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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:42:00 -
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The best part about this topic is that the AR nerds aren't going to respond because they're afraid of math. Good luck man, you're still going to need it. +1 |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.11 23:50:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:well it ends up being nerfed for the short terms and tweaked later the ar currently seems to be the only weapon ccp got right on nearly the first try...
all the weaponry needs tweaking but the assault rifle in general has few drawbacks to begin with..
in real life the assault rifle is just an improved version of the smg...
its where the assault rifle came from in the first place...
its pretty much balanced the way it is currently...
in terms of gameplay..
of course the ar is probably going to be alot deadlier at range in the hands of a kbm user...
so its not accuracy so much as precision..
its quite inaccurate at those longer ranges and only a few rounds will hit but do barely any damage...
every little item on the game doesnt need to have massive drawbacks..
this game isnt run out into the middle of gunfire..
of course doing that is going to involve u getting mowed down in less than 1 sec...
nerfing the most common weapon so u can take out a large group of players isnt going to balance gameplay..
and so far the only major reason i see the nerf ar threads mostly involves a proto bear wanting to stop dieing.. so the ar stats should stay...
if u died to a gun by running out into the open u deserve that death...
just because a single weapon doesnt have many massive drawbacks, doesnt mean it should be useless...
ccp is trying to balance the game and release the new stuff..
basically doing both at the same time
its why some of the stuff has been nerfed and buffed.. Stopped caring what you had to say when you brought up real life. It's a video game, the AR shoots phased plasma, not bullets, plasma is high damage but short/mid range, it's blaster technology despite not overheating like blaster turrets. 1.5 has turned this into another game of AR > Everything else. If you can't see that, think about who you want this game to be fun for, you or everyone else. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.12 02:18:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Im going to be honest with you.
I dont know why CCP BUFFED the AR. I remember it used to do 31 / 31.5 / 32.5 ish damage. Now it goes around 37.5 at proto level. I DONT KNOW WHY CCP did this. Yes the AR is a pain in the butt to deal with and of course our friend CLONE117 has a lot wrong,but he does have a point. The AR IS the most Deadly weapon in a 1v1 situation, not considering ranges. ''all of the other guns can pretty much kill very effectively with out much sp investment..'' Not really bro,you need proficiency 3-4 to make the Laser rifle work and beat a MLT AR. You are over reacting a little.
But on the other stuff i think i agree with him. The AR has an insane DPS YES,but tahts in the imaginary case that ALL BULLETS HIT> Not taking into consideration,enemy movement, own fault misses, forgot to reload,etc... The real nerf the AR needs is: -ACtual Dispersion rate and recoil (For an AR they have nothing, the AR is more accurate than my LR, im not kidding) -Reduce the Aim assist, and this goes to all weapons.
Before 1.4 we still had the AR is OP thing, but before it was dodgable, bullets hurt but did not hit all the time. The problem is NOW they are hitting 58 out of 60 bullets,andTHATS what makes the AR feel op....
IMO that is. Bring strafing back and add some kick/dispersion to the AR. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.12 22:18:00 -
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Orion Vahid wrote:Ahhh...the AR nerf shall be glorious. I can just imagine the tears already It might make me want to reinstall again. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.12 22:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cosgar wrote:Orion Vahid wrote:Ahhh...the AR nerf shall be glorious. I can just imagine the tears already It might make me want to reinstall again. Ah, I'd thought your opinions were uninformed. Your confirmation was appreciated. I uninstalled today. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.12 22:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cosgar wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cosgar wrote:Orion Vahid wrote:Ahhh...the AR nerf shall be glorious. I can just imagine the tears already It might make me want to reinstall again. Ah, I'd thought your opinions were uninformed. Your confirmation was appreciated. I uninstalled today. You know, I used to respect your opinions, until you got onto the nerf brigade bandwagon. I've always been on the re-balance coalition. Why have I been defending logistics, tanks, heavies, scouts, lasers, the MD and the lolPlasma Cannon for all this time? But to be honest, I finally realized that this game is the same **** day in and day out. People cry nerf on something, CCP nerfs it, people cry for something else to be nerfed, CCP nerfs it and so on. If SP investments weren't devalued before, 1.5 has completely done it to the point that a BPO is as effective as millions of SP invested into prototype and I finally had enough. I've been posting a lot less frequently even before 1.5 but I've officially called it quits today and this probably will be my last post until some serious changes are made. In the meantime, I'll probably go back to CoD since it has more depth than Dust right now. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.14 07:57:00 -
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It's coming... |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:47:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:D legendary hero wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Firstly using math as the a prominent variable to balance weapons is just lol
I used math so... yeah. Quote: OP play consistent PC and then get back to me on weapon balance
the fact that ARs are pretty much the only weapon used in PC proves more than enough. I did with 1arm. the facts hold true. but how about this since a militia AR can do everything i mentioned how about a duvolle? Do you even do PC? Mass Drivers HMGs Scrambler Rifles Sniper Rifles Tanks All of them are used and just one of each can make a MASSIVE difference in a battle. So let me get this straight- when you go into a PC battle, the stats on everyone's gear magically changes? |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:09:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:after playing dust 514 for several days straight the ar really isnt op.
mass driver will destroy it at close range and laser rifle can destroy it at longer ranges.
so can assault scrambler rifle.
thats is pretty much it and the math being done here to use as evidence of the ar being op is basically stupid.
this thread just needs to die as several other guns r better or if not equal to the assault rifles killing potential.
the stats alone are stupid i think it all comes down to player skill. with the ar. no need to nerf it currently.
and off topic here. has any else noticed the base damage of the scrambler pistol being buffed from 72 to 80 damage per shot?
and now back on topic.
the ar has more recoil than all of the other guns in the game much much more recoil. You're so full of it that it's not even funny anymore. I just saw you QQing about the MD in another topic, even after someone posted math to prove otherwise. 1 v 1, an AR can get at least 11 rounds out before the muzzle on my MD can flash and you still claim it's OP. ****ing hypocrite. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:34:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i claim the damage mods added to the md make it op so stfu...
but then again i hate on all the damage mod lovers out there...
so stop bringing up stupid things i dont even remember happening. Post history doesn't lie.
Also, damage mods make anything OP. So your point is moot. |
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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.26 20:31:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:mass driver didnt need any massive nerfing in damage or other stuff what it did need was a nerf in the rate of fire for it.
now stop stalking me...
those posts r centuries old so its really stupid to bring it up. It's public information on a web forum, far from stalking, it's called using facts. I like to do that instead of talking about trees, flowers and feelings when giving feedback on here. Here's some more facts about the MD's DPS:
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The basic assault rifle does 34.0 damage per shot. It fires at a rate of 750 RPM. The DPS of this weapon, assuming every shot hits, is 425....
Mass Driver
Damage per shot is 242, direct hit, or 116, splash hit. It fires at 60 RPM. ThatGÇÖs 1 shot per second, or 242 DPS direct, 116 DPS splash.
AR has ~183 of a DPS advantage over the MD, and that's based off direct hit damage. Splash damage, it's a difference of ~309. What were you saying about nerfing the MD's ROF again? |
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