As far as i understand aim assist applies to all direct hit weapons that have no splash damage.

And yes now with aim assist and hit detection working players drop quick.
The numbers need to be looked at much more closely as far as how much damage a lot of these weapons do per hit.

Worth noting it doesn't seem to impact all weapons. I noticed some aim-assist with ARs (perhaps every shot triggers the aim-assist effect?), but it isn't sufficient to completely correct your aim if you're shooting in the general area hip-firing. On the other hand, sniper rifles, mass drivers, and scramblers (pistol/semi-auto-rifle) I found no particular impact.

Maybe it's just a rate-of-fire related issue.

Hit detection seems better than it was before, and that might be part of the issue.

Most people use ARs, ARs hit better now, and they have aim-assist. The result is people die quicker even with armor plates getting a hp buff. If you die quickly even when fully tanked out (I was dropping heavies with a STD AR pretty quickly), then it may be an issue of the damage output getting too high with proper hit-detection + aim-assist.

Wasn't the 10% bonus to all weapon damage added after Uprising launched as a sort of "patch" over the fact combat was taking too long or some such (presumably hit detection issues, etc.)? Perhaps now would be a good time to take that off (while looking at other things) so people take longer to die.

I'd have to agree with you here, the general premise of Aim Assist is fine, some people need help and thats fine (lord knows I do some times)
But at the moment its far too much, dodging has seem to have become non exsistent for scouts, most noticible with AR's and lasers, though they're not nearly as insane as the AR.

You're right, it is a bit much. As a scout I'm used to being killed quick but now it's just out of control (a few heavies I know find themselves dying much faster as well). I'm not asking to get rid of it but instead to dial it back a bit. Currently there is no point in strafing as there aim never gets off you no matter how fast you're going.

I say bring it back by like half. If it turns out to be too much then bring it up a little at a time until you hit the sweet spot(it's all about balance).

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I tried the aim assist out with the DS3 on a few matches today. I have to say, it did exactly what it was supposed to do: assist with my aiming. Personally I found it very helpful.

There might, however, be a small problem with that.

You see, the last console I owned was the N64, and I haven't played it in like 5 years. That means apart from playing some shooter with my friends on an XBOX 360 from time to time, I have very little experience with controllers and console shooters in general.

So, my control option of choice for dust is KB/M. Not because of any inherent advantage over the DS3, but because I suck with it.

Badly.

Seriously, it's embarrassing. I am utterly TERRIBLE at using an analog stick to aim, something I'm sure would improve with practice, but I am reluctant to do since I can just use my mouse anyways.

Now, turning the aim assist on, and trying out the DS3, I found myself actually doing decently well. The problem I could see arising is that If I, a person who under normal circumstances plays terribly with a controller, can do decently well with the Aim Assist helping me out, what does that mean for those who are expert DS3 users? Could the aim assist then be TOO much, providing a greater advantage?

Again, I'm not whining about getting killed more often or anything like that, but my personal experience with the new aim assist had me asking this question. It did feel like quite a bit of help, which for me was great, but i could see being abused.

It's also good to note that, though i used the DS3, after a few deaths I always ended up going back to the mouse anyways.

You're right, it is a bit much. As a scout I'm used to being killed quick but now it's just out of control (a few heavies I know find themselves dying much faster as well). I'm not asking to get rid of it but instead to dial it back a bit. Currently there is no point in strafing as there aim never gets off you no matter how fast you're going.

I say bring it back by like half. If it turns out to be too much then bring it up a little at a time until you hit the sweet spot(it's all about balance).

Another scout, here.

I actually never liked strafing as a tactic in the first place. Somebody is shooting at you with a fully automatic weapon, so the immediate reaction is to ... zig-zag back and forth?

I, too, find myself frowning a little at how quickly I die if someone with an AR or scrambler catches me at their optimal range out in the open, but really that's about how it should be. Diving for cover seems like the rational reaction, here, and I'm actually quite glad to see that restored as the go-to option for not dying. My speed is still useful (I get under cover all the faster), but strafing 40 feet out no longer saves my bacon. (Strafing at 5-10 feet is still viable, I've noticed.)

The aim assist is insane. Anyone who thinks it "isn't doing much" isn't experimenting enough.

The #1 rule for the new aim assist: Don't ADS.

If you hipfire, the aim assist does a lot more, and the further away the enemy it is, the more powerful aim assist gets.

Try hipfiring a laser rifle at optimal range (medium-long), the game practically plays itself for you.

So the problem isn't really the aim assist or hit detection but rather the one or the other (or both) being too powerful when using hip fire? Could be, I ADS pretty much all the time, and I barely notice the aim assist. Hit detection, while better, seems fine too -- at least at range.

You're right, it is a bit much. As a scout I'm used to being killed quick but now it's just out of control (a few heavies I know find themselves dying much faster as well). I'm not asking to get rid of it but instead to dial it back a bit. Currently there is no point in strafing as there aim never gets off you no matter how fast you're going.

I say bring it back by like half. If it turns out to be too much then bring it up a little at a time until you hit the sweet spot(it's all about balance).

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Everyone is dying faster. Its not due to AA. Its the hit detection. Remember that 10% buff to all weapons back in Uprising 1.1 because hit detection was borked? That needs to go I think.

Basically, yes. I too normally ADS the large majority of my shots, but give hip-fire a try and you'll immediately see the problem. My squad last night had a good laugh about how ridiculous it is. It's now much easier to hit a target down range with hip-fire than by using ADS.

With ADS you get a bit of zoom, but almost no auto-aim. If you hip-fire, even at the "optimal range" of a laser rifle or TAC (medium-long) the auto-aim will snap to and track guys as they run and wiggle with 100% accuracy... as long as you let it and don't do any actual aiming yourself.