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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
575
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:06:00 -
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Let's get the easy trolling out of the way, shall we?
xxForum Warrior69 wrote:"STFU fanboi" "Yeah it's the best it's been, but it's always been crap" "omg but tankzors" "omg but derpships" "omg but scouts" "omg but matchmaking" "omg but racial heavies"
Despite all that.
I honestly feel that all of the little things that went into this patch have finally pushed DUST over some invisible boundary into "really fun shooter territory." I'll try to break it down:
1) The new Gallente sockets/maps are a whole new class of fun. Playing on these things has been the first time that I've felt DUST has delivered on the frantic, back-and-forth action CCP shows in all the trailers and promo videos for the game. Every sniper's nest is defendable, but has multiple access points. Vehicles can penetrate the complexes and really wreak havok, but infantry has plenty of cover and passages to duck out of the line of fire. The enterances are defensible, but there are too many for a 16 man team to cover effectively.
It really, honestly, is the first time CCP has pulled off a true AAA shooter map, and I think it deserves all the love threads the maps have gotten for it and more. (This one included.) The caveat of this is that CCP set a high bar for themselves now, and they're going to have to deliver on more maps/sockets like this to keep it going.
2) Blue dots are useful. Red dots are lethal. Complain all you want about aimbot. It isn't nearly as strong as people make it out to be. But that fact that it exists and is noticeably useful means that games aren't dominated by 2-3 vet players and 15-16 useless lumps of cannon fodder anymore.
If bullets are coming your way now, you damn well pay attention. And sticking with your blue dots is good for more than using them as damage sponges. That makes the game more fun, at least in pubs. (sorry, but lol PC)
3) Radar changes made the game interesting. For the last few days, I've been able to play a role I haven't been able to do since Chromosome: Ninja Fatty. Even a fat heavy like me can sneak up on people now, which means flanking is a valid tactic again. I couldn't believe it until I started playing this patch, but the radar really did give you too much information previously.
Now the battle lines feel more fluid, and the action ranges over more parts of the map than the same usual defensible positions. Also, someone on your team having an Active Scanner is a huge asset right now, WP reward or not.
4) Things are shiny. Sure it's superficial. But one of the consistent criticisms DUST has received have been about the graphics. And the textures and new designs look spiffy now. I happen to be really impressed with the new matchmaking starmap as well. It's 100% cosmetic, but it helps with the immersion of feeling like DUST is part of the EVE universe, even though in the back of my head I know is and likely will stay a lobby shooter.
There were a lot of nice little touches this time around. Good stuff, CCP.
5) CCP is actually fixing stuff. I noticed this after the 1.2 release, and they're at it again. Even though day 1 after a patch is buggy as a warm turd in a fly farm, CCP fixes the slop incredibly fast by console standards. Contrast them against, say, Bethesda and PS3 Skyrim fixes/updates, and they look like saints. This is the one thing that I will consistently and uncynically give them credit for.
Now, be good little forum goers and start ripping this apart point by point. I, for one, and going to put my grizzled vet hat back on and continue making snide barbs about how racial Heavy and Scout suits aren't in game yet. I just had to get these positive feelings off my chest, first. |
![Adelia Lafayette Adelia Lafayette](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Adelia Lafayette
DUST University Ivy League
222
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:12:00 -
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Well said. I'd like the gallente heavy along with its racial heavy weapon and side arm and also a fixed dropship camera but once I learn the ins and outs of the patch I have a good feeling about it. |
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
2177
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:17:00 -
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I'm a bitter jaded ass as well, but I have to disagree with you. With hip-fire being tighter, everyone gets in close to spray and pray in your face(excluding the praying part, because you know 100% that all your bullets will hit) so now this game plays more like CoD than anything else, and if I wanted to play CoD, I would go play ****ing CoD, not Dust.
