You can always play CS 1.6 if you want hardcore FPS action.

AA is in every, if not most, FPS on consoles. It's a built in mechanic to help people cuz lolthumbs. Since when people are so "hardcore" around here that people looking down at people for using AA?

The AA is a little strong...so what? People can shoot back you now? Big deal. How many threads people gonna make about same **** over and over again? We get it. You hardcore FPS players don't like AA. The option is there if you want it on or off. Blame CCP for making it stronger than it was needed, but to act all "leet" and ****...LOL!

Get off your high horse.

Note: I consider myself a hardcore gamer, and this "issue" isn't affecting me one way or another.

Then your argument should be about the strength of the AA in DUST. If you want to feel like a hardcore player, try CS out. Heard there's no AA in that game.

You're arguing about games being too casual...yet you're playing DUST? This game is borderline CoD. It's easy mode. Just fit yourself with a Caldari proto suit, Flux nades, MD, Core nades, Nano hives, and plant yourself in a compound. I would go as far as to say CoD has a deeper gameplay aspect lol...

So they added AA, and this is the huge problem in DUST? The core gameplay in this game is atrocious. The AA currently, I would I agree it's a tad bit strong, but it makes up for the poor general gameplay mechanics.

I would agree CCP needs to dial down on the magnetism on the AA, but to remove it is a dumb idea.

ATM I'm not decidedly pro nor con AA. But if AA makes people focus more on tactics/teamplay and less on ridiculous bunny-hopping/strafing, then it will actually be a good thing. If the most important prerequisite to be good at a shooter is reflexes, eye-thumb coordination and muscle memory, then you can't really claim that AA is for the ignorant sort.

DUST has quite enough of EVE-like hard core gaming mechanics to weed out the lazy, instant gratification wanting types of people.

I recall all the hardcore gamers saying Dust would fail if CCP didn't make it the way they want.

The problem is -- it seems the hard core gamers might be in the minority in terms of people who play console games.

It's a tough call. However, bring in enough players and you can start to segregate them based on "where" they play so that better players can migrate into less hand holding and higher rewards.

I've lost hope in DUST a while now. Balance in this game is almost none existent. Tactics in "competitive" gameplay is to get on rooftops and spam whatever explosives / FG you can below, use the most OP weapons, and if you're not using a Caldari suit, you're gimping yourself. Also apparently, it's cool to use the melee exploit in competitive play also.

As I've told people before, the AA currently in the game is to offset the aiming mechanics in DUST. DICE did it with BF3 when they couldn't figure out how to fix input lag...they cranked up AA so people can feel like they can aim again. They over did it.

This is how CCP "fixed" aiming. They cranked up AA, and called it a day. My character still feels like he's a stick figure moving around. There's literally no fluidity in this game. Maybe a couple years from now DUST will feel nice and fluid, and aiming won't need a practical aimbot to make it feel "OK". Till then, AA is a must.

I'm a heavy, or was till 1.4 came out, and as a heavy i feel the effect of AA more than anyone in this game. Our hitbox is so big, it's impossible to miss us. But w/e. At this point I don't care enough for this game to stress over it anymore. When DUST comes on PS4 I'll care again.

To be honest Ludvig, I spent a good bit raging about aim assist. I have recently tried changing my point of view on the subject matter.

We are exaggerating by a bit by accusing the system of being aim and click. Is it easier? Yes it is. Is it effortlessness? Not entirely. Now the game has competition.

We have leveled aiming across players, but that isn't the only aspect of skill. Tactics, flanking, cover, suit set up, squad communication. Those are other things that take skill now. We are more vulnerable because we can't strafe off on the distance while lulzing while the new berries miss most of their shots.

All the vets should adapt. Even though aiming has become monstrously easier. Aim assist in the hands of a vet who can aim, well that should give you a sharp edge over other players. Everyone really scales up when you think about it. Sure we will die more, but pro players that understand tactics will still wreck face. Kalante for example is still doing fine.

I am starting to think people that complain about the AA just suck. Yes i know it makes the game a little more casual but based on those AA videos from other games, dust's AA is not so bad. Battlefield had the hipfire pretty much lock on to the guy while moving and aim at the guy for you while aiming down the sight. same as cod. halo had you hit the guy as long as you shot a foot away from him

If AA is as good as people say then way are people having a hard time killing my little logi suit? How come people still can't hit me at range while strafing? Why are blue berries still throwing up 1-13 and worse kill counts?

I don't use AA because it messes with my aim while ADS. I tested it and the only real advantage is the hipfire. you can't twich shot lock on someone.

I am just happy hit detection has been improved.

All we see now in the forums is this... "Aim assist blah blah blah is bad..."

You wanna know something ? It made the Scrubs better , and kinda level out all of them... The only ones really butthurt are the no-lifers, that keep playing the game all day long...

HTFU! Is that hurting your KDR? Mine is hurt aswell!

This is a game for even the most casual player... CCP made the right move... Otherwise we would have just a bunch of elite players proto stomping all the time, that's really bad for the newbie and bad for us as a community because new players won't join us...
If new players don't join, that's all CCP's fault aswell ... right ?
I'm tired of seeing the same BS of elite players complaing about their hurt KDR ...
GET GOOD !

.... Because as we all know this game is free to play and therefore a charity that CCP gives the public and keep updated and improved on a monthly basis, so anyone who plays the game AND pays is obviously in need of a psyche exam... OBVIOUSLY.



Aim Assist is working properly and here to stay. I really wish these anti-AA threads would start getting locked down...

Hi Eraga I am Ernaga

Yeah, with aim assist, it's like they have no skill, even if they are good. It's nothing like before when they had better gear and more SP and were stomping a noobs.

Noobs are shooting back??? How is this happening??!?!?

Just an opinion out thrown out there.
How could you even talk about "competitive gameplay" when:

a) Pc lag as hell for everyone
b) There is a certain thing called "SP" that allows you to deal much more damage, have much more HP
c) you allow people to use a clearly "op" support (kb/m) on a console game
d) you allow people to pay to get "better" faster

You already said that you're not a kb/m user. Well, then, you're ranting about aim assist, but you're saying nothing about kb/m support? Aim Assist might be a bit too much, but kb/m gives you an unfair advantage compared to ds3 ( Lolthumbs as Lance said and lolinputlag, lolstrafe)
You (not you) want skills to be rewarded? play with a ds3 like anybody else. Probably then, ccp would have never considered an aim assist if not to balance ds3 vs kb/m.
More on the skills: is it a "skill" to alternately press "a" and "d" on your keyboard while aiming to be "good"? Because yes, you might think that the guy in front of you sucks at aiming, but have you ever thought that the guy is fighting against his controller first?
I think You're wrong if you think that AA is there because of "noobs". AA is there mainly because of kb/m.