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Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:19:00 -
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i tend to get at least 15 kills without using my madrugar while running my proto gallente assult suit with credron breach AR |
Protocake JR
Ancient Exiles
657
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:31:00 -
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3- 21 without aim assist
37-0 with aim assist |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1129
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:34:00 -
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I don't know about without aim-assist ... haven't try that yet.. but.. ;
DS3 aim-assist ; 23-7
Mouse; 17-1
Keep in mind that i still learning the new mouse mechanics, i haven't reach my peak yet. |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
61
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Posted - 2013.09.07 09:39:00 -
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I don't even make past 5 kills with aim-assist or no aim-assist before 1.4 and after 1.4.. OP is too good |
CaveCav
Eliters
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
20
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:11:00 -
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I found myself very confortable with Aim-Assist turned off...I tend to go 10+ kills and 2-3 deaths max, and usually loads of assists like 15+ |
Purona
The Vanguardians
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:39:00 -
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im a logi so i never actually got that many kills |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:43:00 -
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Well with a laser rifle:
With aim assist - 15:5
Without aim assist 15:2
However I use the mass driver more often, which didnt get aim assist
before 1.4 - 8:3
after 1.4 - 20:4 (what the flux?) |
Zelorian Dexter snr
DVC 514
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:44:00 -
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I'm a logi so shooting people is secondary function
1.3
Ds3 3/8
Kbm 8/3
1.4
Ds3 9/3
Kbm 9/3
I have found the aim assist has made the ds3 a viable option to kbm |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
226
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:58:00 -
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I don't know why keyboard and mouse were mentioned. Don't people realize DS3 is has a superior strafe? If you're able to aim, anyways. Sigh. Crutches be crutchin', I suppose.
On a more topic thing, I don't use aim assist. I don't need it. I have two thumbs that aren't new to a controller. I can't really give a K/D R, seeing as I use pretty everything in an experimental setup. Generally a 15-2 when I'm not going to use crazy setups.
No vehicles. No AR.
I do miss the mouse action back in the UT days. People just can't aim these days, unfortunately.
Added note: I managed to kill some people with standard Laser Rifle all by my lonesome with no damage mods. Can I have an award? |
Zelorian Dexter snr
DVC 514
14
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Posted - 2013.09.07 10:58:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Well with a laser rifle:
With aim assist - 15:5
Without aim assist 15:2
However I use the mass driver more often, which didnt get aim assist
before 1.4 - 8:3
after 1.4 - 20:4 (what the flux?)
Better hit detection |
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
104
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:24:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:3- 21 without aim assist
37-0 with aim assist
lol. this made me chuckle |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
923
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:28:00 -
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Not bad. You think, 1.4 launched Tuesday and we've been playing without AA for quite some time. I'm actually thinking about turning it off cause I don't like how it tugs. I can be a terrorizer without it. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
130
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:37:00 -
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45-1
DS3
No AA....ever.
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1472
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:40:00 -
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Yeah I don't use Aim assist either but the turned down strafing speed really helps against the suits that vibrated back and fourth to avoid bullets. |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
27
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:42:00 -
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depends on the match and what i'm using
AR full ato 15-3 with AA 18-3without (note I tend to have a habit of fighting AA then letting it help me it wants to aim for the hit box I want to aim for the player model.)
Forge Gun(doesn't matter it has no AA) 20-2
Burst of Tac AR 20-4 with 21-3 without.
Scrambler rifle 14-5 with 13-4 without not that good with this weapon yet |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition
60
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:43:00 -
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It's easier to get head shots with it turned off, and you can spin faster too because there's no drag when you pass your crosshair over an enemy while aim assists is off. Both have advantages, but I prefer it off, just like I do in any other fps. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1256
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:44:00 -
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i keep it off doing better its a very bad game if i dont break the 20 mark |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.09.07 11:48:00 -
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22-3 with AA (got hit by stupid OB once)
15-2 without AA.
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Sneaky Fletcher
Three-body Solution
38
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Posted - 2013.09.07 12:24:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Protocake JR wrote:3- 21 without aim assist
37-0 with aim assist lol. this made me chuckle
iKR??.??
