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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:41:00 -
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I think heavies are fine. I run a heavy suit and i got 506 shields and 803 armour. The only change is mabey make the hmg a little better at mid range. Make it havebetter dispersion or less heat up for the hmg like before it got nerfed in 1.4 |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:01:00 -
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mini rehak wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I think heavies are fine. I run a heavy suit and i got 506 shields and 803 armour. The only change is mabey make the hmg a little better at mid range. Make it havebetter dispersion or less heat up for the hmg like before it got nerfed in 1.4 I think the Heavy needs a decent HP buff. I have a Sentinel with 1600 hp and i STILL get soloed when I have the jump on people. I know damn well it's not me things just do crazy DPS.
Try the hmg, at close range nothing beats a hmg heavy |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:23:00 -
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mini rehak wrote:Dexter307 wrote:mini rehak wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I think heavies are fine. I run a heavy suit and i got 506 shields and 803 armour. The only change is mabey make the hmg a little better at mid range. Make it havebetter dispersion or less heat up for the hmg like before it got nerfed in 1.4 I think the Heavy needs a decent HP buff. I have a Sentinel with 1600 hp and i STILL get soloed when I have the jump on people. I know damn well it's not me things just do crazy DPS. Try the hmg, at close range nothing beats a hmg heavy I have HMG proficiency to 5. Allot of thing beat the hmg at close range, Shotguns, AR's, mass drivers just to name a few.
I run it with proficiency 5 and a complex damage mod. The only thing that stands a chance is a shotgun, ARs and MDs dont stand a chance |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:39:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:who ever said that SMG and AR outdamage HMG, well to keep it short: you are a scrub.
sub 20m nothing outdamages a HMG, it can deal 900 dps. the SMG and AR are not even close to capable of dealing such amounts of dps. that dps obviously comes with drawbacks, namely range and accuracy. you cant really expect to do this dps beyond that range, it would be totally overpowered.
the new buildings helped HMG too. they offer alot of cover and chokepoints. you are simply doing it wrong if you arent able to utilize this
That's a lie. The proto HMG does 660 DPS. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:59:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:who ever said that SMG and AR outdamage HMG, well to keep it short: you are a scrub.
sub 20m nothing outdamages a HMG, it can deal 900 dps. the SMG and AR are not even close to capable of dealing such amounts of dps. that dps obviously comes with drawbacks, namely range and accuracy. you cant really expect to do this dps beyond that range, it would be totally overpowered.
the new buildings helped HMG too. they offer alot of cover and chokepoints. you are simply doing it wrong if you arent able to utilize this That's a lie. The proto HMG does 660 DPS. ok, time for a lesson. 19.8 * 1.15 (skills) * ~1.2 (dmg mods) => ~27 damage per shot with 33.3 rounds per second thats around 900 dps. I might be wrong thought cause I dont have the possibility to check it right now 
That's assuming you are going for max dps. The amarr heavy cant even have 2 damage mods. Also there's stacking penaltys |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.11 13:24:00 -
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Lucifalic wrote:Heavy's need a buff. I think resistance (say 35%) to all small arms on BASE armor should be implemented. Trade off is dmg bonus to back attacks. hmg range buff for sure, should fire farther and harder then an ar (hence it being called a heavy mg) at the price of accuracy at range. There's no assault rifles around that fire larger rounds then a general electric minigun for example... At least in rl.
Add some proper dispersion to ar type weapons so spraying doesn't work at range and people have to burst fire it for accuracy (again like rl) and we will reach a better spot with everything.
Disclaimer: I am a scout
I think all we need is the sentinel skill changed to 3% damage resistance per level and a small buff to HMG range and/or spread
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