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Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2013.09.06 17:50:00 -
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It can't be a game to game suit anymore, its entirely situational. Yes the disabled tacnet is nice, but we die too quickly to be viable in pubs. The auto-aim has killed us, along with stamina and strafing nerfs.
What can we do to bring them back from the brink? |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
560
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Posted - 2013.09.06 17:55:00 -
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Increase speed. Make them override aimbot. Increased PG/CPU, seeing how they seem meant to have limited slots meant to hold the best stuff. Increase turn speed. Whatever suits their profession. |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative..
516
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:02:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Increase speed. Make them override aimbot. Increased PG/CPU, seeing how they seem meant to have limited slots meant to hold the best stuff. Increase turn speed. Whatever suits their profession. No aimbot on scouts would be wonderful actually. Scouts are rare enough and weak enough to stop everyone complaining that this would be OP for them. That would put us to where we were last build, still needing a buff. I agree with all your stuff's +1 |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:05:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Increase speed. Make them override aimbot. Increased PG/CPU, seeing how they seem meant to have limited slots meant to hold the best stuff. Increase turn speed. Whatever suits their profession. Smaller hit box, extra equipment slot, and an inherent translucent cloaking ability built into the suit if you're standing still. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
670
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:12:00 -
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Add active stealth camo in the game and give it to Scouts.
Activated equipment module (like vehicle modules) with cooldown, gives you the "Predator effect". Attacking or sprinting breaks stealth for a few seconds. Player stills shows up when Active Scanned. (Incentive to fit sig reduction modules with it.)
Would make those ninja nova knifers pretty scary. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
239
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:16:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Increase speed. Make them override aimbot. Increased PG/CPU, seeing how they seem meant to have limited slots meant to hold the best stuff. Increase turn speed. Whatever suits their profession. All of these except the 2nd and 4th one. Aim assist is fine and in 1.5 we will be able to customize our sensitivity. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3230
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:17:00 -
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We can start by not using scouts as heavies and instead use them as scouts. |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative..
516
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:20:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Xender17 wrote:Increase speed. Make them override aimbot. Increased PG/CPU, seeing how they seem meant to have limited slots meant to hold the best stuff. Increase turn speed. Whatever suits their profession. All of these except the 2nd and 4th one. Aim assist is fine and in 1.5 we will be able to customize our sensitivity. Aim assist IS NOT FINE. It makes scouts unplayable. We are the weakest suit on the field, surviving only by speed and stealth. At the minute, stealth works, but speed is useless because aim assist takes over. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
239
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:21:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Xender17 wrote:Increase speed. Make them override aimbot. Increased PG/CPU, seeing how they seem meant to have limited slots meant to hold the best stuff. Increase turn speed. Whatever suits their profession. All of these except the 2nd and 4th one. Aim assist is fine and in 1.5 we will be able to customize our sensitivity. Aim assist IS NOT FINE. It makes scouts unplayable. We are the weakest suit on the field, surviving only by speed and stealth. At the minute, stealth works, but speed is useless because aim assist takes over. Then increase their speed |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2279
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:24:00 -
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I think if we just increase their Speed, and when CCP decide to tone down AA, we will be much harder to hit, so immunity to AA wouldn't be needed.
Increase their Scan Range though, should be 20 not 10, 10 is the same as the other suits. |
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Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative..
516
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:24:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:We can start by not using scouts as heavies and instead use them as scouts. Who has ever tried that? |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:27:00 -
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Speed increase. Also scout-centric equipment will really help: Ascension Cables, Jetpacks, and Nano Jump Drives. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3806
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:49:00 -
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Give Light Frame suits a base of 15m scan range instead of the current 10m. Give Scout suits specifically the unique "Passive scanned targets appear on TACNET" ability.
With that change, we can actually be Scouts without compromising our abilitiy to be useful to the team. The significantly larger range on Active Scanners makes them more effective than even wel-buffed passive scanning, and once they get WP bonuses, those won't apply to a Scout's passive scan, so there's still incentive for Scouts who want to be a dedicated scanner scout instead of just having the scanning as a supporting role.
As for aim assist, as usual, I think it needs to be tweaked, but it WON'T be a real problem for Scouts if it's toned down a little. If you want to avoid being killed in a low-HP suit, avoid being shot. if you have the scan range advantage as I've proposed, you'll be able to see enemies coming before they see you, and as such, you'll be able to more effectively flank and use a stealth approach. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3239
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:52:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:We can start by not using scouts as heavies and instead use them as scouts. Who has ever tried that? I've mowed down plenty of idiot scouts that charge straight at me, thinking they're running a brick tank.
I've been mowed down by intelligent scouts that shotgun blast the back of my head or get onto a rooftop with a TAC. |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative..
516
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:57:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Spec Ops Cipher wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:We can start by not using scouts as heavies and instead use them as scouts. Who has ever tried that? I've mowed down plenty of idiot scouts that charge straight at me, thinking they're running a brick tank. I've been mowed down by intelligent scouts that shotgun blast the back of my head or get onto a rooftop with a TAC. If you're ever on the EU servers you'll run into me, delivering you a shotgun blast to the back of the head. The problem is now everyone who sees us, instantly kills us. We used to have a chance in 1v1's, now we don't. |
Purona
The Vanguardians
56
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:02:00 -
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if a scout suit has been caught in a 1 v 1 something went horribly wrong
scratch that if ANYONE is caught in a 1 v 1 something went horribly wrong |
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