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SUNNY THE NINJA
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:16:00 -
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Just wondering |
Frost Kitty
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:21:00 -
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SUNNY THE NINJA wrote:Just wondering
Well when I use it I'm able to waste almost any Heavy in seconds so I'd say a lot. :3 |
semperfi1999
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:23:00 -
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Enough to insta kill any assault suit adv and lower...... and most logi suits adv and lower....and of course any scout suit. |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:27:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Enough to insta kill any assault suit adv and lower...... and most logi suits adv and lower....and of course any scout suit.
Not quite true. Without damage mods and without the proficiency skill, I don't think my shots are doing more than 300-400 depending on the shield/armor amount of my target. |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:29:00 -
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A lot. I use two damage mods and I'd say something around... ok, more than 200, for sure. Maybe as high as 400, or even a little more. Probably somewhere in the middle, around 300? Would be nice to know how much the damage is increased... -__- |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:36:00 -
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Is there a fully automatic/high rate of fire scrambler at? |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:39:00 -
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79 for the regular. 30 something for the assault. Don't quote me. |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:40:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Is there a fully automatic/high rate of fire scrambler at?
You mean the Assault Variant? Unlocks at Operation IV, fully automatic high rate of fire, yeah, that. But doesn't have the charged shot. I like the charged shot. |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:02:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:79 for the regular. 30 something for the assault. Don't quote me.
IMA REBEL! |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:03:00 -
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I can say for a fact it took three shots to kill my MLT Heavy Forge Gunner suit. It ate through 580 shields, 370 armor.
I was like, "Oh, a SR plinking at me from 60m and playing hide-and-go-seek. I'll just line up my shot and obliterate him next time he pops his head up."
He got his third charged shot off right after I whiffed my direct FG hit. Stupid me, standing still. GG, SR. |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:07:00 -
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I asked them this, this very question a while ago:
GM UNICORN wrote: The damaged of a uncharged shot from a charged Scrambler Rifle is the amount stated under the Damage entry under Attributes. A full charged shot from that rifle, will deal roughly three times that amount. The damage build up in a linear way while charging, so a n half charged shot will be half effective. |
Halfwings Warbringer
ThislsWhyimhot
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:08:00 -
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It's about 600 % on charge because I killed someone over 600 ehp in one shot with proto scr and 3 dmg module |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:09:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:I can say for a fact it took three shots to kill my MLT Heavy Forge Gunner suit. It ate through 580 shields, 370 armor.
I was like, "Oh, a SR plinking at me from 60m and playing hide-and-go-seek. I'll just line up my shot and obliterate him next time he pops his head up."
He got his third charged shot off right after I whiffed my direct FG hit. Stupid me, standing still. GG, SR.
That's something around 300 per shot, a little less I'm guessing (mostly shields which take more damage). Could it be a x3 modifier for fully charged?
ADV SR Base damage: ~75
+2 damage mods (+~18%), +prof lvl 3 (+15%): 99,75
Fully charged (hypothetically x3): ~299,25
Seems about right. x4 would be ridiculous with proficiency 5 and stacked dmg mods and x2 would be too little, x3 is the closest "round" multiplier.
Halfwings Warbringer wrote:It's about 600 % on charge because I killed someone over 600 ehp in one shot with proto scr and 3 dmg module
Mostly shield HP I'm assuming. I don't think it's THAT high, x6 seems too much. |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:15:00 -
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People will probably complain about it next and CCP will nerf it..... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:18:00 -
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Until we get the Gallente heavy I don't know think well find out. |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:20:00 -
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Gallente Heavy. When I see one of those I will just turn around and go the other way. No point trying to muscle through that much Armor HP with laser weaponry. |
Nick nugg3t
United Universe Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:22:00 -
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Aleksander Black wrote:Gallente Heavy. When I see one of those I will just turn around and go the other way. No point trying to muscle through that much Armor HP with laser weaponry.
smart man.
dont engage the bear
jus slowly back away and mind your business haha |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:26:00 -
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But then again, now that I don't have to worry about Murder Taxis and LAVs all the time I stopped using AV Grenades and went back to Locus. Yeah, that could work with my SMG...
*Turns back, cook grenade...* |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:29:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I asked them this, this very question a while ago: GM UNICORN wrote: The damaged of a uncharged shot from a charged Scrambler Rifle is the amount stated under the Damage entry under Attributes. A full charged shot from that rifle, will deal roughly three times that amount. The damage build up in a linear way while charging, so a n half charged shot will be half effective.