Do you see my problem? |
![Seymor Krelborn Seymor Krelborn](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
722
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:18:00 -
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I agree....omg but matchmaking![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
![Adelia Lafayette Adelia Lafayette](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Adelia Lafayette
DUST University Ivy League
223
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:19:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I'm a bitter jaded ass as well, but I have to disagree with you. With hip-fire being tighter, everyone gets in close to spray and pray in your face(excluding the praying part, because you know 100% that all your bullets will hit) so now this game plays more like CoD than anything else, and if I wanted to play CoD, I would go play ****ing CoD, not Dust.
Do you see my problem?
take advantage of that knowledge and use it against them then. Use a glu. have a teammate set up to flank them. Give them a cooked grenade everybody loves nade cupcakes. |
![TheAmazing FlyingPig TheAmazing FlyingPig](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3090
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:21:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote: Do you see my problem?
Yea. You're not hanging back with a LR. Join the LR master race. |
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![CCP LogicLoop CCP LogicLoop](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
CCP LogicLoop
C C P C C P Alliance
706
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:22:00 -
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=) |
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
793
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:24:00 -
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Another thread that makes me want to play now.
Damn you six paragraph essays! |
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Blaze Ashra
O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M.
17
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:27:00 -
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Well said and I agree. |
![Zekain K Zekain K](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
347
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:39:00 -
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Stop smiling on the forums, and get back to work. You have **** to fix. |
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
591
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:46:00 -
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Adelia Lafayette wrote: take advantage of that knowledge and use it against them then. Use a glu. have a teammate set up to flank them. Give them a cooked grenade everybody loves nade cupcakes.
This right here. I'll agree that once combat starts, it ends pretty predictably. But your tools for starting an engagement to your advantage are much greater now.
Flanking is soooooooooooo much fun again. Once you get used to it, the game is less run-and-gun now, and more think-then-pwn. |
![Chris F2112 Chris F2112](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Chris F2112
High-Damage
402
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:47:00 -
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I agree completely. The game today is much better than it was just a couple of days ago. The fact that everyone now has a decent chance to deal damage with the new aim assist really helps make the matches more competitive even when facing worse players. While many vets don't like this (now they are losing money running proto in pubs), it is much better for the game when everyone has a chance to get kills.
Once they fix the matchmaking completely I'll be completely on board with this patch. And yes, the maps are outstanding. |
![Miokai Zahou Miokai Zahou](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Miokai Zahou
Film Actors Guilds
29
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:48:00 -
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i like this patch besides the matchmaking, it's really nice! I don't care what people say about the aiming at all really! My proto MD still collects a huge body count for the reaper to sort out still. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Also has anyone else noticed the the Advance Assault suit colours (while in game) will be black mostly black with an outline of white on certain spots? |
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CCP LogicLoop
C C P C C P Alliance
712
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:55:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Stop smiling on the forums, and get back to work. You have **** to fix.
My stuff is fixed. Please bear with us until they are patched in. Thanks for playing. =) |
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Chris F2112
High-Damage
403
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:58:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Zekain K wrote:Stop smiling on the forums, and get back to work. You have **** to fix. My stuff is fixed. Please bear with us until they are patched in. Thanks for playing. =)
Then you should be doing something else for us. Don't think your work is done just cause of one good patch.
The FPS crowd is definitely a what-have-you-done-lately sort of crowd. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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CCP LogicLoop
C C P C C P Alliance
717
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:02:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:CCP LogicLoop wrote:Zekain K wrote:Stop smiling on the forums, and get back to work. You have **** to fix. My stuff is fixed. Please bear with us until they are patched in. Thanks for playing. =) Then you should be doing something else for us. Don't think your work is done just cause of one good patch. The FPS crowd is definitely a what-have-you-done-lately sort of crowd. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Aside from entertaining our community with answers to questions, responding to feedback and bug reports, I am working as well within maps. Have no fear. Sockets are being made. |
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Chris F2112
High-Damage
404
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:06:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Aside from entertaining our community with answers to questions, responding to feedback and bug reports, I am working as well within maps. Have no fear. Sockets are being made.
