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Judge Rhadamanthus
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.09.09 13:31:00 -
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My Dropship YouTube Channel is here with all the videos in handy playlists. Subscribe and get the latest videos as soon as I post them.
It keeps getting asked in the vehicle chats in game so I thought I would tackle the question in a video :
Does system hacking and hacking speed increase suit modules increase the speed at which your vehicle is recalled? Answer in the video with some handy split screen. (set it to 720p for the best picture)
DUST 514 Dropship Mini - Hacking & Recall speed |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.09.09 13:50:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:My Dropship YouTube Channel is here with all the videos in handy playlists. Subscribe and get the latest videos as soon as I post them. It keeps getting asked in the vehicle chats in game so I thought I would tackle the question in a video : Does system hacking and hacking speed increase suit modules increase the speed at which your vehicle is recalled? Answer in the video with some handy split screen. (set it to 720p for the best picture) DUST 514 Dropship Mini - Hacking & Recall speed
Ouch, a million points to check it out.
Good on ya.
Great vid, and I appreciate your sacrifice. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:04:00 -
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It was worth spending that much SP just the get the question answered with proof collected. To do it in 1.5 I guess I'll need to have a nalt with no SP in system hacking. |
Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
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Posted - 2013.09.09 16:14:00 -
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Day'u'm.
Very surprised, wondering if this is intentional now
Well done fella,
/me wonders off to remove his 2 complex codebreakers off of his tank suit |
Our Deepest Regret
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.09 16:38:00 -
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I mourn the loss of yer SP, but I thank you for their noble sacrifice. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2013.09.09 16:45:00 -
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Nicely done videos. I feel like I'm watching a professional training film. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:36:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:I mourn the loss of yer SP, but I thank you for their noble sacrifice.
You are welcome. I'll miss that 1 million sp too. but if you need something hacked I guess I'm now your man. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:11:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Nicely done videos. I feel like I'm watching a professional training film.
Thanks. Appreciate that. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:42:00 -
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To those who have wasted their sp, we salute you!!!! |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:48:00 -
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on the plus side I was gunning for condor squad and the pilot asked if someone wanted to jump out and hack a supply depot.... I said I'd do it. |
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Funkmaster Whale
Daedali Inc.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:59:00 -
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I'm failing to see how Systems Hacking is a "waste of SP". Many of you must not play PC. At level 5 it cuts 2.5 seconds from a hack. That may not sound like much, but 2.5 seconds can mean the difference between hacking the objective or getting a shotgun in the back.
Not only that, but you can now fit complex code breakers on scout fits and be the first to get juicy hack WPs in Doms and Skirms. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:15:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:I'm failing to see how Systems Hacking is a "waste of SP". Many of you must not play PC. At level 5 it cuts 2.5 seconds from a hack. That may not sound like much, but 2.5 seconds can mean the difference between hacking the objective or getting a shotgun in the back.
Not only that, but you can now fit complex code breakers on scout fits and be the first to get juicy hack WPs in Doms and Skirms.
well the thing is I fly dropships.. every match.hacking is just not on my to do list. It is wasted in that sence, just like dropship skills are for an infantry player |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:29:00 -
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i could of told you that for free.
i have my minmatar logi with hacking maxed and 4x complex codebreakers.....
it was painfully obvious that it doesnt effect recall |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:31:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:it was painfully obvious that it doesnt effect recall
I was after recorded data sets not the painfully obvious. Evidence not personal experience is what counts. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:33:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:it was painfully obvious that it doesnt effect recall I was after recorded data sets not the painfully obvious. Evidence not personal experience is what counts.
the fact that the hack wasnt 2.5 seconds is a recorded data set
hack not 2.5 seconds, then hacking doesnt effect recall speed.
its binary, yes or no |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:39:00 -
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Thats a reported data set. Not recorded. It's a topic that has come up many times. Each time we hear what people say happens in game. Many of these reports contradict one another. Reported data is not reliable. This does not mean it is wrong, only that it cannot be verified.
Also binary is not yes or no. Its 1 or 0. 1 does not equate to yes and 0 to no. They are opposite states. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:44:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Thats a reported data set. Not recorded. It's a topic that has come up many times. Each time we hear what people say happens in game. Many of these reports contradict one another. Reported data is not reliable. This does not mean it is wrong, only that it cannot be verified.
Also binary is not yes or no. Its 1 or 0. 1 does not equate to yes and 0 to no. They are opposite states.
a binary may not be yes or no
but yes and no are binary
semantics |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:49:00 -
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I do not dispute your knowledge on the topic. Only the presentation of your data. You are correct; Systems hacking does not effect recall. But Another poster could simply post that it does. At that point it is recorded data we need. Which I have provided. My evidence is easy to falsify and I challenge anyone to do so. Until then I stand by my testing and analysis.
I think we have a dissonance on the term "record" It does not mean video, it means a verifiable collection of data, in any format. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:53:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I do not dispute your knowledge on the topic. Only the presentation of your data. You are correct; Systems hacking does not effect recall. But Another poster could simply post that it does. At that point it is recorded data we need. Which I have provided. My evidence is easy to falsify and I challenge anyone to do so. Until then I stand by my testing and analysis.
the alturnative method to provided video proof is to provide a repeatable experament.
this would also provide the same measure of validity that video evidence provides it just takes a little initiative to veryify.
my experament above would prove that
both hacking modules themselves as well as the passive hacking do not provide a boost to recall speed, at the cost of about 18k SP to repeat the experament.
alturnativly you can just use militia hack mods in verying amounts but that leaves the question about the skill itself untouched.
and while we know that the skills act exactly like their module counterparts from various experaments revolving around them, its still helpful to provide a proof that illistrates it. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:56:00 -
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I think we are getting hung up on the term record. I use record to mean a verifiable method of data collection that can be analysed by others. I do not mean video recording.
I used max skills and max modules on a single character to reduce the number of variables. Same character in every way. The only difference was SH and Modules. By going max I eliminate anyone saying that the difference is there only it's small. I had the best of the best and it made zero difference. This leave no wiggle room. No discussion. It has no effect in the best conditions. |
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