So that means a SR with no damage mods or profiecency would be doing around 237 damage per charged shot? The caldari heavy is gong to have serious issues with this weapon me thinks. |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:31:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I asked them this, this very question a while ago: GM UNICORN wrote: The damaged of a uncharged shot from a charged Scrambler Rifle is the amount stated under the Damage entry under Attributes. A full charged shot from that rifle, will deal roughly three times that amount. The damage build up in a linear way while charging, so a n half charged shot will be half effective. So that means a SR with no damage mods or profiecency would be doing around 237 damage per charged shot? The caldari heavy is gong to have serious issues with this weapon me thinks.
Yeah, if Gallente Heavy will be hard to deal with, Caldari Heavy will be way too easy. The extra HP simply won't cut it for how much easier it will be to hit it instead of a Medium Frame. |
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XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:35:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I asked them this, this very question a while ago: GM UNICORN wrote: The damaged of a uncharged shot from a charged Scrambler Rifle is the amount stated under the Damage entry under Attributes. A full charged shot from that rifle, will deal roughly three times that amount. The damage build up in a linear way while charging, so a n half charged shot will be half effective. So that means a SR with no damage mods or profiecency would be doing around 237 damage per charged shot? The caldari heavy is gong to have serious issues with this weapon me thinks.
Now factor in the headshot multiplier.... |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:44:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:gbghg wrote:
So that means a SR with no damage mods or profiecency would be doing around 237 damage per charged shot? The caldari heavy is gong to have serious issues with this weapon me thinks.
Now factor in the headshot multiplier....
If only our engineers had managed to get the 400% bonus for the rifle version...
But the SCR isn't the biggest threat to Caldari Heavies, the flux grenade is; In an instant, all their tank is gone. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:49:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:gbghg wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I asked them this, this very question a while ago: GM UNICORN wrote: The damaged of a uncharged shot from a charged Scrambler Rifle is the amount stated under the Damage entry under Attributes. A full charged shot from that rifle, will deal roughly three times that amount. The damage build up in a linear way while charging, so a n half charged shot will be half effective. So that means a SR with no damage mods or profiecency would be doing around 237 damage per charged shot? The caldari heavy is gong to have serious issues with this weapon me thinks. Now factor in the headshot multiplier....
Hmm, looks like the amarr or minmatar heavy might turn out to be the best one, the gallente one is going to be incredible slow with all that armour, or ridiculously fast if someone speed tanks it. |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:01:00 -
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Gallente Heavy will have a higher base speed than the Amarr one, so it will probably be able to stack quite a few plates and still manage to move around. I was wondering more about the flux and other banes of shield tanking and how they will relate with the Caldari Heavy. Only way I can see for the Caldari Heavy to really shine is if it has some way (suit skill?) to get a faster shield recovery than average. Like, freakishly fast. That, together with a reasonable HP pool should give it more of a "Heavy" feeling than just a wall of Shield HP that vanishes with the first flux you throw at it and don't get back up before you are dead.
Imagine that you give some 600 damage to the Cal Heavy, with an AR or with a flux, shields are gone. It goes into cover and just a moment later he is back with full shields again. Now that seems like a reasonable Shield based heavy. |
ARF 1049
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:13:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:People will probably complain about it next and CCP will nerf it.....
Scrambler rifles are such a pain in the ass because of there overheat, weak CQC and not amazing range that I doubt they will get messed with. They are pretty balanced weapons. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:17:00 -
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Aleksander Black wrote:Gallente Heavy will have a higher base speed than the Amarr one, so it will probably be able to stack quite a few plates and still manage to move around. I was wondering more about the flux and other banes of shield tanking and how they will relate with the Caldari Heavy. Only way I can see for the Caldari Heavy to really shine is if it has some way (suit skill?) to get a faster shield recovery than average. Like, freakishly fast. That, together with a reasonable HP pool should give it more of a "Heavy" feeling than just a wall of Shield HP that vanishes with the first flux you throw at it and don't get back up before you are dead.
Imagine that you give some 600 damage to the Cal Heavy, with an AR or with a flux, shields are gone. It goes into cover and just a moment later he is back with full shields again. Now that seems like a reasonable Shield based heavy.
Dem shield energisers. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
693
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Posted - 2013.09.10 02:41:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:
But the SCR isn't the biggest threat to Caldari Heavies, the flux grenade is; In an instant, all their tank is gone.
Honestly, that was true of the CalLogi before CCP changed the bonus. They were the #1 suit even though everyone knew their weakness. Range + shields > Flux...
...which is exactly why you'll see plenty of Forge Gunning Caldari Heavies. You'll see fewer HMG Fat Squids. Calling it now. |
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