Seriously, how hard can it be to code up a solution to redline sniping? You've got the ability to distinguish when someone's in the redline - you demonstrate that every time an enemy crosses the redline. But you can't figure out how to point it towards friendly units? Outrageous this is still an issue.

This game has been around how long? By not fixing this, CCP, you're basically condoning it as a valid and perfectly normal tactic. So there's that. And you know, the ever-increasing number of snipers I see going 30+ / 0. I guess that's cool too, huh? But hey, let's fix vehicles first. There are way more of them than redline snipers, right? (Protip: That was sarcasm)

That is because it is a perfect valid and normal tactic.

Read our history. Or if that is too much just watch the movie Shooter or Sniper ('93 Tom Berenger, noob sniper being taught). No sniper in the real world wants to snipe closer than they have to. It is stupid.

Why is this so hard for you and other QQ Kittens? Heavies have to take cover, or they should, when crossing terrain. When snipers are about so does everyone else. It isn't safe. In particular when a very good sniper is about.

You are mostly okay when I am sniping, red line or not, because I get the job done but I will run out of ammo without a Hive. However, sniping is mostly boring to me as does little to win the game although they can be very effective on defense of a point if they find the right location.

Take cover, tell the squad when snipers are about. When you are dead check the player list and see if one Red is climbing the sheets with Zero deaths. If that is your sniper tell the squad, tell the team. Someone, could be you, can go counter that Red sniper. Hit them with a Forge Gun, a Rail Gun Turret, tell the Rail Gun Tank to hammer that spot then when the sniper pulls back hack the point. Have the Blue sniper either counter snipe or at least strip their shields, the Red sniper will pull back.

Learn the lesson. Play the game. Leave the QQ for EVE.

You've got the ability to distinguish when someone's in the redline - you demonstrate that every time an enemy crosses the redline.

Seriously, how hard can it be to code up a solution to redline sniping? You've got the ability to distinguish when someone's in the redline - you demonstrate that every time an enemy crosses the redline. But you can't figure out how to point it towards friendly units? Outrageous this is still an issue.

This game has been around how long? By not fixing this, CCP, you're basically condoning it as a valid and perfectly normal tactic. So there's that. And you know, the ever-increasing number of snipers I see going 30+ / 0. I guess that's cool too, huh? But hey, let's fix vehicles first. There are way more of them than redline snipers, right? (Protip: That was sarcasm)

with high risk also associated with them.

Why not simply counter snipe them? I'm not sure why this is a problem.

Also, snipers don't win matches.

That is because it is a perfect valid and normal tactic.

Read our history. Or if that is too much just watch the movie Shooter or Sniper ('93 Tom Berenger, noob sniper being taught). No sniper in the real world wants to snipe closer than they have to. It is stupid.

Why is this so hard for you and other QQ Kittens? Heavies have to take cover, or they should, when crossing terrain. When snipers are about so does everyone else. It isn't safe. In particular when a very good sniper is about.

You are mostly okay when I am sniping, red line or not, because I get the job done but I will run out of ammo without a Hive. However, sniping is mostly boring to me as does little to win the game although they can be very effective on defense of a point if they find the right location.

Take cover, tell the squad when snipers are about. When you are dead check the player list and see if one Red is climbing the sheets with Zero deaths. If that is your sniper tell the squad, tell the team. Someone, could be you, can go counter that Red sniper. Hit them with a Forge Gun, a Rail Gun Turret, tell the Rail Gun Tank to hammer that spot then when the sniper pulls back hack the point. Have the Blue sniper either counter snipe or at least strip their shields, the Red sniper will pull back.

Learn the lesson. Play the game. Leave the QQ for EVE.

You are mostly okay when I am sniping, red line or not, because I get the job done but I will run out of ammo without a Hive. .

Working as intended.

Counter snipe, forge snipe, fly a dropship over him and have your gunner shoot him. If you are unable to do these things, tell your squad his position and someone else will get him.

Sniper fits are usually pricy, so they tend not to run around in the middle of the map in an expensive glass cannon. It's common sense.

This redline you see and the game warns you about isn't the same for the sniper. In fact he has no feedback to tell if he is in an area where you cannot touch him other than intuition. Therefore your statement above makes zero sense.

People need to stop bitching about redline sniping. There is no such thing. A sniper cannot snipe from behind a redline. If he was behind a redline he'd take damage and die.

What you are really bitching about is sniping period. You hate it, as well you should, but it is a valid game mechanic with rather trivial counters to it.

