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Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:20:00 -
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Saying strafing is bad is basically like saying Scouts dont belong in this game.
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:26:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Saying strafing is bad is basically like saying Scouts dont belong in this game.
Medium Frame 514. Not true at all, give them a passive cloak mechanic similar to Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier. Covert Ops Cloaks would still allow for sprinting.
That would really help.
Cant wait for it to be in Update 1.9 in 2016.
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:41:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Saying strafing is bad is basically like saying Scouts dont belong in this game.
Medium Frame 514. No, it means scouts dont belong in slayer combat, scouts need to play smart and you know SCOUT. I have seen plenty of scout suits, one guy I ran with had a sniper in combat of 30-40m and he still did well! He used an active scanner and visual confirmation to give us enemy informatiom, he even hacked a cru right under there noses to give a us a flanking oppurtunity. Scouts need to be prepared to play there actual role, and so do heavies, and logistics suits, this is encouraging people to plau as a team and play to their suits strengths!
Yeah.
I'll Scout with my equalised scan range, one equipement, and ****** stamina.
Boy, CCP sure do know the role of the Scout.
Scouts dont have a role, anything a Scout can do, a Logi can do better.
Our Stamina was nerfed, we got some ridiculous stamina recharge delay, our passive scanning was nerfed, and we lost an equipment slot.
I refuse to use an Active Scanner because my Passive Scanning should be enough, but Scouts are like dropships, CCP still doesn't understand their role, even though its in their name.
He really doesn't know what hes talking about. |
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:55:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Saying strafing is bad is basically like saying Scouts dont belong in this game.
Medium Frame 514. No, it means scouts dont belong in slayer combat, scouts need to play smart and you know SCOUT. I have seen plenty of scout suits, one guy I ran with had a sniper in combat of 30-40m and he still did well! He used an active scanner and visual confirmation to give us enemy informatiom, he even hacked a cru right under there noses to give a us a flanking oppurtunity. Scouts need to be prepared to play there actual role, and so do heavies, and logistics suits, this is encouraging people to plau as a team and play to their suits strengths! Yeah. I'll Scout with my equalised scan range, one equipement, and ****** stamina. Boy, CCP sure do know the role of the Scout. Scouts dont have a role, anything a Scout can do, a Logi can do better. Our Stamina was nerfed, we got some ridiculous stamina recharge delay, our passive scanning was nerfed, and we lost an equipment slot. I refuse to use an Active Scanner because my Passive Scanning should be enough, but Scouts are like dropships, CCP still doesn't understand their role, even though its in their name. He really doesn't know what hes talking about. Just because he has better described how things should be rather than how they are, doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is talking about. Why CCP nerfed scouts the way they have, IDK.
No.
Hes telling me to play a Scout in a Scout suit when the game doesn't properly support it.
He thinks you can do it, but its much more effective to play aggressivly as a Scout, you're worthless to the team if you're not. |
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Posted - 2013.09.06 16:24:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
First of all you instantly assume that because I said scouts need to be scouts, I think the class is balanced and fair, its anything from it, yes you need more speed, yes you need more stamina, yes you need faster stamina regen, yes you need a higher scan radius., hell yes you need 2 eq slots, yes the logi needs to be changed (thats a different matter).
But there are problems with even your attitude to scouting, your passive scan is for YOU while a scout needs a buff of maybe 15-20m passive scan, the fact that you refuse to scan for your team shows you want a fast medium suit.
Scouts are all about powerful strategic assets, there weapon is for protection should they be caught, not for pure assaulting, scouts slip behind enemy lines, give their positions, nullify their advantages, provide attack points via uplinks!
If younwant scout that runs into group of guys with a shotgun and walks out the other side, use the assault suit thats what its for! If you dont understand that your job is not to kill people, then I suggest you play cod while using the lightweight perk!!
You're asking us to be Scouts when playing agressivly is far more rewarding than trying to fill a role another spec could do better.
A Logi/Assault with the Scanner fills the role better, they've got more tank, more slots, more PG/CPU, and in the Logi's case, more Equipment slots.
Whats the point of fielding a Scout with an Active Scanner? They go down quicker, the speed difference is so minimal that the medium's tank and ability to fit Proto Weaponry and Proto Equip, makes it a better suit for the job.
I would be Scouting, if the game would let me, but right now its not possible, because its not supported, when I go Shotgunning I'm not trying to close large gaps across an open terrain, I stick to CQC areas and try get the jump on an enemy when possible.
The game doesn't reward you for Passive Scanning, not even Active Scanning, and the fact that I have to sacrifice my biotics, which I basically survive on, to fit a decent scan on a Scout is ridiculous.
There is one thing the game does reward you for doing, and thats killing.
Ask any Corp, if they had the choice, which would they pick;
Minmatar Proto Logi - Biotic Tanked (25% Hack increase, you cant imagine how useful this is in PC battles, more tank, more EQ)
Minmatar Proto Scout - Speed Tanked (Slightly more speed / Stamina, paper thin shield, 1 EQ, 25% Nova Knife damage increase, less Dropsuit Sig)
I bet, majority of serious corps, would pick the Logi. |
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