It all comes down to the expense of PC.

There is no way to train for it without team deploy. FW needs to be team deploy only and it needs to offer similar payouts as PC to the winner along with pub match payouts to the loser.

This gives enough incentive to these small corps to either combine or the players to find a bigger corp. once they can field multiple teams to participate in FW they will slowly start to get better at team play.

I talk to so many players who have adapted their game for squad play in pub matches and its SOOO far from what is needed in PC.

It's beyond me that more people aren't absolutely screaming for team deploy. The game is literally spinning its wheels in place until this happens.

We're we're having that very discussion last night running some FW matches. It's tough to get multiple squads in and that's the way you learn to get good at PC. I would also note at the voice chat architecture isn't really optimized for anything but squad chat either.

This isn't a charity. If you want land you have to go get it. If you don't have the capacity to go get it then do something about it or accept that you won't be given land for free. New Eden politics are well known for being very very scandalous and rough on those not willing to use their imagination and CCP never gave a noob corp in EVE land because they werent good enough to take it themselves.

CCP devs are probably laughing at people complaining about not being able to have land. Is the amount of ownable land too small? yes.

once we have more areas to conquer more people will have access simply because you cant defend it all, but until then, earn it like the rest of us.

I understand where you are coming from but nobody (at least not me) is asking to be "given" anything. Just that the requirement for particiapation, in this case player count, be lowered in specific (not all) areas of the PC landscape. That is it and that is all.

The reality is, Dust 514 is stagnant, The active community of players is quite small and the influx of new players is not very strong. So most players in the game who are interested in joining a corporation have done so and the majority of those players most likely selected a larger corporation because it offered then the full experience...ie: participation in Planetary Conquest.

That means that smaller corporations have very few resources to draw upon to bolster their ranks, made all the more difficult because they generally can not offer a very active or robust PC experience due to their low numbers. Providing access to PC...not actual land...can be accomplished with suggested changes and give smaller organizations and their members more to do in-game. If successful, they can turn that activity into a recruitment tool and hopefully, one day, become a larger corporation themselves.

Such a change does not take anything away from the larger corporations in terms of their ability to participate and be successful in PC, it just widens the number of corporations who can actively participate. Now I can understand how some larger corporations and alliances might feel threatened this reduction in exclusivity because it might make them less appealing to potential recruits who would prefer to join a smaller organization. But in the interest of better gameplay, I think it best for such groups to concede.

Look, I am actually part of a large community, much like yours, with over 500 active members across various FPS titles. When Dust 514 first entered open beta we focused most of our attention on recruiting players from within, in the hopes they would transfer to the new game. Unfortunately, the game failed to deliver early on and by the time we started to refocus on external recruitment, most players were fairly well settled. As the game continues to improve, we hope folks will reconsider Dust 514. In the meantime, we would love the opportunity to engage in meaningful combat operations. We are not asking for a handout or to be given anything. We are just asking for the chance to compete, without having to jump through hoops or be dictated to by other organizations.

Not really a lot to ask and from where I sit, it does not impact you or your corporation's ability to play the game in any meaningful way.

It all comes down to the expense of PC.

There is no way to train for it without team deploy. FW needs to be team deploy only and it needs to offer similar payouts as PC to the winner along with pub match payouts to the loser.

This gives enough incentive to these small corps to either combine or the players to find a bigger corp. once they can field multiple teams to participate in FW they will slowly start to get better at team play.

I talk to so many players who have adapted their game for squad play in pub matches and its SOOO far from what is needed in PC.

It's beyond me that more people aren't absolutely screaming for team deploy. The game is literally spinning its wheels in place until this happens.

I understand where you are coming from but nobody (at least not me) is asking to be "given" anything. Just that the requirement for particiapation, in this case player count, be lowered in specific (not all) areas of the PC landscape. That is it and that is all.

The reality is, Dust 514 is stagnant, The active community of players is quite small and the influx of new players is not very strong. So most players in the game who are interested in joining a corporation have done so and the majority of those players most likely selected a larger corporation because it offered then the full experience...ie: participation in Planetary Conquest.

That means that smaller corporations have very few resources to draw upon to bolster their ranks, made all the more difficult because they generally can not offer a very active or robust PC experience due to their low numbers. Providing access to PC...not actual land...can be accomplished with suggested changes and give smaller organizations and their members more to do in-game. If successful, they can turn that activity into a recruitment tool and hopefully, one day, become a larger corporation themselves.

Such a change does not take anything away from the larger corporations in terms of their ability to participate and be successful in PC, it just widens the number of corporations who can actively participate. Now I can understand how some larger corporations and alliances might feel threatened this reduction in exclusivity because it might make them less appealing to potential recruits who would prefer to join a smaller organization. But in the interest of better gameplay, I think it best for such groups to concede.

Look, I am actually part of a large community, much like yours, with over 500 active members across various FPS titles. When Dust 514 first entered open beta we focused most of our attention on recruiting players from within, in the hopes they would transfer to the new game. Unfortunately, the game failed to deliver early on and by the time we started to refocus on external recruitment, most players were fairly well settled. As the game continues to improve, we hope folks will reconsider Dust 514. In the meantime, we would love the opportunity to engage in meaningful combat operations. We are not asking for a handout or to be given anything. We are just asking for the chance to compete, without having to jump through hoops or be dictated to by other organizations.

Not really a lot to ask and from where I sit, it does not impact you or your corporation's ability to play the game in any meaningful way.

It's very interesting, given that DUST is starkly different from EVE because of it's lobby shooter structure, that we come to exactly the same conversation in DUST that they have in EVE.

That the mechanics of the game exclude meaningful small-gang and small corp contributions to sov geopolitical warfare.

Now that's all imma gunna say about that because that conversation can, and has, gone on for well over 100,000 pages.

I've been having this creeping intuition that the proper integration of DUST into New Eden is going to tear open a few old wounds and reveal some scar tissue. At this point in history, EVE has only very partially realized the promise of New Eden, and there is the potential with DUST to revisit some of the decisions that have brought us to where we are today.

Now those are going to be some interesting discussions.

Even if it does extend what checks and balances stop alliance from controlling it all?

Would it be possible to elect a dev or a player to watch over PC battles to make sure nothing dirty I.E attacking your own district?