Counter snipe - Why should I change my playstyle completely just to counter yours?
Forge snipe - I actually do this, but it's only possible when the target is within 300M. Redline snipers usually exceed that by a large margin(You know, since they have a 500-1000M effective range)
Fly a Dropship - Really? So I should have to sacrafice a dropship and a suit just to dive the redline to kill you? How the hell does this not seem wrong to you idiots??

Additonally, sniper fits are not pricy. All you need is a gun and damage mods on a BPO suit, maybe a CPU or Grid extender. And a crappy Hive if you really want to be self sufficient. The amount of BPO snipers packing Prototype guns is astounding, and far cheaper than what you're leading on about.

The reason why most people snipe is because they are low on isk, have been given orders from the squad leader to be a guardian sniper or they just want to sit back, relax and pop a few heads off with ease. if you're so bent out of shape about redline snipers then go sniper hunting. Fly a dropship near where you think they are and kill them. I have had many occurences of that . It is very effective. try it sometime instead of bitching on the forums.

You know what the redline sniper hates the most?

A sniper.

See, everybody can play that game. You think snipers should also ***** about snipers?

Even snipers have to deal with snipers.

And the next time I hear somebody say being a sniper in a video game is being a coward you are welcome to go back in time and tell my younger self that while sitting in a position I could have my head blown off at any minute.

Go join the military for real. Otherwise, you're a coward for only fighting in a video game *****!

I'll sit and shoot any way, any where and any thing I damn well please when it's nothing but pixels. I already put my life and assets on the line. I think I'll relax now thank you very much.

Counter snipe - Why should I change my playstyle completely just to counter yours?
Forge snipe - I actually do this, but it's only possible when the target is within 300M. Redline snipers usually exceed that by a large margin(You know, since they have a 500-1000M effective range)
Fly a Dropship - Really? So I should have to sacrafice a dropship and a suit just to dive the redline to kill you? How the hell does this not seem wrong to you idiots??

Additonally, sniper fits are not pricy. All you need is a gun and damage mods on a BPO suit, maybe a CPU or Grid extender. And a crappy Hive if you really want to be self sufficient. The amount of BPO snipers packing Prototype guns is astounding, and far cheaper than what you're leading on about.

That is because it is a perfect valid and normal tactic.

Read our history. Or if that is too much just watch the movie Shooter or Sniper ('93 Tom Berenger, noob sniper being taught). No sniper in the real world wants to snipe closer than they have to. It is stupid.

Why is this so hard for you and other QQ Kittens? Heavies have to take cover, or they should, when crossing terrain. When snipers are about so does everyone else. It isn't safe. In particular when a very good sniper is about.

You are mostly okay when I am sniping, red line or not, because I get the job done but I will run out of ammo without a Hive. However, sniping is mostly boring to me as does little to win the game although they can be very effective on defense of a point if they find the right location.

Take cover, tell the squad when snipers are about. When you are dead check the player list and see if one Red is climbing the sheets with Zero deaths. If that is your sniper tell the squad, tell the team. Someone, could be you, can go counter that Red sniper. Hit them with a Forge Gun, a Rail Gun Turret, tell the Rail Gun Tank to hammer that spot then when the sniper pulls back hack the point. Have the Blue sniper either counter snipe or at least strip their shields, the Red sniper will pull back.

Learn the lesson. Play the game. Leave the QQ for EVE.

Do you see forum posts complaining that snipers take a drop ship up to those tall towers? No. Know why? Because the enemy can take a drop ship up there, too, and at least have a chance of killing you.

You can take a dropship right up to redline snipers too. The arial redline is much further back than the one on the ground. Just fly out to him and kill him. Oh, and you do see plenty of people complaining about snipers on towers too.

Forge snipe - I actually do this, but it's only possible when the target is within 300M. Redline snipers usually exceed that by a large margin(You know, since they have a 500-1000M effective range)

I think for the folk who love snipers (and just co-incidentally play as snipers), what you need is a game mode where snipers are not allowed, but in play, say between 30 seconds to 2 minutes, you just die while playing. It's completely arbitrary. See how much you find it to be fun gameplay when there's no pretense about it being a random number generator getting you killed.

And then you get out of the dropship and die when you revert back to the standard, ground redline mapping.

"Bring squadmates to shoot them duh"
With what? Under powered dropship turrets? If I wanted to tickle them, I'd counter snipe with my STD sniper(because , as i've said multiple times - I don't snipe or enjoy sniping and therefore don't want to do it).

Oh, and I find it very stupid that the counter to 1 man? Is a squad. It should be a scout, hunting them down with a low sig radius, planting a shotgun to their skull. Not a counter sniper. Rock should not be the counter rock hur dur