If they are all as good as the new ones, I'm really looking forward to it. |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
801
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:11:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:CCP LogicLoop wrote:Zekain K wrote:Stop smiling on the forums, and get back to work. You have **** to fix. My stuff is fixed. Please bear with us until they are patched in. Thanks for playing. =) Then you should be doing something else for us. Don't think your work is done just cause of one good patch. The FPS crowd is definitely a what-have-you-done-lately sort of crowd. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) Aside from entertaining our community with answers to questions, responding to feedback and bug reports, I am working as well within maps. Have no fear. Sockets are being made.
Aw yea! Nice! |
![Viktor Hadah Jr Viktor Hadah Jr](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
21
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:12:00 -
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1.4 looked amazing on paper. Their were some bugs on day one but nothing to get all butt mad over as it is obvious stuff that would get fixed, but all the fixes they brought with 1.4 did make me happy. Dust is heading in the right direction imo. |
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:14:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:1.4 looked amazing on paper. Their were some bugs on day one but nothing to get all butt mad over as it is obvious stuff that would get fixed, but all the fixes they brought with 1.4 did make me happy. Dust is heading in the right direction imo. Yup, heading straight into the ground. |
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
310
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:15:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Let's get the easy trolling out of the way, shall we? xxForum Warrior69 wrote:"STFU fanboi" "Yeah it's the best it's been, but it's always been crap" "omg but tankzors" "omg but derpships" "omg but scouts" "omg but matchmaking" "omg but racial heavies" Despite all that. I honestly feel that all of the little things that went into this patch have finally pushed DUST over some invisible boundary into "really fun shooter territory." I'll try to break it down: 1) The new Gallente sockets/maps are a whole new class of fun.Playing on these things has been the first time that I've felt DUST has delivered on the frantic, back-and-forth action CCP shows in all the trailers and promo videos for the game. Every sniper's nest is defendable, but has multiple access points. Vehicles can penetrate the complexes and really wreak havok, but infantry has plenty of cover and passages to duck out of the line of fire. The enterances are defensible, but there are too many for a 16 man team to cover effectively. It really, honestly, is the first time CCP has pulled off a true AAA shooter map, and I think it deserves all the love threads the maps have gotten for it and more. (This one included.) The caveat of this is that CCP set a high bar for themselves now, and they're going to have to deliver on more maps/sockets like this to keep it going. 2) Blue dots are useful. Red dots are lethal.Complain all you want about aimbot. It isn't nearly as strong as people make it out to be. But that fact that it exists and is noticeably useful means that games aren't dominated by 2-3 vet players and 15-16 useless lumps of cannon fodder anymore. If bullets are coming your way now, you damn well pay attention. And sticking with your blue dots is good for more than using them as damage sponges. That makes the game more fun, at least in pubs. (sorry, but lol PC) 3) Radar changes made the game interesting.For the last few days, I've been able to play a role I haven't been able to do since Chromosome: Ninja Fatty. Even a fat heavy like me can sneak up on people now, which means flanking is a valid tactic again. I couldn't believe it until I started playing this patch, but the radar really did give you too much information previously. Now the battle lines feel more fluid, and the action ranges over more parts of the map than the same usual defensible positions. Also, someone on your team having an Active Scanner is a huge asset right now, WP reward or not. 4) Things are shiny.Sure it's superficial. But one of the consistent criticisms DUST has received have been about the graphics. And the textures and new designs look spiffy now. I happen to be really impressed with the new matchmaking starmap as well. It's 100% cosmetic, but it helps with the immersion of feeling like DUST is part of the EVE universe, even though in the back of my head I know is and likely will stay a lobby shooter. There were a lot of nice little touches this time around. Good stuff, CCP. 5) CCP is actually fixing stuff.I noticed this after the 1.2 release, and they're at it again. Even though day 1 after a patch is buggy as a warm turd in a fly farm, CCP fixes the slop incredibly fast by console standards. Contrast them against, say, Bethesda and PS3 Skyrim fixes/updates, and they look like saints. This is the one thing that I will consistently and uncynically give them credit for. Now, be good little forum goers and start ripping this apart point by point. I, for one, and going to put my grizzled vet hat back on and continue making snide barbs about how racial Heavy and Scout suits aren't in game yet. I just had to get these positive feelings off my chest, first.
