DUST Search - I think we broke Malcanis' Law.

Panther Alpha wrote:

Lurchasaurus wrote:

Panther Alpha wrote:

Lurchasaurus wrote:

Panther Alpha wrote:

I think CCP is failing to see the bigger picture, i have the same SP as every Protobear out there..but i only have one Proto gun that i never use. Instead i decided to go for a "bit" of everything, Avd heavy, Assault, Logi, Commando, Scout... and also Avd in several weapons too, plus i nearly maxed all my core skills. I have spend the some time, and done the same grind as everyone else, but i decided to play the game differently... so i should be punish for that ?

frankly, yes. it is not just dust or eve. ANY game that has leveling operates in this same way. either you specialize your points and reap the benefits or you dont and your a jack of all trades master of none. CCP or the community isnt punishing you, you simply chose to spread you stuff out, which comes with its own consequences.

Before the last Respec i was a Proto Caldari... and i got bore with it, so i decided to use a different approach; Core skills and multiple specializations.. The game allows me to think like that..it encourages me to think like that..A different way to play the game, is not necessarily the "wrong" way.

you are ABSOLUTELY right in that it isnt wrong. I can throw knives and kinetic catalyzers on a heavy or i can throw a duvolle on a proto assault, it is all my choice. This is the thing tho about Dust that is awesome. You get a choice. You made yours. It seems you are simply starting to regret it and are looking for someone to come in and tell you the choice you made was a good one.

If i can help here, i think you made a bit of a mistake. i would have told you to specialize and get proto first, then branch out either via aur weps or by simply getting lvl 1 in something as getting lvl 1 in anything is super cheap. I also branched out, but it is because i already maxed my main role. It is my benefit of my grind that i have endured.

Why my choice is not good ? Core Skills allows me to use every suit effectively, I can take a Logi role if my team needs that, or use my AV suit to destroy a tank... or jump into my heavy suit with my HMG and defend a position, or use my scout to quickly hack terminals and deploy up-links, i can even counter-snipe with my Sniper class...

You way of thinking is restricted...

What you going to do when you have maxed you Proto suit ? Leave the game ?


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Kaltos Darksbane Intara Direct Action Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.09.05 08:12:00 - [1] - Quote Aim assist/Aimbot needs to go. If you're new you're going to get owned, get over it. If you're good you'll do fine. If you're a top teir player or a longtime vet you have EARNED those proto suits and weapons that should be clearly the best stuff on the battlefield. But now we have new players who are able to compete with the vets, which just isn't right. Now I know with this update it will probably get higher new player retention but it still just feels wrong. This coming from a player with just over 5 mil SP. So by no means do I go around pub stomping.
Kaltos Darksbane Intara Direct Action Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.09.05 08:32:00 - [2] - Quote [quote=Aero Yassavi]Depends on your point of view. It makes the random blueberries better which benefits you since it's a team game, but it also means less pub stomps and some people actually dying in their proto suits. Personally I think it is still overall a bonus. My performance on the battlefield has remained very much unchanged, but the battles have been more fun. As a newer player who is starting to "get gud" I have looked forward to the day I get to the point where it is me pubstomping. Now I feel that feeling will be cheapened. Yes, I know this is my opinion but I wanted to have that feels that I'm a god on the battlefield one day. In my opinion proto suits should be severly hard to kill, it makes it worth it putting in the grind to get there. I turn my auto aim assist off so I have the dignity to say I did it all on my own. This is how I feel it should always be. Aim assist to me is a big crutch that makes too many newbs better than they really are. Again, just my opinion, feel free to disagree. I have been doing somewhat better since the update but I attribute that to the improved hit detection as I have the aim assist turned off. This improved hit detection is what has made it more fun for me.
Kaltos Darksbane Intara Direct Action Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.09.05 09:47:00 - [3] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I think CCP is failing to see the bigger picture, i have the same SP as every Protobear out there..but i only have one Proto gun that i never use. Instead i decided to go for a "bit" of everything, Avd heavy, Assault, Logi, Commando, Scout... and also Avd in several weapons too, plus i nearly maxed all my core skills. I have spend the some time, and done the same grind as everyone else, but i decided to play the game differently... so i should be punish for that ? frankly, yes. it is not just dust or eve. ANY game that has leveling operates in this same way. either you specialize your points and reap the benefits or you dont and your a jack of all trades master of none. CCP or the community isnt punishing you, you simply chose to spread you stuff out, which comes with its own consequences. Before the last Respec i was a Proto Caldari... and i got bore with it, so i decided to use a different approach; Core skills and multiple specializations.. The game allows me to think like that..it encourages me to think like that..A different way to play the game, is not necessarily the "wrong" way. you are ABSOLUTELY right in that it isnt wrong. I can throw knives and kinetic catalyzers on a heavy or i can throw a duvolle on a proto assault, it is all my choice. This is the thing tho about Dust that is awesome. You get a choice. You made yours. It seems you are simply starting to regret it and are looking for someone to come in and tell you the choice you made was a good one. If i can help here, i think you made a bit of a mistake. i would have told you to specialize and get proto first, then branch out either via aur weps or by simply getting lvl 1 in something as getting lvl 1 in anything is super cheap. I also branched out, but it is because i already maxed my main role. It is my benefit of my grind that i have endured. Why my choice is not good ? Core Skills allows me to use every suit effectively, I can take a Logi role if my team needs that, or use my AV suit to destroy a tank... or jump into my heavy suit with my HMG and defend a position, or use my scout to quickly hack terminals and deploy up-links, i can even counter-snipe with my Sniper class... You way of thinking is restricted... What you going to do when you have maxed you Proto suit ? Leave the game ? It seems to me you're looking for validation here. No one can give you that, only you can validate where your choices have led you in the game. Now you have to live with those choices. Cross specialization is all well and good but fully speccing into a certain role gives you a base to work off of, as Lurchasaurus said, then branch out.