Double Standard.

Infantry need a supply depot. If tanks needed one, I'd be fine with losing the kill. Or if we had timers on suit swaps, I'd be fine with that too.

Furthermore, you still get a kill when you someone 'hot swaps', and your weapons aren't suddenly useless.

Sidearm vs Duvolle AR. Guess which wins every time.

On the far side of the tank, which you cannot shoot under. Furthermore you can move while recalling, similar to hacking. Also, having a Duvolle does not preclude one having a tank. Only idiotic purists would believe such claptrap.

Mine do Quadruple ... since we're just making up arbitrary multipliers !

So you've had someone disappear into the ether while shooting at them I take it?

We are not asking for a big nerf Lurchyboy, we are asking that the recall feature be used as a RECALL FEATURE, not as a get-out-of-screwup-free button. If a tank gets close enough that you can throw packed AV nades at it, it deserves to die, not flick on hardeners (which work while the tank is unmanned, the hell?) and just blow up the tank yourself, but in a way that magically allows you to keep it. The Recall should have a Bolas show up and recall the tank. It should be used to pull the tank back when you no longer need it, not as a bloody TRIAGE SYSTEM.

I would agree with that. I would also agree with being able to still damage the cloaked vehicle, as if it's just cloaked it should still be there to take damage. EVE ships that are cloaked can still be hurt by omnidirectional attacks like bombs or smartbombs, only targeted turrets cannot hit them. My last 'nade would have killed it if that were the case, so I would accept such as a reasonable recall system. Nomatter how you slice it though, the current recall just makes the vehicle dissolve with an audio clip.

i have sp just to get best mods. i looked into maxing them and the bonus wasn't good enough. i would have prefered to have some infantry skills in case they screw everything up. although i am working on maxing my tank skills now that i have no more infantry skills to get. only need 2 mil sp. :D. well until they release pilot suits. XD

I assume that I can kill an unmanned HAV, yes. Does that make me deluded? That a vehicle with noone in it should die? You are crying foul that the glass cannon paper to the beefy HAVrock cannot kill an unmanned tank. You are bloody AMAZING Lurch.

A tad explicit don't you think? So should we ignore the melee glitch because meleeing as a combat style is weak anyway? Should CCP have ignored the Shotgun bugs they say they're patching tomorrow because the shotty OHKs when it feels like working? Incongruities, whether due to bugs or bad design choices, should not be overlooked. I agree that the small turrets need work, but you need to get the rest of the turret types before we can really say if they are underpowered. The only turrets are the tiny range high DPS and the longass range tiny DPS. And Missiles, which are just kinda there. These are all seperate issues that are only tangentially related to my point. In your blind rush to defend everything Vehicular, you forget to ask yourself 'what does this look like to the other guy?' or 'what if instead of looking at this, they look at the infantry?' What if they decide to give infantry the right to just swap suits whenever because you were so adament about protecting this broken feature?
I don't want recalls gone. I don't want your tank nerfed, in fact I recently fought for them to receive a buff, you were even in that thread. I just want the recall feature to be a recall. If you want cloaking modules, ask CCP for cloaking. If you want Triage mode, prod them for Triage mode. But we NEED the recall feature to be looked at. What if, when Siege Mode and Triage Mode come out we have the same recall system? They will NEVER DIE. People will just flip on their module for the enhanced resistances inherent in the mode, flip on a Hardener for good measure, and recall. You NEED to pick your battles and look at this objectively. It makes no sense for them to just 'poof.'

Considering how bad RDVs are at delivering the vehicles, picking them up would be a bad choice.

hard-working AV players .

Just for the record, guys, if you shoot the person doing the recall, that interrupts it and he has to start again.

If you let a tank run away far enough that the driver can get out and recall it while you're shooting, and you don't have time to either kill the tank OR line up some way of hitting the driver, he outplayed you. A properly-aimed close-range swarm volley could hit someone on the opposite side if you're as close as you say you were.

Double the DPS?

Have you used swarms this build?

2x the ROF, 52% DPS buff bro.

Im actually with Dark souls dude here.

Am an AV player. people have tried to do this vs me, i just change weapon and shoot them with my SMG, no problem.... then hack their tank if it has at least 1/4 HP....OR blow it up if its REALLY f*** up...XD

Which one, red spiky one, really useful new game tail sword if you can use a bow?

Yeah he can s** it...

I could only kill him once.... : /

when you damage a vehicle while its being recalled, if you make it catch fire, the recall stops until either it blows upor the pilot repairs it. its a double standard, infantry think they are entitled to everything that gives them an unfair advantage over everything else and they don't believe anyone else deserves to be on equal grounds to them