10:00 - [16] - Quote gbghg wrote: Chrome viziam, it would just outrange everything and with that build up damage... That said in a CQ engagement the viziam would get stomped on by the TAR or flaylock. in cqc combat i call the Chroziam a flashlight, always was kinda cute how those guys tried to beam you to death at 5 feet, at its optimale distance i called it the Face-Shaver because on those old maps you had allot of ridges where people would pull a peek-a-boo and you just had to go from left to right to give em all a very tight baby shave to the face ....good times...unless someone elses was using it :p
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 149	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:13:00 - [17] - Quote Chrome laser. That thing made people lose their ******* mind in fear.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 943	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:14:00 - [18] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Who would win? Viziam has full sharpshooter skill Flaylock has the super evil splash damage TAR has the modded full auto controller with recoil reduction Hit detection is chrome status. No aim assist. Depdnds on the RANGE CQ Flaylock Mid / Mi-long range , The Duvolle TAc Long range The Viziam...
Viktor Zokas High-Damage 348	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:15:00 - [19] - Quote PEW JACKSON wrote: Viziam. If all three weaps were up against a proto heavy FG'er inside their respective optimals, viziam takes the prize. Heavy would be melted .3 secs before his AFG shot came out. You can still do this today if you manage a perfect range. The tears are delicious.
echo47 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:24:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Who would win? TAR because now Aim Assists make it hit everytime without scoping in.. Video or it does not happen.

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1449	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:24:00 - [21] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Who would win? Viziam has full sharpshooter skill Flaylock has the super evil splash damage TAR has the modded full auto controller with recoil reduction Hit detection is chrome status. No aim assist. I'm gonna say the TAR because it was the most versatile. But I would choose the Viziam for sheer destructive power.
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 420	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:27:00 - [22] - Quote Swarm launcher from Replication
Rynoceros Rise of Old Dudes 678	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:31:00 - [23] - Quote Viziam, although it had a shorter lifespan, rocked my *** a lot faster and more often. Flays were too much of a CQC thing and DTARs required more effort and SP. (They all got hit too hard by nerfs.)
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 275	Posted - 2013.09.09 22:37:00 - [24] - Quote 1. Chrome Viziam hands down at range(you cut heavys in half ) 2.1.0 Duvolle TAR because of versistiality at close and long range 3. 1.2 Core Flaylock (better than duvoile at cqc tho)
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 131	Posted - 2013.09.10 04:29:00 - [25] - Quote Chrome Viziam. I know..... ....i "abused" it... ...a lot.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1462	Posted - 2013.09.10 04:32:00 - [26] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Who would win? Viziam has full sharpshooter skill Flaylock has the super evil splash damage TAR has the modded full auto controller with recoil reduction Hit detection is chrome status. No aim assist. Chrome Viziam, hands down i had a spec that time for it with 3 damage mods, just slightly grazing a Protosuit made it melt and you could pre-heat it on a rock, guy thinks haha MISSED ME...and once it was heated you put it on the guy, he dropped instantly and so did the 3 others behind him lol that gun was so broken it wasnt funny. I actually thought it was rather balanced. Yea, it could insta-frag after a heatup session, but you DID have to heat it up and get to extreme range. Typically if you saw the laser heating up that was a pretty good sign it was time to duck for cover. And lets be honest, it was worthless up close. That gun had a major drawback.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 231	Posted - 2013.09.10 04:34:00 - [27] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Depends on the map size big time. The flaylock and lr just appeared OP because of the given soroundings. The lr itself was never op. But in addition with the limited map sizes in chromo's ambush game mode most of the enemys spawned in optimal range, or there where perfect sniping spots (manus peak comes to mind) from which you could easily dominate a match. Besides that the lr was only effective when paired with maxed out smg, for its ineffectiveness in other ranges then optimal. Used it back then primary and know what I'm talking about. The flaylock was op because of early uprising's combat range. Most fights where settled in close to mid range, the flaylock clearly could dominate in this distance but had a lack on mid to long range.but as stated before battlefield was settled in flaylocks dominating range combined with the ridicoulus rof and splash damage the weapon got op. The tac ar was simply to good overall. It was tje weapon to go for, cos it dominated the battlefield all the way from cqc to long range. The tac ar would dominate in most situations, unless the given surroundings give a small advantage to lr or fl. All I needed was an ELM and 2 complex damage mods on a militia logi... and that was my expensive suit.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 873	Posted - 2013.09.10 04:35:00 - [28] - Quote TAR. NOTHING can beat 875 DPS. That can melt my heavy fit in just over one second. Melts my Standard CalSalt in a half Lights die in a fourth. See a Flaylock or Viziam top that. EVER.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 963	Posted - 2013.09.10 04:44:00 - [29] - Quote Viktor Zokas wrote: PEW JACKSON wrote: Viziam. If all three weaps were up against a proto heavy FG'er inside their respective optimals, viziam takes the prize. Heavy would be melted .3 secs before his AFG shot came out. You can still do this today if you manage a perfect range. The tears are delicious. Truth. 120% damage with three complex and Amarr assault suit. By the time they realized they water is boiling they are already cooked. It is pure evil and if I was a good shot you would hate me. At optimal with about half heat it is a monster.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 963	Posted - 2013.09.10 04:48:00 - [30] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Who would win? Viziam has full sharpshooter skill Flaylock has the super evil splash damage TAR has the modded full auto controller with recoil reduction Hit detection is chrome status. No aim assist. Chrome Viziam, hands down i had a spec that time for it with 3 damage mods, just slightly grazing a Protosuit made it melt and you could pre-heat it on a rock, guy thinks haha MISSED ME...and once it was heated you put it on the guy, he dropped instantly and so did the 3 others behind him lol that gun was so broken it wasnt funny. I actually thought it was rather balanced. Yea, it could insta-frag after a heatup session, but you DID have to heat it up and get to extreme range. Typically if you saw the laser heating up that was a pretty good sign it was time to duck for cover. And lets be honest, it was worthless up close. That gun had a major drawback. I used to get so many melee kills in chrome because people would try to close the gap only to find the elbow of justice waiting on them. I got good at it and goaded people at close range for the fun of it. I would get at least one melee a match. Nom nom nom tears.

Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 153	Posted - 2013.09.10 05:09:00 - [31] - Quote Viziam on range beats everything. 3 damage mods are allmost allways a insta death to the poor guy that gets hit by it.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1538	Posted - 2013.09.10 05:14:00 - [32] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: TAR. NOTHING can beat 875 DPS. That can melt my heavy fit in just over one second. Melts my Standard CalSalt in a half Lights die in a fourth. See a Flaylock or Viziam top that. EVER. ^ this one w/ a turbo controller. and the DPS you marked is lower then what it was btw.
Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 196	Posted - 2013.09.10 05:18:00 - [33] - Quote chrome Viziam + DMG mods = anything dead! the end
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 731	Posted - 2013.09.10 05:25:00 - [34] - Quote First Prophet wrote: WRONG. E3 Proto medium with Remote explosives beats all. Replication Swarm Launcher gets second place. Actually you're wrong. An E3 scout with any weapon other than a swarm. You couldn't hit those guys, They would just strafe around your AR rounds as they crushed you with whatever weapon they were holding.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1255	Posted - 2013.09.10 05:38:00 - [35] - Quote I would say the Chromosome Viziam. That thing was just absolutely insane! Although it really depends on the situation. The Viziam could reach across pretty much any map and anything it touched once inside it's optimum range and pre-heated was insta-melted. However get up close, and it was a different story. Flaylock & TAC AR > Viziam for CQC Viziam > Flaylock & TAC AR at long range Medium range I would hand to the TAC AR vs both flaylock and viziam. However flaylock > TAC AR and Viziam in CQC
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1147	Posted - 2013.09.10 05:42:00 - [36] - Quote E3 scout with shotgun. They would go like 20-0 every game lol. Or precursor dropship missile. 1 shottin heavies for days! But on topic... Viziam would own all of em!
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 1065	Posted - 2013.09.10 06:04:00 - [37] - Quote All about Range Flay CQC TAC Mid Viz LONG LONG LONG FOREVER AND EVER UNLIMITED RANGE!!!


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