Log in log off*
See you tomorrow!! o7 |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1173
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:26:00 -
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I love these big sample sets. Statisticians would cry. |
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:38:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:3- 21 without aim assist
37-0 with aim assist
So you admit you can't aim... |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
916
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:44:00 -
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Depend whos on the other team. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2029
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:51:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:I love these big sample sets. Statisticians would cry.
We need three things to test if two data sets belong to the same population or not:
1) Sample size
2) Mean
3) Standard deviation
The larger the sample size, the more accurate the test.
A sample size of one point from each population is too small to make any inference. You don't know the degree of variation, so you have no idea how far from the average it might be. The average could be anything.
In this case you would like 20 matches with AA on and another 20 with AA off. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
837
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:14:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:I love these big sample sets. Statisticians would cry.
It's called working deep in the skinny tail. Hope you're a Bayesian ;)
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
6112
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:15:00 -
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I get more than that in full Militia fits without auto aim
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
993
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:19:00 -
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My name is SURT GODS END. 
*you didn't answer the question*
I do great! geez... way to kill my cool.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
837
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:37:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Depend whos on the other team.
+1 for truth.
But this brings up a good point. We've all seen the reticule adhesion in the Russian vid(waiting for more vids where we can see the DS3 simultaneously, personally). If we accept the video at face value, the next question is how much difference does it actually make in a firefight?
Right now i'm thinking that for 1-on-1 if neither party is surprised and both have cover the outcome won't be changed at all. I'd really like to see a vid where peeps test the adhesion when the target steps behind 100% cover.
If it's 1-on-many where the many have AA tuned on the effects will really stack and our solo hardcore gamer is toast.
There are many different scenarios and in a lot of them the AA isn't going to make much difference at all. In other, it will dominate. |
Scalesdini
The Surrogates Of War
181
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:49:00 -
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Nitrobeacon wrote:It's easier to get head shots with it turned off, and you can spin faster too because there's no drag when you pass your crosshair over an enemy while aim assists is off. Both have advantages, but I prefer it off, just like I do in any other fps.
trollolololol, good one bro
turn AA on
NEVER ADS! EVER!
get crosshair onto enemy, hold down trigger with lollaser-accurate AR
release right analog stick
watch recoil suck crosshair up to enemy head
watch AA keep crosshair on enemy head
?????
headshots!
It's almost sad how few people have figured this out really. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
448
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Posted - 2013.09.07 14:53:00 -
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Only show offs turn of there aa. Its in the game for a reason so stop crying about it. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
678
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:07:00 -
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I do about the same with or without it, and about the same as I did in 1.3. (Bog standard B-grade 2.78 KDR, balanced by some 30/2 matches, and some 8/8.)
I think I didn't noticed how strong AA was (Russian video finally convinced me) because I was good and well trained to track my target in CQC from being HMG Heavy, and because I'm Forge Gunning 60% of the time. With it on, I may get one kill a match I didn't deserve now.
Still, it's a rare instance of a feature helping noobs without helping vets even more. If you had good aim to begin with, it doesn't do ****. And any feature that keeps new people playing and not leaving out of frustration from getting steamrolled by vets is a good feature in my book. |
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Abbadon De Luc
Ancient Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:10:00 -
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31/4 without. 35/4 without. I honestly dont like the aim assist. Messes with the GLU s aiming. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
853
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Posted - 2013.09.07 21:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I get more than that in full Militia fits without auto aim
Which proves my point exactly.
Namely that in spite of all the wailing, moaning, gnashing of the teeth, foaming at the mouth, bleeding from the eyes, invoking dead gods, doomcrying and trashtalking on these forums.....genuine player skill is the primary driver of performance in DUST.
Notwithstanding our MMO skill tree, our tiered suits and weapons, our AOE weapons, our dual input systems, our aim assist, etc.
That does not happen by accident, and there are many here not giving CCP their due. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8140
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Posted - 2013.09.07 21:33:00 -
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More or less about the same. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
179
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Posted - 2013.09.07 21:34:00 -
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15 - 30 kills using std gear with it off
30 - 40+ kills with it on using std gear |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
38
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Posted - 2013.09.09 09:52:00 -
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i belive that not useing aim assist provides more of a challenge to the game. requiring you to actually aim while fighting and plus it helps with snipeing since it dosnt move to thier chest
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