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Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.05 21:28:00 -
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Working as intended.
Counter snipe, forge snipe, fly a dropship over him and have your gunner shoot him. If you are unable to do these things, tell your squad his position and someone else will get him.
Sniper fits are usually pricy, so they tend not to run around in the middle of the map in an expensive glass cannon. It's common sense. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:30:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Counter snipe - Why should I change my playstyle completely just to counter yours? Forge snipe - I actually do this, but it's only possible when the target is within 300M. Redline snipers usually exceed that by a large margin(You know, since they have a 500-1000M effective range) Fly a Dropship - Really? So I should have to sacrafice a dropship and a suit just to dive the redline to kill you? How the hell does this not seem wrong to you idiots??
Additonally, sniper fits are not pricy. All you need is a gun and damage mods on a BPO suit, maybe a CPU or Grid extender. And a crappy Hive if you really want to be self sufficient. The amount of BPO snipers packing Prototype guns is astounding, and far cheaper than what you're leading on about.
Heavy suits can withstand multiple sniper shots (especially if the sniper is in a cheap BPO fit) and make excellent forge counter-snipers (stack shields). Cheap BPO fits will be easy to spot, won't hit hard and are very easy to pop. As others have pointed out, the rendering distances are not that far. Use an active scanner to easily pick out the locations of snipers not fitting damps.
You don't have to sacrifice the dropship. The arial redline is much further back than the one one the ground, so just hover next to him and have your gunner take him out, or land the f*cking thing on his head and fly away.
Good snipers wear good fits (being able to 2-shot someone is 100x better than having to 3-shotting them, not 3x better). And if you're dying to a sniper in 3 shots then you're doing something very wrong. Running around in a 100K+ glass cannon around the middle of the battlefield is dumb as hell. Most of the best sniping spots are along the perimeter of the battlefield (sniping from the top of buildings is a death-sentence because it's the first place other snipers check for an easy kill). It's much harder to spot a sniper along a massive ridge-line or tucked away into a corner of a mountain where you will blend in.
Snipers are psychological warriors, their presence alone prevents the enemy from moving efficiently around the battlefield, slows their movements and forces them to constantly move from cover-to-cover. It also causes people to stop focusing on the objective and try to hunt down the sniper because they're pissed off (i.e. guys like you). If 1 sniper can keep several other players occupied trying to hunt him down then he's effectively given the rest of his team a significant advantage.
Your tears are so delicious... |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:00:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Do you see forum posts complaining that snipers take a drop ship up to those tall towers? No. Know why? Because the enemy can take a drop ship up there, too, and at least have a chance of killing you. You can take a dropship right up to redline snipers too. The arial redline is much further back than the one on the ground. Just fly out to him and kill him. Oh, and you do see plenty of people complaining about snipers on towers too. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:31:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:And then you get out of the dropship and die when you revert back to the standard, ground redline mapping.
"Bring squadmates to shoot them duh" With what? Under powered dropship turrets? If I wanted to tickle them, I'd counter snipe with my STD sniper(because , as i've said multiple times - I don't snipe or enjoy sniping and therefore don't want to do it).
Oh, and I find it very stupid that the counter to 1 man? Is a squad. It should be a scout, hunting them down with a low sig radius, planting a shotgun to their skull. Not a counter sniper. Rock should not be the counter rock hur dur It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds to shoot him in the back of the head and get back in your ship. He's too busy looking down his scope at stuff 200m away, unable to move or his scope will sway. You can also land on top of him, which will kill him (and probably be very satisfying). I kill snipers all the time, they're usually easy kills, and hunting the good snipers is some of the most fun gameplay there is in DUST. There are plenty of counters to snipers, you're just whining.
And your tears are so wonderful... |
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