THIS^^^^^ |
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The Robot Devil
Echo Galactic Industries
905
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:15:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Logi Bro wrote: Do you see my problem?
Yea. You're not hanging back with a LR. Join the LR master race.
I think you may be my evil twin. Sometimes your posts are almost verbatim to what I am thinking. |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
803
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:19:00 -
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I want to know what that structure is (it appears to be a gate though that has been denounced)...I need to do a screenshot of it. It's looks real cool. I got killed just staring at that thing. |
![Meeko Fent Meeko Fent](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
799
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:29:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:1.4 looked amazing on paper. Their were some bugs on day one but nothing to get all butt mad over as it is obvious stuff that would get fixed, but all the fixes they brought with 1.4 did make me happy. Dust is heading in the right direction imo. Yep.
Don't you know anything about any game?
NEVER play on patch day.
No matter how much QA testing, there will still be some bugs, and those are usually fixed in 2-3 Days. |
![Chris F2112 Chris F2112](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Chris F2112
High-Damage
416
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:41:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:1.4 looked amazing on paper. Their were some bugs on day one but nothing to get all butt mad over as it is obvious stuff that would get fixed, but all the fixes they brought with 1.4 did make me happy. Dust is heading in the right direction imo. Yep. Don't you know anything about any game? NEVER play on patch day. No matter how much QA testing, there will still be some bugs, and those are usually fixed in 2-3 Days.
I'm probably going to take this advice next time. Dust was unplayable yesterday, and just one day later I'm liking it more than ever. |
![Meeko Fent Meeko Fent](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
800
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:59:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:1.4 looked amazing on paper. Their were some bugs on day one but nothing to get all butt mad over as it is obvious stuff that would get fixed, but all the fixes they brought with 1.4 did make me happy. Dust is heading in the right direction imo. Yep. Don't you know anything about any game? NEVER play on patch day. No matter how much QA testing, there will still be some bugs, and those are usually fixed in 2-3 Days. I'm probably going to take this advice next time. Dust was unplayable yesterday, and just one day later I'm liking it more than ever. Yep.
Us beta pros know better then anyone. |
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1639
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:04:00 -
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Yep. CCP deserves some love for 1.4 - they worked hard and it shows. Some minor kinks aside this is the best patch to date and has probably renewed the faith of many players.
Flux all the naysayers. I can't wait for ps2 and GTA v so you all p!ss off. |
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Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
328
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Posted - 2013.09.05 05:00:00 -
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I think CCP pulled off an awesome patch (despite the terrible matchmaking, which was fixed relatively fast, so I can say this point is negligible), and my only complaint is the new maps tend to be too big for 16v16, but they are still fun and it's something new to the table until vehicles get into play in 1.5, and then by that time, we might be able to see some added utility to Dropships on large maps (my logi vehicle alt is happy).
That said, I think 1.4 is the concrete paving on the ground to establish some foundation in order to build upon. ![Idea](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_idea.png) |
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First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
935
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Posted - 2013.09.05 05:47:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Logi Bro wrote: Do you see my problem?
Yea. You're not hanging back with a LR. Join the LR master race. I think you may be my evil twin. Sometimes your posts are almost verbatim to what I am thinking. I think you might be his evil twin. Since y'know. You're the devil. |
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Hawkings Greenback
Red Star. EoN.
74
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:10:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:1.4 looked amazing on paper. Their were some bugs on day one but nothing to get all butt mad over as it is obvious stuff that would get fixed, but all the fixes they brought with 1.4 did make me happy. Dust is heading in the right direction imo. Yep. Don't you know anything about any game? NEVER play on patch day. No matter how much QA testing, there will still be some bugs, and those are usually fixed in 2-3 Days.
Log on. Check. Collect free SP. Check. Say hi. Check. Log off. Check.
Rinse and repeat for all characters. Waits for hotfixes.
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